I’m glad I wasn’t the only one, because I’d begun to worry that the 2 to 3 Knob Creek to Folgers breakfast mixture was taking an early toll on me. Apparently it was not just my imagination, and as Steve Benen points out, Liz Cheney has been on virtually every television channel in the nation twenty-four hours per day for the last two weeks. I know that I personally caught her on CNN, Fox, ABC and MSNBC myself. And, as Benen points out, her visit to Morning Joe amounted to more than a guest interview.

That’s 12 appearances, in nine and a half days, spanning four networks. (On today’s “Morning Joe,” Liz Cheney was on for an entire hour — effectively becoming a co-host of the program.) And this is just television, and doesn’t include Liz Cheney’s interviews on radio or with print media.

The first thing to note here is that there is simply no valid criticism to be leveled at Liz Cheney for making these appearances. Like any other American who is interested in politics, she’s entitled to get out there on the soapbox and air her views with whoever will have her. And who doesn’t like defending their dad?

No, the real question here is what the networks are thinking, trotting out the daughter of a former VP this often and in such high profile appearances? After all, much like Hillary Clinton in 2000, what does she really have by way of credentials aside from her last name? Really not much more than John McCain’s daughter, aside from one position which she only got by virtue of her last name anyway. Yet both of them are being foisted off on the media consuming public like it was an exclusive interview with the Ghost of Elvis.

The major issue I have with Liz is her manners (or lack thereof) in the interview chair. Her appearance on Morning Joe, for example, was a classic example of the other spots she has done. A question is asked and Liz is given virtually forever to repeat the talking points issued by her father. Then a countering argument is asked for from another speaker. They manage to get three – or at most five – words out of their mouth and Liz jumps in, shouts them down, and begins parroting the same points over and over again. And the hosts pretty much uniformly fail to challenge her on her lack of understanding of debate. It’s like the worst of the abortion debates you’ve ever seen where the speakers just shout over and over, seeming to feel that their view will carry the day if only they can stop the other side from being heard at all.

As an aside to my Republican friends, I hear plenty of complaints about the young McCain daughter hitting the media circuits, but not so much about Liz eating up the air time.

What’s up, MSM folks? How is this a hot get for the morning circuit?

JAZZ SHAW, Assistant Editor
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Silhouette
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Silhouette
7 years 4 months ago

The relation to the number of appearances and her vehemence defending her father is in direct proportion to her justified fears that he will be behind bars soon.

The more she talks, the more guilty it makes Dick look. We arent’ stupid you know.

rudi
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rudi
7 years 4 months ago

I like Joe S, but he’s pandering to his token audience with Liz Cheney. Maybe a true patroit like Juanyta Ortiz could have explained the W and Cheney vision better than his spokeswomen by injection. ;- )

CStanley
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CStanley
7 years 4 months ago

As an aside to my Republican friends, I hear plenty of complaints about the young McCain daughter hitting the media circuits, but not so much about Liz eating up the air time.

Um, maybe because Meghan McCain comes across as an airhead who’s a useful idiot for the left, while Cheney actually makes intellectual arguments to support her point of view? Plus, even if you claim it was just nepotism, she did have a position in the administration and speaks from first hand knowledge.

HemmD
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HemmD
7 years 4 months ago

CS

Come on, volume is not a valid argument. Maybe she and Mancow could go on Maddow’s show where an adult conversation would ensue. Old Joe riddles his show with over talking co-hosts and guests all the time, so it would be instructive to all if she was faced with facts. Facts like Mancow’s recent conversion from believer that water boarding is not torture to six seconds of actual experience of water boarding.

That’s all it took to him to see the truth, and all the shouting from the Cheney clan won’t change that.

Guest Voice
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7 years 4 months ago
Shaun here. I’m getting some sort of weird-assed Disqus comment box that I’ve never seen, so this comment will hopefully go through . . . As I wrote today at my own blog, my thoughts keep drifting to our first foray to the beach of the season this weekend, but I just can’t shake the horror that was the mainstream media “reaction” to the Cheney-Obama national-security cage match on Thursday. And its fawning obeisance to Liz Cheney, who is her father in a pants suit. Lest I not be clear, as highly unusual as it was I think the former… Read more »
jwest
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jwest
7 years 4 months ago
“The major issue I have with Liz is her manners (or lack thereof) in the interview chair.” I would like to challenge the TMV readers and authors to review the Liz Cheney interviews this weekend via YouTube and render a judgment as to her manners. This will be a good gauge of intellectual honesty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbPlhr0odOY Jazz, you have written some things that I disagree with, but this article is the first that makes me think you’re not up to the challenge of critical thought. Liz Cheney was shouting down people? I have reread your article twice and notice that Lawrence… Read more »
CStanley
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CStanley
7 years 4 months ago
I haven’t seen the Morning Joe segment that Jazz refers to but I have to say that I was surprised by the way he characterized her ‘manners’ after having seen her on several other shows (a couple of clips were posted here a week or two ago, for instance.) In the segments I saw, she was not at all ‘ill mannered’, never raised her voice even though the interviewer was clearly out of line several times, and was extremely articulate in stating her positions. I will say that she seems pretty aggressive in using her time to answer questions without… Read more »
Jazz
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7 years 4 months ago
My my my…. leave you bunch of scamps alone in a comments thread for a couple of days and you’re worse than a sewing circle! Anyway, on to the bones of contention. Some clever work by our more conservative readers in this thread on a few counts, but I’m afraid not quite clever enough. (Bonus points for trying, though!) First of all, there is the false attitude that I was somehow trying to compare Meghan McCain to Liz Cheney. I *mentioned* Meghan only because of the one thing they seem to share in common… the fact that there is little… Read more »
SteveK
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SteveK
7 years 4 months ago

jwest said: “Leave the insanity to Shaun Mullen, he has a patent on it. And before you write, think.”

