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Posted by on Oct 10, 2009 in Arts & Entertainment, Politics | 35 comments

Rush Limbaugh To Be Miss America Pageant Judge

art.rush.limbaugh.cspan.jpgWhen I was a kid in the 50s and 60s, the Miss America Pageant was a broadcasting national unifying event — earning whopping ratings, even though viewers had to endure host Bert Parks warbling “There She Is Miss America” (when I lived in India in the mid 70s I would play a tape of that to get back at the teenage son of a family with whom I lived and he’d beg me to stop. Parks also sang other songs and sometimes seemed on the same level as William Shatner as a singer). But it was an event that cut across age, sex, party and ideological lines.

Then it fell out of favor, as the premise of a beauty pageant fell out of favor amid a debate over what is a woman and how to you judge her true worth.

So the ratings fell…along with a generational interest pageants in general. It lost its longtime big network time slot and was started showing up on cable.

But now Miss America pageant is taking a step that could prove to be the final nail its coffin — a move that could well attract some viewers but will turn off a lot of others because one of the judges professionally demonizes a segment of America. It’s new judge? Rush Limbaugh (who I’m sure really needs the money).

Limbaugh will be part of a seven judge panel and the pageants chief honcho is ecstatic:

President and CEO Art McMaster said the Miss America Organization is thrilled to have Limbaugh as a judge.

Could it boost its ratings? Perhaps. Limbaugh does have a huge radio audience and the rating-challenged pageant is probably hoping this will give the event a big boost.

But in the long run, the song the event may need is: “There She Goes The Miss American Pageant.”

On the other hand, perhaps this means it’ll get a long-term option to be picked up as an annual event on Fox News, hosted by Sean Hannity, who might be able to sing There She Is (no liberal women need apply).

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  • superdestroyer

    Could you please give a link to your post where you criticized the Miss USA pageant for having Perez Hilton (Mario Armando Lavandeira) as a judge. If anything indicates that beauty peageants jumped the shark is would be in having a militant gay judge who had appeared in gay porn.

    • StockBoySF

      Superdestroyer, what exactly is the bone you want to pick over Perez Hilton being a judge at the MIss USA pageant? I’d like to understand so I can respond to your comment and how it relates to Rush being a judge in the upcoming event. Thanks.

      • superdestroyer

        If people are going to complain about Rush Limbaugh judging the Miss America pageant, then they would also need to complain about having a militant gay man whose entire stick is being snarky and outing gays from judging a beauty pageant. I know you will say that gay men really run the women;s fashion industry but the fashion industry is separate from the beauty pageant circuit. Why was a gay man judging a women’s beauty pageant. That would be like having a straight man judging a gay beauty pageant.

        • StockBoySF

          Superdestroyer, thanks. So if you don’t believe a gay man should judge a women’s beauty pageant, but that straight men can judge women’s beauty pageants… then are you also saying you’re opposed to women judging women’s beauty pageants?

        • StockBoySF

          Superdestroyer, by the way, I hadn’t even thought of men controlling the fashion industry as a response to you but since you bring it up…. Sure, if a man knows what makes a woman look beautiful then why shouldn’t he judge a beauty pageant, whether he’s straight, gay, in the fashion industry or just someone with exceptionally good taste?

          Personally I think if a gay guy (or straight, or a woman) knows how to bring out the natural beauty of a woman to be a judge at the Miss USA beauty pageant. I’m not sure why anyone would object to the designer of this being a judge at Miss America if he happened to be gay.

          http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2009/01/25/2008669704.jpg

  • Silhouette

    It’s akin to McCain picking Sarah Palin as his running mate. At first it seemed like a really good idea…

  • joegandelman

    I would LOVE to run a link providing you can send me some info about Perez Hilton’s hugely popular cable or radio talk show and about how some think (rightfully or wrongfully) PH is the de facto head of a political party or an ideological movement. I can’t tell you how much I love it on the internet when you write a post and someone comes back and tries to change the subject from the post by going on the attack by throwing out a comment that seems like it was written by a writer from The Onion. You’re welcome to address the subject of this post and Limbaugh being a host or demanding to see links I ran about Michael Moore, Pee Wee Hermany or Woody Woodpecker. I won’t be in comments all day so ENJOY. But the subject here — I THINK — is how the pageant used to be a family event, a unifying event that everyone watched, how changes in attitudes have reduced its audience, how it seeks to get it back (I neglected to add how it has run the final event as part of a reality series), and how Limbaugh has his many fans but is anathema to many Americans because of the way he treats those with whom he disagrees with such contempt. You can challenge me all you want on Perez Hilton or throw in Chris Matthews. It ain’t the same thing. See ya.

