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Posted by on Dec 9, 2006 in At TMV | 14 comments

European Jealousy Exposed


Image from Voltaire Network: Dominance of US Superpower?
Jules has an interesting post up about an article from the Guardian, written by one Martin Jacques. After dealing with what Jules calls a tremendous case of revisionist history, he deals with what Martin wrote about Iraq:

Which brings us to Iraq. Jacques correctly notes that in the wake of U.S. failure there, Iran will emerge as a power. He fails to notice any problem with that, only equating Iran’s rise with a hypothetical but laughable notion of a rise in European Union power.

What is interesting here is the Euroview Jacques is treating us to: A U.S. failure in Iraq does not have dire consequences, but in fact is desireable in how it will give the neo-cons their comeuppance and force the United States into what Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer once accurately disparaged as “multilaterism of the lowest common denominator.”

Unfortunately, Jacques is in the end correct, though not quite in the way he intends: The United States, post-abandonment of Iraq, will be rendered as toothless and worthless on the world stage as the multilaterist European Union.

One should not be surprised about this attitude from Mr. Martin. It is quite common here. Most Europeans seem to have some kind of strange “ha, this should teach them that they’re not the police of the world” attitude. Extremely disturbing… and worrisome. On a more subjective note, it seems to me that above-described attitude is more common in France than in, say, the Netherlands.

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  • Michael,
    Who are the wiser leaders in the EU who promote a more active foriegn engagement and collaboration with the US?

  • I would say, generally, the more conservative politicians, except for France that is. Berlusconi was such a leader, in Germany of course Merkel is America oriented, in GB Blair, and in the Netherlands, before the last elections, the government was (and continues to be by the way, since a new coalition has not yet been formed) very America oriented.

    However, I must say that there is a big problem right now: Bush is not considered to be very trustworthy, not even by the pro-Americanists. This means that the voice of pro-Americanists will get softer and softer until 08 when Bush is replaced.

  • Thanks for the post and link, Michael. Standard disclaimer: My Eurobashing does not extend to that small elite club of the responsible nations of Europe, though it may include many of their citizens, rather it extends to the usual suspects as well as the prevalent Eurism.

  • Ha, thanks for the disclaimer Jules 😉 I know that you don’t mean to refer to every single European. For the other readers however, your disclaimer might be very useful;)

    Congrats, by the way, with being nominated for Best New Blog. You deserve to win it.

  • Michael,
    What kinds of policies and themes would the next US president need to promote to reinspire US/EU collaboration?

    Would a joint energy self sufficiency effort have any traction?

  • Paul, that is a great suggestion actually. I would also say that the next U.S. President should do more in favor of the environment.

    Besides that I’d say that the US should try to involve European countries more, and with less arrogance.

    There are of course many more issues. For example, perhaps concentrating on reforming Africa and the Mideast in a less warfaring manner, trying to make a big plan, with European and other countries to fight AIDS more effectively, stuff like that.

    I think that what Europe needs know, is to see the ‘good, giving’ side of the US. The generous side. It may cost money at first, but as I see it, it will pay off.

  • grognard

    “good, giving� …�may cost us money� We don’t have any money , the estimates of the cost of Iraq run into the trillions of dollars, esp. when you consider the cost of taking care of disabled vets and other hidden costs. By the time we get out of Iraq and finally take on the Taliban in Afghanistan we will be bankrupt.

  • think twice grognard. Waht do you think will happen once the Euro-US relationship improves?

  • grognard

    Michael, I can’t see Europe bailing us out, too much bad blood. And I can’t say I blame the either.

  • Krous

    I’m an American and I agree wholeheartedly with the Europeans!

    The whole damn war on Iraq was based on an ideology that is as unrealistic as a stupid John Wayne movie!

    We are not protecting the innocent people in Iraq. We are causing them to kill each in a fight for power and oil wealth! We gave them democratic politics and they are indeed in a democratic political war! They need an Iraqi General Grant not another damn election!

    Well you can see what a tribal democracy experiment looks like now! Real SMART idea, purple damn fingers and all! HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS DEAD…so we blame the Iraqis for being so different that we cannot understand them. Liberation my arse. They NEED a dictator, or a King or an Inman or a grand poobba or what ever. They cannot just “be” like us. As we LOSE this war, we can now LEARN that the “Spread Democracy” around the world “fur freedum cuz ever body wont’s to be free” ideology just don’t work for all people. In the end democracy might not even work for US!

    No we don’t need more troops…yes we need more troops….cut back on the millitary to save money…WTF is going on with these fools? They DO NOT know what they are doing!

    GET IT?!

  • MattK

    Michael, let me ask you a few questions:

    Why should America care about Europe ?

    Why should America, having spent trillions of dollars defending Europe, care what happens to you ?

    Why should America care what Europe thinks ? A vast majority of Europeans would love nothing better to see an American dead, so why should we care about you ?

  • Krous

    MattK

    Let me help. Because…we now know that we cannot defend ourselves against the world alone unless we destroy it all in a nuclear radiation cloud.

    Maybe next time we will LISTEN to WTF other people are telling us before we decide to play Gunsmoke. Then there just might be a few other people that will stand beside us.

    In short. We are not omnipotent.

  • Pyst

    “We are not omnipotent.”

    We got a winner!

    I along with the forgotten conservatives (pre-Regan) that viewed containment, and quietly backing groups from afar would like a return to the US worrying about….get this…the US.

    The pro-american factions in Europe can kiss my hind end, they are like the little guy that hangs around a bully chanting “yeah what he said!”, only to hide behind him and maybe sneak in a sucker punch on the unlucky guy. Time for you chest thumping types to start in the big game and back up that big mouth, because the grizzled veteran is banged up and tired. It’s supposedly the US’s duty to carry the load time and again. Well I say we stay home and take care of our backyard (plenty of leaves here to rake) and let you guys take over. It’s not like you guys don’t have the military’s to do it, the only question is do you have the guts to spill like the rabid few there champion americans to do for them?

    Time to pull your weight Europe, and by that I mean the pro-ME war faction there. All you need are 200,000 Europeans to do it, and I’m sure you got a couple zillion on the dole to spare for your war needs.

  • Jim S

    The attitude shown by MattK is what often cripples the U.S. A blanket condemnation of Europe and a willingness to think that we can actually choose to ignore a huge segment of the world’s population will never help our country accomplish anything.

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