Never underestimate the ability of political junkies to trumpet polls no matter how significant they may — or may not — be but the poll at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference will likely be perceived as significant since it likely reflects GOP undercurrents, the impact of appearances by some candidates, a candidate who won even though he didn’t appear – -and it can probably help some candidates raise money.
And the poll results? The two biggest vote getters were former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Rep. Ron Paul — who lost to Romney by one vote. Here are the results:
If the primary election for president were held today, for whom would you vote? Please check the box by the candidate of your choice.
Newt Gingrich 18%
Mike Huckabee 4%
Gary Johnson 1%
Sarah Palin 18%
Ron Paul 24% (438 votes)
Tim Pawlenty 3%
Mike Pence 3%
Mitt Romney 24% (439 votes)
Rick Santorum 2%
Gingrich and Sara Pahlin come in first place in another question about second choices.
What can you draw from this? Straw polls are often so much piffle, but that never stopped analysts (including yours truly) from trying to discern some significance before:
And, indeed, Paul made it clear that he’s not going to use lockstep rip-n-read from
the RNC Rush/Glenn/andSean: you can hear the mutterings “He must be a RINO!” now over THIS:
Republicans and tea party activists are fond of accusing President Barack Obama of being a socialist, but today party gadfly Ron Paul said they had it wrong.
“In the technical sense, in the economic definition, he is not a socialist,” the Texas Republican said to a smattering of applause at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference.
“He’s a corporatist,” Paul quickly added, meaning the president takes “care of corporations and corporations take over and run the country.”
And you can hear the mutterings: “Corporatist shmorporatist, he’s still a socialist!”
This kind of poll ain’t Gallup or Rasmussen. But it is one that will be noticed — likely touted by the frontrunners in public and dismissed as truly meaningless by those who didn’t get many votes (who would be touting it loudly if they were in first place).
Like most polls it’s a snapshot — and of an even smaller area than most polls that are also snapshots.
But it means at the very least that the media won’t be ignoring Paul and Romney, even though Gingrich and Palin are much more fun to cover due to their often over-the-top talk show political culture rhetoric which is juicy, taste-bud sparking red meat to the party’s base.
HERE’S A CROSS SECTION OF NEW AND OLD MEDIA OPINION:
—Talking Points Memo:
The straw poll result extends the rivalry between Romney and Paul supporters at these early GOP events. According to reports on the ground in New Orleans, both candidates had groups at SRLC actively campaigning for votes.
In the last straw poll matchup — at CPAC in February — Paul won with 31% of the vote. Romney came in a distant second with 24%.
….The SRLC poll is also notable because, unlike CPAC, it was a test for Sarah Palin. Some Palin supporters chalked up her poor result in the CPAC poll (she got just seven percent of the vote) to the fact that she skipped the annual conservative jamboree. Palin gave a rousing and widely-viewed speech at SRLC on Friday, and came in third in the straw poll with 18% of the vote, just a seven votes ahead of the fourth-place finisher, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
Mitt Romney didn’t even speak at this Conference — he was on a book tour. Has the Romney machine coopted the Paulian poll spamming technique?
—The Gun Toting Liberal basically says I told you so about Obama not being a socialist. And, in a post that should be read in full, explains:
Again, our so-called “socialist” president is following in the footsteps of his Republican, “big bidness” predecessors. The economy (based largely upon the Military Industrial Complex economic model our leaders favor) is on the grow according to Business Insider. Well, aside from the military, where are the damned jobs? Oh, that’s right — it takes a “minute” for those to follow a boom, right? President Barack Hussein Obama, the Neocon and the Oligarch (I’m surprised G.O.P.’ers don’t just LOVE this guy?), is carrying the torch of the Authoritarians well — the American Middle Class has just about been completely eradicated after 9.5 straight years of this brand of politics.
The poll, meant to take the pulse of Southern GOP activists, has little meaning, but Romney — who did not even attend the event — will surely use it to tout his credentials. He was even able to defeat Texas Rep. Ron Paul, who won the straw poll at the Conservative Political Action Conference in February and pushed his supporters to attend this event.
Romney, as David Weigel reported, received some help from Nancy French’s Evangelicals for Mitt, who offered “around 200 tickets for free, for anyone who wants to come and support Mitt Romney.”
Tennessee Sen. Bill Frist won the straw poll at the 2006 SRLC in Memphis, where he bused supporters in to boost his vote total. However, Frist did not end up running for president. John McCain, the frontrunner at the time, threw off the credibility of the results that year by encouraging his supporters to vote for George W. Bush.
