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Posted by JAZZ SHAW, Assistant Editor in At TMV. Jan 11th, 2010 | 20 responses
Covered at Hot Air. Begging the question, of course, does this preclude a 2012 presidential run? I guess so. I mean, we know she’d never walk out on a job with time left on the commitment.
At first I thought, we (Reps) got rid of her (Murdoch pays her a lot and she stays a pundit). Reading the article awakened me to the possibility that this might accelerate her quest for the WH. What's a moderate Rep to do?
I'm happy for her for getting a spot on a news station, but how is this a precursor to a political run in 2012? She quit her job as governor of Alaska after 2.5 years in office. Dems will flay her with that. And after the sobering realization that presidents are human (ie Obama), I have serious doubts anyone will vote for anybody with such a radical following (if you want examples, check out Hot Air and Don Surber. Politically, I agree with many of her issues, but her fans think she walks on water)
If she's got the goods, this is a brilliant move by her. By providing commentary on current issues she will be seen to have the intelligence and insight to offer valuable perspective.
OR, if she doesn't have the goods, she will be in violation of the First Rule of Holes and talk her way into irrelevance to her supporters.
It should be interesting. You can be certain she will draw a large national audience and a veritable army corps of 'fact checkers' who will dissect her every word at msnbc, AP, Reuters etc. I can't wait for that first big “Palin says good morning but it is afternoon” blockbuster expose!
Yes of course some can choose to end their sworn government service when the going gets tough, or, there is money to made. Money to be made. Money to be made.
Fox news will undoubtedly introduce her as; just back from the Russian front. I can see that flag lapel pin now.
You know, DaMav, from one perspective I agree with you, but on another I see a serious flaw in the plan. From a personal angle, I think that Palin deserves the same shot as anyone else to make money and profit from her work. Much like her book, if she can land a nice contract and do some TV work and get paid for it ( possibly expanding her fan base and paving the way for follow-up books or different TV shows) then I think she's entitled and should go for it.
But when we look at it in terms of future electoral viability, it just looks like a lose-lose. I have, in the past, asked some of the top political bloggers about jokes we often here when their fans ask if they will ever run for office themselves. The answer is uniformly “no.” The reason is simple. If you spend enough time blogging, or writing a column or hosting a radio or TV show, you open a door for your enemies. On the one hand, as you point out, if she truly is closer to the caricature portrayed by Saturday Night Live, that will quickly become obvious and her potential in a real electoral shootout is kaput.
On the other hand, let's say she really is the hidden genius that her adoring fans believe she is. No matter how good you are, when you have a certain amount of air time to fill every day or column inches to fill every week, the time comes when you slip up and say/write something which is ill considered and open to ridicule. The longer you do it, the more of those moments you rack up. And your opponents just build them all up into a loop to play endlessly when you run for office. Harold Ford jr. is already running into some of that just for suggesting that he *might* run against Kirsten Gillibrand in a Dem Senate primary in New York. He spent too long as an MSNBC analyst and was on TV almost every day getting pressed for opinions on everything under the sun. Palin seemed fairly gaffe prone on the best of days, and a regular gig on Fox just sounds to me like she's setting herself up to write every opponent advertisement against her from here on out.
Ayn Rand would have loved Palin. Except for maybe the icky God stuff. But still, what vision and adherence to the almighty dollar! Because that should be the only thing that motivates future presidents.
My bold prediction: Palin will string people along about a 2012 run long enough for them to empty their wallets…then the campaign chest will “mysteriously” be empty by the time primary season rolls around.
She's risking burnout — probably just moving to harvest all the wealth and fame she can while it lasts. Fox stands to do well in the short term (look at what the enemies of Fox or Palin do for them — heh), but if it's a really long-term deal or a long-term risk (like another party took with Limbaugh and his radio show), it's a big risk. Many may not see it as a risky bet right now, but I think it could be one, eventually.
Most poor presidential candidates make their big money after they leave the WH, she is going to make it before. And, she has all her options open at this point. Brilliant.
Fox will have to hire someone to interpret her meandering comments spoken in hieroglyphic English by run-on sentence, before the public can understand her message. May I suggest a prolific poet by the name of William Shatner?
