The source of the fear is inside Congress, not out there in America:

Over the past week, the public option has made an unexpected comeback. As of this morning, 23 Democrats had signed a letter asking Reid to add it into the bill during the reconciliation process. The White House and the Senate leadership both said that if the public option had the votes, they wouldn’t oppose its inclusion. But privately, most of the offices were saying the same thing: We don’t want to oppose the public option, but we don’t want to reopen the public option debate.

But they signed the letter anyway. They described it as a collective action problem: If everyone signed it, Democrats had a serious problem on their hands. But no one individual wanted to oppose it.

It would be fair, at this point, to ask why Democrats would have a problem if they attempted to pass the public option. The public option is popular policy, it’s good policy, and it energizes the base. The problem is that it’s not popular policy with the handful of conservative House and Senate votes that you need to push this bill over the finish line.
[…] I’m not defending these arguments. I don’t think conservative Democrats will pick up even a single vote if the final plan doesn’t include a public option, while I think they’ll probably gain a few if their base feels like they won something big this year. Nor have I seen any evidence that Americans will reward Democrats for being bipartisan if Republicans refuse to cooperate with the strategy. But that’s the thinking.

Kathy Kattenburg
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Cupertino56
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Cupertino56
6 years 6 months ago

Dear Mr. President:

Health care reform without a public option is no reform at all.

Mr. President, you seem to slipping from a position of leadership, to one of management. Please, take a few minutes to watch this clip from the 1995 movie, The American President, starring Michael Douglas. View it in the context of health care and banking reform, and the current state of malaise in American politics. This clip is worth 10,000 words.

Thank you.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWRVbWMvi7c

DLS
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DLS
6 years 6 months ago
It became toxic waste during the past year, thanks to the Dems. [clapping pinkies] Obama may have left the public option out of the Dems’ bargaining position to present the view they wouldn’t try to overreach going in — of course, his plan and what the Dems appear to be seeking makes a lie out of any claim to being reasonable. (We already suspected they wouldn’t bargain in good faith, and the plan with things like federal price controls on insurers show they’re overreaching, anyway.) The public option could truly be revived. Never mind if it might reappear in the… Read more »
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DLS
6 years 6 months ago
Kathy, This is an article in the Economist, a magazine I’ve long enjoyed (a perfect companion for me on a solo flight, or whenever I must wait for a long time somewhere). This is something I just posted in a reply I made to someone else on another thread. Government intervention in health care is something I view as eventual, if not inevitable here, and for various reasons (not just ignorance of or contempt for constitutional federalism, or for deliberately concentrating interventionism in Washington, but for convenience if not laziness or impatience or the desire for standardization as well as… Read more »
shannonlee
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shannonlee
6 years 6 months ago

thanks for the link.

JSpencer
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JSpencer
6 years 6 months ago

Thanks for the economist link, good article.

dduck12
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dduck12
6 years 6 months ago

This is an article in the Economist,”

They didn’t exactly bend over backwards to explain all the Anthem premium story.
The WSJ has some facts: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704804204575069833643345608.html

DLS
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DLS
6 years 6 months ago
dduck12
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dduck12
6 years 6 months ago

of another insurance problem.”

The government plan will accept 100% of all requests, I’m sure.

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6 years 6 months ago

Democrats are treating the public option the way they treated GLBT people in the 90s. It is “cool” to support it in principle, but when the time comes for a vote, they bolt.

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superdestroyer
6 years 6 months ago
The Democrats have had to run away from the public option because they have been so open in the desire to see the public option fail. The Democrats have been very open in saying that they would first start a public option, they would then subsidize the costs with tax dollars (to put the private insurance industry out of business) and then would lower reimbrusement costs to drive health care workers out of the industry. A pubic option would look like the current school system: the rich would still have a boutique private system, the poor would have the equivalent… Read more »
Leonidas
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Leonidas
6 years 6 months ago

Why are the democrats so afraid of the public option?

November

kathykattenburg
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kathykattenburg
6 years 6 months ago

November should be their fear if the public option *isn’t* passed, given how consistently well it polls. But don’t let reality stand in the way of your ideology.

Schadenfreude_lives
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Schadenfreude_lives
6 years 6 months ago

But don’t let reality stand in the way of your ideology.