:For Romney, the win basically solidifies the conventional wisdom that he’s the early front-runner for the nomination. Pawlenty, the only other potential candidate who’s actually building an organization, only got 3 percent of the vote here. Gingrich may or may not be running, and as for Palin? Her plans are a mystery, perhaps even to herself.
Romney’s team did not view the event as important enough to show up, and Pawlenty sent a video in lieu of making his own appearance.
That stands in stark contrast to ’06, when the event attracted every major contender considering a WH’08 bid showed up. That year, Sen. Bill Frist (R-TN) won the straw poll, which was held in his home state; Romney finished second, followed by then-Sen. George Allen (R-VA). Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), the eventual nominee, finished fifth after urging his backers to write in George W. Bush.
Romney wasn’t the only candidate to benefit from an organized effort to stuff the ballot box. Paul’s supporters, organized under the umbrella of the Campaign for Liberty, ran an overt campaign to help him both in New Orleans and in DC earlier this year, when he won the Conservative Political Action Conference. SarahPAC, Palin’s political arm, handed out caribou jerky, while supporters carried home-made placards.
Mitt Romney won the straw poll at the Southern Republican Leadership conference here Saturday in a victory that will be taken as a sign of the former Massachusetts governor’s strength as a 2012 presidential candidate.
That’s because the 2008 GOP presidential hopeful elected to skip the conference to continue his book tour.
Palin has little organizational infrastructure and did apparently nothing to win the contest while Romney enthusiasts were out in force.
Still, that Romney would win the poll at an event he didn’t show up for while Palin would come in tied for third place a day after she packed a room full of adoring fans suggests the sort of hyper-engaged activists who show up at such gatherings are practical-minded in their preferences for the next presidential campaign.
More than anything, though, the contest seemed to affirm the Republican Party’s all-consuming focus on the coming midterm elections and the declining relevance of presidential straw polls.
When Ron Paul annihilated ole Mitt “Sideburns” Romney at the CPAC straw poll back in February the coverage at many mainstream news outlets dismissed the result. Today when Mitt Romney won the Southern Republican Leadership Conference straw poll by a single vote over Ron Paul the coverage was a bit different…
Even the prospects of Ron Paul becoming a presidential candidate pushes the media to marginalize him. Just looking at the headlines for these two articles suggests bias. The Paul-CPAC win article is titled, “Ron Paul Wins Early Conservative Poll“. The Romney-SRLC win article is titled, “Mitt Romney Wins GOP Presidential Straw Poll“. So Paul’s win was just an early conservative poll, but Romney’s was a GOP Presidential poll? Am I just being a crazy biased Paulite here or are these reports representative of real media bias against Paul?
Formerly “nominal Republican frontrunner” Mitt Romney can drop nominal from the title.
At a gathering headlined by GOP superstars Sarah Palin, Ron Paul, and Newt Gingrich, it was Romney who took the crown jewel of the Southern Republican Leadership Conference, and he didn’t even bother showing up. He took the victory by single vote over Ron Paul, 439 to 438. Paul had a strong presence of vocal activists at the conference, but it was clear from the voting rank-and-file that his stances of nonintervention and opposition to free-trade agreements were not in line with the party as a whole.
Some Ron Paul supporters were not going to take the narrow loss lying down, threatening to sue over unspecified voting irregularities. (Lawyers shouldn’t bother clearing their schedules.) Though Romney was too busy for the conference, his acolytes, Evangelicals for Mitt, worked the crowds this weekend, handing out plastic piggy banks and shaking hands. “I was astonished by how much warmth we felt from people,” says Evangelicals for Romney representative Nancy French.
Romney, who also did not attend the conference, benefited from a grassroots effort from Evangelicals for Mitt, a group run by David and Nancy French — who’d helped Romney score a second-place finish at the 2006 SRLC. They’d purchased around 200 tickets, 800 copies of Romney’s book “No Apology,” and 2000 piggy banks with the Evangelicals for Mitt logo. Before the vote, French soft-peddled the meaning of the exercise, stressing that it was “not binding.” After the vote, French held court near the press boxes as his small team hugged and high-fived.
“Is that not incredible?” French said into a cell phone. “Our guy wasn’t even here!”
When I spoke to French, he stuck by his “not binding” comment, then basked in his victory. “We just wanted to show that Mitt has friends down here.”
Paul’s fans were crushed. “That’s not legit!” one fan yelled when the votes were announced. The small group, waving signs, informed reporters of their worries about vote integrity before heading to a nearby bar for a rally with Paul. The congressman’s 401(c)4, the Campaign for Liberty, snagged around 600 tickets, but had some trouble getting supporters to show up.
Palin’s 18 percent, a mild surprise, jibed with an argument made by many SRLC attendees that the former governor of Alaska wasn’t ready for the presidency.
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