Another Tragically Predictable Tragedy?

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It lessens the horror not one iota and I take no pride in a prescience borne of long experience, but I will not be surprised in the least that the wacko who gunned down 32 people on the Virginia Tech campus this morning before killing himself was a white male armed with street legal weapons who was not part of a well-regulated militia but had a head full of problems.

It is probable that no gun law would have prevented the rampage at the Blacksburg, Virginia, university, so let’s dispose with the It Could Have Been Prevented fiction right away.

Although it’s a piece of cake to buy every weapon used in recent mass shootings in Virginia and most other states — including the .9mm handgun and .22-caliber pistol the Virginia Tech shooter apparently used — he probably had no criminal record that might have alerted authorities to him. And as experience shows, head cases have a way of getting weapons no matter how tough local laws are.

Face it, after years of head banging by gun-control advocates on the federal, state and municipal levels, the U.S. remains pretty much one big Wild West town when it comes to the sale, possession and use of guns.

Pro-gun advocates use the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as their fig leaf. What the Constitution doesn’t say is that the rights of gun owners trump the rights of everyone else, currently those dead and wounded Virginia Tech students.

It is my view that for all intents and purposes, gun control is dead (pun intended) in America.

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For breaking news on the massacre, click here and here. For Virginia Tech’s response, including a statement from its president, click here.

Photograph by Alan Kim/The Roanoke Times via Associated Press

216 Comments

  1. > We can’t get nothing done with 2 parties.
    > Four would be just grand, we could get 1/2
    > as much done for twice the price and blame
    > it on Ron Paul.

    What would you suggest to get better representation than we have now?

    4-6 or more parties is a good idea for this. And if you’ve lived and traveled all over the USA as I have, you know this country is far from homogeneous.

  2. > Well, if one believes that the
    > federal government is spending
    > far too much

    Or doing too much…

  3. Another student has passed. He had been shot in the chest. His name was Michael. He was the son of an online friends’ neighbor. Another online friends’ child and the child’s best friend and her sister are physically fine.

  4. Top five mass murders in the US. Atta and others, airliners hijacked with box cutters, 3000 killed. McVeigh, fertilizer bomb, 168 killed. Gonzales, gasoline bomb, 87 killed. Kehoe, explosives, 45 killed. Graham, explosives, 44 killed. Do guns make it easier to kill? Yes, but if somebody is intent on murder not having access to guns means nothing.

  5. > Do guns make it easier to kill?
    > Yes, but if somebody is intent
    > on murder not having access
    > to guns means nothing.

    There are ways to kill more people more efficiently than with guns, certainly.

  6. Violence cannot be stopped by just banning guns.

    A majority of Americans seem to lean on arms owing to a fear psychosis that can be perhaps traced to the memories of being the settlers in an alien land not very long ago in history.

    There are those who have, consciously or unconsciously, developed a macho trait to overcome this fear.

    These traits become more visible whenever the nation responds to a major crisis, such as the present shocking killings in the American campus, or when muscle power is used outside the USA.

    There is no easy solution when fear and violence take possession of one’s mind and thought. Banning this, or having more and more strict legislation, alone would not help much.

    9/11 has further complicated things for an average American. The past four years have clearly displayed that violent response to violent acts creates more fear.

    Now add to all this the growing confusion in the minds of the people when things don’t work out in the ‘desired’ fashion despite having all the muscle power.

    And we have the heady cocktail of fear, macho trait and confusion. A deadly combination that can sap the strength of the mightiest person/nation.

    Violence (or fear or greed or whatever) is in the mind…and it is from there it has to be healed or removed. Otherwise a person/nation continues to suffer, and makes others suffer.

    “The Roots of Violence: Wealth without Work, Pleasure without Conscience, Knowledge without Character, Commerce without Morality, Science without Humanity, Worship without Sacrifice, Politics without Principles.â€? — Mahatma Gandhi

  7. From BlogDayAfternoon:

    At least 32 people are dead after a gunman unleashed a hail of bullets at Virginia Tech. Don Imus, we hardly knew you. Rightards said we need more guns in order to prevent gun violence. Libtards responded with demands for fewer guns. Half of all centards want a few more guns, the other half want ice cream or something.

