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The Biden Rove Debate
As has been reported in the media Vice President Biden has claimed that he scolded President Bush in the Oval Office while former Bush aides (including Karl Rove) say the story is a fake. This is an interesting debate for me in that I am not a Rove fan (indeed I blame him for badly hurting the GOP) but at the same time I am not particularly trusting of these kind of claims from Biden (given his past history of gaffes and exaggerations).
In this case though I would have to lean towards Rove over Biden only because of a point made by another Bush aide on MSNBC. He pointed out that it would be very unusual for a President of either party to meet with anyone, let alone a member of Congress, without staff members in the room. The aide tactfully said it was to make sure the President had the information he needed but the real reason is, of course, to have someone there to back up your story.
Indeed I would assume it would be unusual for any meeting of officials in Washington to occur without staff members around to back up their bosses story. Biden would certainly know this so I am not sure why he would make the claim, other than he tends to shoot from the hip
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5 Responses to “The Biden Rove Debate”
Biden responded that he ''ended up in the top half'' of his class (not true) and ''graduated with three degrees from college” (not true).
Five months later, Biden acknowledged that he graduated 76th in a class of 85. ''I did not graduate in the top half of my class at law school and my recollection of this was inaccurate,” he said in a statement. He graduated with one degree — a B.A.
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Perhaps he is having yet another “inaccurate recollection”
Given the lack of hard facts or evidence, seems this boils down to “who do you believe?”. And with the reputation of the two individuals in question, Biden is clearly the more trustworthy of the two hands-down.
And that's saying a whole lot, since Biden's verbal gaffes are both legion and legendary.
All communication in the Oval Office is documented or recorded. Biden's claim (and prior similar claims) aren't backed up at all by the evidence. As usual, Biden is a serial liar.
Joe Biden's list of plagiarism & abnormal departures from reality make him a serial cheat/liar/delusional. Rove is clearly a rational actor, and a political genius. Biden is a freak of the American political system—as Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Cte., he is totally ignorant of foreign policy. Hence, his astounding claim that “The UN kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon…. [or words to that effect.]
For the uninformed, Hezbollah is in the process of taking over Lebanon political assassination by p.a., with the help of terrorist-enabler Syria [whose clandestine nuke facility was bombed by the Israelis and has subsequently been traced back to the Iranians.]
I'm sure Biden is unaware as “Drug Czar” of his daughter's forays into tooting up lines from time to time. He's already making Cheney and even Quayle look relatively presidential. And Harry Reid continues to declare that income taxes are “voluntary,” so Biden was selected from a greenhouse full of Dem Senate loons [Bunning is the only certifiable Repub loon.]
wow all the morons are coming out to respond to what is actually a minor story.The most recent guy, daveinboca, starts off with some strong attacks then devolves into mud slinging concerning biden's daughter.
Karl Rove is the architect of the rise and fall of George Bush…no question on this one.
Lets not forget about the Valerie Plame fiasco that Rove, Cheney and Libby were involved in, heads should have rolled for that one…..so lets be careful who we call liars and cheats.