You raise a good point, and it's a reason I'm glad she is not getting her own show at this point. The amount of content, with every word subjected to a hostile fine tooth comb, would make it almost certain that she would get tripped up on something, eventually.
However as a commentator, she is in a far better situation to come in and offer the kind of pieces she is doing right now on her Face Book. While these have at times caused howls of outrage by her detractors (i.e. 'death panels'), they have also been explosively effective politically. With a couple of paragraphs last July/August, she derailed the entire game plan to sell ObamaCare over the Congressional recess.
Ultimately she will make or break herself with this assignment. Your observation is on the money; we'll just have to see how it plays out.
<blockqutoe>If you spend enough time blogging, or writing a column or hosting a radio or TV show, you open a door for your enemiesTell that to Al Franken and my own representative Mike Pence, both of whom had their own shows prior to getting elected, not to mention Jillmz. It's not necessarily the best way into politics, but a few can make it work.
I personally don't think she can win in 2012. Yes, she has a following. Yes, she has pretty solid conservative roots. A true outsider (actually 535 of them) would do Washington some good, no doubt. However, even though many Americans can identify with her, they probably won't want her to run the nation. There's just too many shortcomings in the qualifications department. Of course, lack of experience didn't stop Barack Obama, who had a eerily similar rock star following. Who knows? I could be wrong.
I'd personally like to see Huckabee give it a shot. For a republican, he's actually got fresh ideas and has stepped away from the corporatist roots of the typical republican candidate.
Unscripted, unrestrained Sarah Palin? Oh. My. Goodness”
Some may think she is less than smart, but Fox isn't. She will be scripted, or at least well prepared, for a while. Fox wants to protect their investment and their reputation. And, I hope the Reps have some of their brains left, and support someone else at least in 2012.
At first I thought, we (Reps) got rid of her (Murdoch pays her a lot and she stays a pundit). Reading the article awakened me to the possibility that this might accelerate her quest for the WH. What's a moderate Rep to do?
Ann Coulter just got backburner.
I'm happy for her for getting a spot on a news station, but how is this a precursor to a political run in 2012? She quit her job as governor of Alaska after 2.5 years in office. Dems will flay her with that. And after the sobering realization that presidents are human (ie Obama), I have serious doubts anyone will vote for anybody with such a radical following (if you want examples, check out Hot Air and Don Surber. Politically, I agree with many of her issues, but her fans think she walks on water)
Entertaining liberal meltdown now appearing via Memeorandum as lead article
http://www.memeorandum.com/
If she's got the goods, this is a brilliant move by her. By providing commentary on current issues she will be seen to have the intelligence and insight to offer valuable perspective.
OR, if she doesn't have the goods, she will be in violation of the First Rule of Holes and talk her way into irrelevance to her supporters.
It should be interesting. You can be certain she will draw a large national audience and a veritable army corps of 'fact checkers' who will dissect her every word at msnbc, AP, Reuters etc. I can't wait for that first big “Palin says good morning but it is afternoon” blockbuster expose!
Yes of course some can choose to end their sworn government service when the going gets tough, or, there is money to made. Money to be made. Money to be made.
Fox news will undoubtedly introduce her as; just back from the Russian front. I can see that flag lapel pin now.
You know, DaMav, from one perspective I agree with you, but on another I see a serious flaw in the plan. From a personal angle, I think that Palin deserves the same shot as anyone else to make money and profit from her work. Much like her book, if she can land a nice contract and do some TV work and get paid for it ( possibly expanding her fan base and paving the way for follow-up books or different TV shows) then I think she's entitled and should go for it.
But when we look at it in terms of future electoral viability, it just looks like a lose-lose. I have, in the past, asked some of the top political bloggers about jokes we often here when their fans ask if they will ever run for office themselves. The answer is uniformly “no.” The reason is simple. If you spend enough time blogging, or writing a column or hosting a radio or TV show, you open a door for your enemies. On the one hand, as you point out, if she truly is closer to the caricature portrayed by Saturday Night Live, that will quickly become obvious and her potential in a real electoral shootout is kaput.