    What? Why not guns and ice cream?

  8. grognard- Oh Right, but students are not always intent on murder. Chance of catching the prospective murderer while accumulating explosives, real damn good. And you KNOW how the airports are nowadays.

    Please. You make that old tired argument while more and more kids are killed. Why would anybody listen to someone like you?

    Disgusting

  9. Very very sad, but…yawn..what’s all the fuss about? Americans have killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis over the past few years during their illegal occupation of that country, trying to impose their ‘democratic’ ways.Trigger happy fools, who clearly do not learn from past mistakes.Do any of you shed a tear or spare a thought for those innocent people in Iraq or throughout the Middle East? I live on the other side of the world (luckily) but I do have American friends, it is just the American establishment, I and the majority of others, detest. Bush got in a second time, let a alone a first, what a joke. God will not help you, growing a conscience might. Understand that the world does not revolve around you, don’t be so self absorbed and develop some humanity. For if you don’t change, you will be the cause of your own destruction.

  10. I think Swaraaj is right. We have to do MORE than just ban guns. We have to ban heady cocktails of fear, macho traits and confusion before our strength is sapped.

  11. White, missed my point entirely. You focus on the tool used for killing, not the intent of the person using the tool. Yes guns make it easier, but Gonzales was kicked out of a bar, went home, made a gasoline bomb and returned to light the fire that killed 87 people. Total time to do this was a half hour including travel time. Lack of a gun did nothing to stop him from mass murder, it didn‘t even slow him down.. I want to know the underlying cause of the rages that these people go into that makes them do these acts of violence, that understanding stops the killing. Focusing on the weapon used stops nothing.

  12. I think Swaraaj is wrong. If this were China, they’d be harvesting the VT victims’ organs like the bodies were a bunch of busted pinatas. So why doesn’t gentle Swaraaj go to China and donate himself? And stay away from that mean old USA with its macho wealth and power?

  13. daveinboca- Well if they are dead Dave, what difference does it make?

    grognard- Well then lets make them stick to gasoline bombs. Limits their potential. Why not legalize nuclear weapons grog? I mean, you can’t stop a mass murderer from getting one anyway….right?

  14. > If this were China, they’d be
    > harvesting the VT victims’
    > organs like the bodies were a
    > bunch of busted pinatas.

    Not waiting for clinical death, either.

    “Macho USA,” “cowboy USA,” etc. — this from someone in one of two nations constantly chest-thumping in its own neighborhood with far more “macho” posturing than the USA has ever engaged in.

    I await more tit-for-tat missile and even nuke tests there.

  15. This actually passes as a serious comment regarding the psyche of an entire nation? How about if I conclude that such drive is the result of fear and cowardice on the part of the writer. I could think up even more disparaging remarks based on the history of a nation which values cows above people. Or how about I just contrast the American love for freedom with the Indian caste system. Of course we could just simply consider what The United States has done in a few hundred years as compared to India in a few thousand. Or just look at the state of the two nations today.

    Please spare me your value system as I have no desire to trade my liberty for what constitutes freedom in your country. Before you cast aspersions on other cultures perhaps you should engage in a bit of self reflection. And I’m not talking about contemplating your navel, practicing reiki or some other such nonsense. Perhaps our freedoms can’t be understood from your perspective. But we will continue to not drive our policies based on the actions of a few solitary lunatics. You will never understand our reasons for valuing human liberty over the lives of cows. But I assure you it is far more complicated than your absurd and insulting characterization

  16. The above post was in regard to this drivel .

    Swaraaj Chauhan Says:

    April 16th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
    Violence cannot be stopped by just banning guns.

    A majority of Americans seem to lean on arms owing to a fear psychosis that can be perhaps traced to the memories of being the settlers in an alien land not very long ago in history.

    There are those who have, consciously or unconsciously, developed a macho trait to overcome this fear.

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