Your completely off topic, totally inappropriate attack on another poster (one who isn’t even participating in this thread) leads one to believe that the ‘j’ in ‘jwest’ might very well stand for jerk as that’s how your comment reads.

Childish ad hominem does nothing to help your position or point of view.

jwest
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jwest
7 years 4 months ago

Steve,

Bite me. There is not a word or phrase or insult that would come close to being appropriate for Shaun.

If I responded in kind to one tenth the crap he posts on this site, Gandelman would need to hose it down nightly.

EEllis
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EEllis
7 years 4 months ago

You may disagree with her but Cheney seems very smart and knowledgeable. It seems reasonable to have her on seeing as she clearly knows the subjects and could be inferred to have some knowledge of her fathers opinions. Only reason I can see to slam her in particular is because she might be effective.

StockBoySF
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StockBoySF
7 years 4 months ago
The YouTube video jwest provided a link to DOES show Liz Cheney interrupting and speaking over Lawrence O’Donnell (at about time mark 1:45). Whether you consider this to be bad manners is another thing. The thing about the video… Liz used her background as a former State Dept. official to give her credibility, but she was on as a daughter defending her dad, the former VP. This probably makes more viewers more sympathetic to her dad (and her). If she had defended the “former Vice President Dick Cheney” then people would think of Cheney as a villian….. But since she… Read more »
EEllis
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EEllis
7 years 4 months ago

Come on Stockboy he (Lawrence O’Donnell) was more aggressive and interrupted much more than she did and at a higher volume. He made three points and then She interrupted to address those points. She acted and came off as much more professional than he did. We are not given the link to the show the poster references but in what we saw the complaints are absurd.

Middleaged Messenger
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7 years 4 months ago
Cut and pasted from Wikipedia on Liz Cheney: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Cheney “Prior to attending law school, Cheney worked for the State Department for five years and the U.S. Agency for International Development between 1989 and 1993. After 1993, she took a job at Armitage Associates LLP, the consulting firm founded by Richard Armitage, then a former Defense Department official and Iran-Contra operative who later served as Deputy Secretary of State. After graduating from law school, Cheney practiced law in the private sector (at the law firm of White & Case) and as an international law attorney and consultant at the International Finance… Read more »
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Section 9
7 years 4 months ago

What sophmoric, petulant whining on the part of Jazz Shaw.

Liz Cheney shows that she has the stones to go on MSNBC and hand Larry O’Donnell his head in his hand and the Left starts whining about manners? Please. Where were you people when Bush was being compared unfavorably to Hitler?

I want to see the episode where Liz turns Olbermann into a new member of the Vienna Boys Choir. Now THAT will be worth my monthly subscription to DirectTV!

Middleaged Messenger
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7 years 4 months ago

Addendum: My earlier clip from Wikipedia failed to cover Liz Cheney’s later positions in the State Department, including – starting in February, 2005 – “Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of State For Near Eastern Affairs.”making her “the second-ranking U.S. diplomat for the Middle East.”

See the link I provided above.

blueman9000
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blueman9000
7 years 4 months ago

Liz Cheney was a fairly high ranking government official.

Megan McCain hasn’t held a real job in her life.

Shootist
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Shootist
7 years 4 months ago

Quote from the article, “After all, much like Hillary Clinton in 2000, what does she really have by way of credentials . . .”

After all, much like Barack Hussien Obama in 2004, what does she really have by way of credentials?

EEllis
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EEllis
7 years 4 months ago

Show it Jazz. On the posted link Cheney was by far the more profesional and polite of the two speakers. Really the worst thing you got on her is her last name.

middleagedmessenger
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middleagedmessenger
7 years 3 months ago
Liz Cheney is a intelligent & accomplished person, certainly far, far more so than lightweights such as Meghan McCain and Jazz Shaw. 1) Shaw compared Cheney to McCain, got caught with that blatant bit of dishonesty, and then tried, and failed, to wriggle his way out of it with his latest post. 2) When his false claim that Cheney was rude was refuted by actual video evidence, Shaw simply offered more assertions, rather than the pertinent YouTube clips (for the obvious reason.) But Shaw’s assertions have already proven untrustworthy. 3) So all we are left with is an ungrounded and… Read more »
CStanley
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CStanley
7 years 3 months ago
Jazz, do you really mean to suggest that anyone who disagrees with your general opinion of Liz Cheney must have an agenda? You asked what I thought was a legitimate question, why Republicans aren’t as negative toward Cheney’s public appearances as some of us have been toward Meghan McCain, and quite frankly I think the comparison itself (not our reactions) is pretty absurd. Sure, both women are the daughters of politicians. And I didn’t claim that Liz Cheney didn’t get where she was without family connections- I’m quite sure that was a factor, just as it was for oh, say… Read more »
aluceo
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aluceo
7 years 3 months ago
A QUESTION OF JOURNALISTIC DEONTOLOGY! The recent appearances of the Cheneys over the media as a credible political opponent on par to the Obama administration’s policies and stances raises an issue of journalistic deontology! This is definitely of artificial making. On the one hand, we’ve got a legitimately elected President of the United States who has undergone the rigorous electoral process having to make his case to the American people and coming out successful in eliciting the policies he intends to carry out during his mandate within the confines of the American political institutional structure and process. On the other… Read more »
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