    • I see this is supposed to be an Internet hub for moderates. Could you please give me a link to someone who is actually moderate who posts here? Cause for my money the demonizing of Rush Limbaugh, who doesn’t demonize anyone (he criticizes, and strongly, lots of people but he rarely calls anyone who hasn’t actually killed someone else evil) For my money, if you think conservatives are not acceptable in polite society, you aren’t really a moderate.

      • kritt11

        Susan,
        We have all types posting here. But most moderates would not accept Rush Limbaugh’s rants as something that belong in polite society.

  • superdestroyer

    Joe,

    You wrote that having Rush Limbaugh as a judge will be the nail in the coffin of Miss America. I counted that the real nail in the coffin is having an internet celebrity and gossip columnist who used his position as a judge to make a political point was the nail in the coffin.

    I guess the difference is the Perez Hilton’s point was politically correct and a position that you support. And if you are going to make the point about a beauty pageant being a family event, they the nail in the coffin would be from having a militant gay who had performed in gay porn.

    Are you really making the point that only liberal progressives should be allowed to judge pageants or that only liberal progressives can be associated with “family entertainment.”

    If you want to talk about the collapse of beauty pageants, it has more to do with chaning demographics and the segmentation of the media market. I doubt if many blacks, Hispanics, or Asians are willing to spend time watching a bunch of Barbie wannabes.

  • DLS

    Joe, why is there such a pathological obscession with politics and a pathological form of politics by so many on the Left about Limbaugh and everything else, which also dwarfs almost to triviality what people on the Right ever do?

    Obviously the (real, serious, earlier) women’s rights movement, (real, serious, earlier) feminism already has diminished the meaning (not to mention the importance) of female beauty pageants. (Though this has not stopped the pathological leftists far outside the mainstream from exploiting such things even today, not only with weird attacks on Limbaugh, but also, for example, with viciousness toward a recent contestent who expressed a commonplace mainstream view about gay marriage and related extremism.)

    • Ray Haze

      My Favorite Rush quotes on Women. lol He is the perfect Pig for the job. Why do we still care about rewarding women for starving themselves ? lol Must be the talent portion !

      “We’re not sexists, we’re chauvinists — we’re male chauvinist pigs, and we’re happy to be because we think that’s what men were destined to be. We think that’s what women want.”

      “Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.”

      “She comes to me when she wants to be fed. And after I feed her — guess what — she’s off to wherever she wants to be in the house, until the next time she gets hungry. She’s smart enough to know she can’t feed herself. She’s actually a very smart cat. She gets loved. She gets adoration. She gets petted. She gets fed. And she doesn’t have to do anything for it, which is why I say this cat’s taught me more about women, than anything my whole life.” –on his cat

  • DLS

    “If you want to talk about the collapse of beauty pageants, it has more to do with chaning demographics and the segmentation of the media market.”

    Actually, there have been black, Hispanic, Asian, etc., contestants in these things just as there have been redheads in addition to brunettes battling the blondes, in the USA as well as (obviously) in bigger regional or world-wide contests. The real, serious, earlier reforms with normal feminism (as opposed to the wacky extremism, which it merits mentioning that Rush Limbaugh became famous for cleverly as well as correctly referring to as “femi-Nazis”), as with the pre-radicalization civil rights movement (and, for that matter, the legitimate, as opposed to perverse, environmentalist movement — there’s a pattern in that post-mid-60s radicalism), changed society and re-defined normality or convention in this country, and is arguably (the position I take, anyway) the major reason for the dimunition in interest and in importance, even “acceptability” or “legitimacy” (note) of female beauty pagents (contests and shows).

  • superdestroyer

    Looking at past events, Shawn Merriman (football player and woman beater) along with Jerry Springer (whose shows are anything but pro-feminist) have been judges. I wonder if Joe posted about Jerry Springer ruining the Miss America pageant. Somehow, I doubt it because groups like Moveon.org did not tell him what to think about Jerry Springer.

  • Déjà vu??. . . It took a moment but now the memory comes . . . Beauty and The Beast. . .

    all of us boomers must be getting nostalgic about now. . .if only Walt was with us. . .

  • DLS

    Jerry Springer is a Democratic former government official, and has run subsequently for another office as a Democrat in the past, so he, at least, is okay.

    (Note that Al Franken is now a Senator, and already [during Sotomayor’s vetting] expressed a liberal activist desire [that people have a “First Amendment” “right” to Internet service that private firms should be compelled to provide, if need be at a subsidized low cost], so even though Springer isn’t in office now, someone like Al Franken, at least, is — in the U.S. Senate, no less. Why not insist Franken be a judge?)

  • DLS

    “if only Walt was with us”

    I thought for a moment you wrote “Watt,” as in James G. “beauty pageant ‘checklist'” Watt.

  • DLS

    (For those who lack and need some extra information — James G. Watt’s pageant contestant checklist:)

    “We have every kind of mix you can have. I have a black, I have a woman, two Jews and a cripple.”