Practice what you preach. Polls all show that the support for HCR is not there anymore.

GreenDreams
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6 years 6 months ago
Both sides see what they want to see in the polls. The right sees that a majority don’t want the mishmash put together by Dems and the insurance cartel and assume that the public wants what the right wants. Nothing. Status quo. Oh, except with “tort reform” so even those injured by incompetence or negligence don’t have recourse. The left sees >70% for the public option. The right ignores this and insists that the only thing that will save Dems is to give up. They’re wrong. Worse, they’re lying. They want the Dems to give up because THAT will hurt… Read more »
Leonidas
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Leonidas
6 years 6 months ago
November should be their fear if the public option *isn’t* passed, given how consistently well it polls. Umm…the generic congressional ballot has tipped Republican for some time now, I think it started about when the healthcare debate kicked off. Anyhow, what will progressives really do? Vote Republican in protest? Try to elect more progressives in democratically held seats in primaries thus more likely making it easier for Republicans to win in some cases, or creating more Joe Lieberman style independents in blue Stats? I mean how is that Ned Lamont thing working out for progressives? Somehow I don’t think anyone,… Read more »
Silhouette
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Silhouette
6 years 6 months ago

Either dems can’t do math or they’re running scared of “Citizens” [including foreigners] United”.

Either or…

Leonidas
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Leonidas
6 years 6 months ago

Somehow I think I’ll get many a chuckle from progressives blaming corporate campaign ads for election losses.

Budjob
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Budjob
6 years 6 months ago

I see Dick Cheney was released from the hospital this morning after being treated for a heart attack.The public option that he and the rest of these jerks in congress are ENTITLED to is treating ALL of them very well !!My question is where the hell is my healthcare VIA the public option???

Silhouette
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Silhouette
6 years 6 months ago
Yeah, it’s not like most of us are too busy trying to keep our heads above water that are main source of information for or against candidates is found online or on the tube. It’s not like advertisers know this. It’s not like most campaign money is spent on this. It’s not like exhaustive studies and factual experience has shown us that advertising money makes or breaks otherwise equal candidates. Nah.. It’s so friggin’ HILARIOUS that now corporations made up of foreign citizens, like Newscorp or Citigroup [Newscorp of Fox news hellbent on dividing citizens against each other in time… Read more »
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DLS
6 years 6 months ago

Why have Dems retreated from the public option?

“November” [Leo]

I wonder if some of them have learned the lessons of the past year, which includes one of them with this one, and other big things the Dems have done (badly and wrongly) that have repelled Americans.

With this and other kinds of legislation, given their past record, and Americans’ experience, sometimes even the less-controversial or potentially-useful legislation falters, because [sniff, sniff] there’s this past year’s Dems on it!

DLS
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DLS
6 years 6 months ago
Duck, “didn’t exactly bend over backwards to explain all the Anthem premium story” No, though I felt it was instructive nevertheless. For what it’s worth, Medicare is ludicrous. In addition to underpayment (which restricts access as a general problem), with transplants Medicare is simply stupid. They pay for the transplant (I don’t know and I suspect it’s subject to the standard of 80% of allowed costs, so you’re stuck then with 20% of all you incur plus any additional balance billing, which then is compounded by any Medigap insurance fun and games). But they only pay for the post-Tx immunosuppressant… Read more »
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6 years 6 months ago
1. Pollster.com: This is just a graph showing an overall job approval rating on health care. If this pollster had asked me if I approved or disapproved of Obama’s performance on health care, I would have said I disapproved, and I would have become part of that 52.2%. 2. CBS News: This is also just an overall job approval rating on health care, but this time there is an actual article which says that Democrats and Republicans in Congress also get very low job approval ratings on health care, and the job approval rating for Republicans is even lower than… Read more »
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Schadenfreude_lives
6 years 6 months ago
Oh, what a work of self-deception you are. How convenient to decide ‘just because’ not to comment on the next two links, because they are strictly about the lack of public support for health care. Where oh where are all the polls you can cite showing the public supports HCR? I am still waiting. Meanwhile, here are more for you to pretend don’t exist, don’t mean anything, whatever other pathetic excuse you need to drum up because you cannot stand the fact you are in the minority on this issue. But you don’t care and won’t follow these links or… Read more »
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