On the other hand, let's say she really is the hidden genius that her adoring fans believe she is. No matter how good you are, when you have a certain amount of air time to fill every day or column inches to fill every week, the time comes when you slip up and say/write something which is ill considered and open to ridicule. The longer you do it, the more of those moments you rack up. And your opponents just build them all up into a loop to play endlessly when you run for office. Harold Ford jr. is already running into some of that just for suggesting that he *might* run against Kirsten Gillibrand in a Dem Senate primary in New York. He spent too long as an MSNBC analyst and was on TV almost every day getting pressed for opinions on everything under the sun. Palin seemed fairly gaffe prone on the best of days, and a regular gig on Fox just sounds to me like she's setting herself up to write every opponent advertisement against her from here on out.
Ayn Rand would have loved Palin. Except for maybe the icky God stuff. But still, what vision and adherence to the almighty dollar! Because that should be the only thing that motivates future presidents.
My bold prediction: Palin will string people along about a 2012 run long enough for them to empty their wallets…then the campaign chest will “mysteriously” be empty by the time primary season rolls around.
Will she substitute when the host of Huckabee is absent?
She's risking burnout — probably just moving to harvest all the wealth and fame she can while it lasts. Fox stands to do well in the short term (look at what the enemies of Fox or Palin do for them — heh), but if it's a really long-term deal or a long-term risk (like another party took with Limbaugh and his radio show), it's a big risk. Many may not see it as a risky bet right now, but I think it could be one, eventually.
Most poor presidential candidates make their big money after they leave the WH, she is going to make it before.
And, she has all her options open at this point. Brilliant.
Fox will have to hire someone to interpret her meandering comments spoken in hieroglyphic English by run-on sentence, before the public can understand her message. May I suggest a prolific poet by the name of William Shatner?
You raise a good point, and it's a reason I'm glad she is not getting her own show at this point. The amount of content, with every word subjected to a hostile fine tooth comb, would make it almost certain that she would get tripped up on something, eventually.
However as a commentator, she is in a far better situation to come in and offer the kind of pieces she is doing right now on her Face Book. While these have at times caused howls of outrage by her detractors (i.e. 'death panels'), they have also been explosively effective politically. With a couple of paragraphs last July/August, she derailed the entire game plan to sell ObamaCare over the Congressional recess.
Ultimately she will make or break herself with this assignment. Your observation is on the money; we'll just have to see how it plays out.
<blockqutoe>If you spend enough time blogging, or writing a column or hosting a radio or TV show, you open a door for your enemiesTell that to Al Franken and my own representative Mike Pence, both of whom had their own shows prior to getting elected, not to mention Jillmz. It's not necessarily the best way into politics, but a few can make it work.
I personally don't think she can win in 2012. Yes, she has a following. Yes, she has pretty solid conservative roots. A true outsider (actually 535 of them) would do Washington some good, no doubt. However, even though many Americans can identify with her, they probably won't want her to run the nation. There's just too many shortcomings in the qualifications department. Of course, lack of experience didn't stop Barack Obama, who had a eerily similar rock star following. Who knows? I could be wrong.
I'd personally like to see Huckabee give it a shot. For a republican, he's actually got fresh ideas and has stepped away from the corporatist roots of the typical republican candidate.
Unscripted, unrestrained Sarah Palin? Oh. My. Goodness.
I can't wait to see the gaffes this woman will offer SNL. They must be partying down with this news.
“What's a moderate Rep to do?”
Hope that her true lack of qualifications shines through and that she makes a fool of herself, I guess.
Unscripted, unrestrained Sarah Palin? Oh. My. Goodness”
Some may think she is less than smart, but Fox isn't. She will be scripted, or at least well prepared, for a while. Fox wants to protect their investment and their reputation.
And, I hope the Reps have some of their brains left, and support someone else at least in 2012.
“Unscripted, unrestrained Sarah Palin?”
She might even have 1/4 the gaffs that Biden provides on a daily basis. I should rephrase, I don't think they allow him out that often.
I'm not a big Palin fan but the I hate Palin crowd just gets a little absurd.
Can't you just see her on “What Up with That?”
She and Biden can sit next to one another and jam.
Maybe the Reverend will have some pearls of wisdom for them both.
I'd shoot my tv before I'd allow that to enter my house