  • kritt11

    Thanks for letting me know. Maybe we can organize a boycott.

  • ksb43

    This makes me want to barf.

    Yet another example of young, attractive women being “judged” by an obese, loudmouth male.

    I’d feel much better about this if Rush participated in the swimsuit competition.

  • DLS

    “Thanks for letting me know. Maybe we can organize a boycott.”

    It’s post-2001, and it probably won’t go over well to set off a stink bomb or commit some other sabotage.

  • superdestroyer

    VeratheGun,

    Did you barf when young women were being judged by an obese, loudmouth gay man who had appeared in gay porn. You selective outrage is very hypocritical.

  • DLS

    Vera — I suspect your politics are really behind your being at risk of doing a one-eighty.

    And I will ask, in passing: Do you feel the same way about someone like Roman Polanski, instead?

    • ksb43

      No, in fact, you fellas are wrong on all counts. As usual.

      Miss America in all forms makes me want to barf. And that has been a long standing position of 25+ years. There is no “selective outrage” here. I have no idea if there was discussion about last year’s Miss America pageant on this site. But if there was, I am sure there was a spirited debate.

      What in the world does Roman Polanski have to do with Miss America?

      For the record, Polanski is exactly where he belongs–in jail, for fleeing from justice.

      Gee, I must have hit a nerve with Rush’s fans.

  • Vera The Gun. . .i can so hear what you are pointing to. . .what this is all about is glamor and nothing wrong with glamor, and it is set up by such plastic standards. . .but beauty is so much more than hot chicks in “pretty” packages. . .if only we lived in a culture that had not neglected Beauty. . . if one where to do a study of Beauty in the great works of literature, or blessed with eyes to see Beauty. . .we would all be down on the floor laughing or perhaps crying for what comes from Rush’s mouth in any given appearance is such coarseness, grasping, imbalance, and disunity. . .all of which is such antithesis to true Beauty. . Watching Miss America and calling that True Beauty is watching Love Boat and calling that True Love. . .it they would just change the word to ‘glamor pagent’ i would stop itching and perhpaps Rush could judge that world of phony and be the kingpin for such. . .

  • rachelmap

    Rush was forced to resign from his gig as a sports announcer because of a racist crack at Donovan McNabb. I wouldn’t say that it was a mistake for ESPN to have hired him in the first place; he hadn’t–as far as I know–been notorious for making that kind of remark about minority athletes previous to that. But that the Miss America Beauty Pageant would choose him as a judge after his long record of misogyny? That is a serious lapse of judgment on their part. They may as well have announced to the world, “We have long been suspected of thinking of women as sex dolls and not as human beings. The people who thought that were right.”

    • superdestroyer

      Rush Limbaugh’s comment on the NFL was about the political correctness of the media and had nothing to do with black players. It is that the media has a double standard when it comes to covering black quarterbacks and white quarterbacks. What is interesting since that time is the number of black quarterbacks has gone down and several very high draft picks like Vince Young and Demarcus Russel have been total busts. In the long run, Rush was closer to the truth than his critics.

      • rachelmap

        So, do you think Limbaugh is a good choice to judge the Miss America Beauty Pageant? That is the topic, after all.

        Edited to add: I accidentally clicked in the “like” button when I went to reply to your post. Please disregard it the “like”.

  • kritt11

    This is just another sign that the hate-monger shock jock is moving into mainstream society, infecting all of our institutions and traditions. Selecting him just gives him the legitimacy that he yearns for but does not deserve.

    • superdestroyer

      You mean like having Jerry Springer judge the Miss America pageant? If you are complaining about Rush LImbaugh then did you also complain about Jerry Springer?

  • kritt11

    For the record SD, I didn’t know that Jerry Springer was a judge of the pageant. But if someone like Howard Stern was judging I would feel the same way.

  • DLS

    Susan — this quite liberal Web site defines “moderate” (or “centrist”), if not “right-wing” to be Brookings.

    (Barbara Boxer is a typical “moderate” by this site’s norm.)

    As for the hatred directed routinely toward Limbaugh, and professional sports, we’re now seeing the political savaging of Limbaugh because he might become an NFL team owner or part-owner, and so is subjected already to hatred, which, as usual, involves the typical, hypocritical bogus charges against Limbaugh (and so many people to the right of Barbara Boxer) as representing “hatred” [sic].

  • Does anyone get all squicked out by the thought of Rush having power over a bunch of hot 19 year old women in bikinis? ‘Cause it’s giving me a case of the creepies.

    • rachelmap

      I did. When I heard the news, I had a sudden mental image of a malignant heathen idol ogling his yearly tribute of scantily-clad sacrificial virgins.

  • kritt11

    DLS- what goes around comes around.

    Rush has savaged the left for 3 hours a day for 20 years and is making 400 mill doing it- what a dream job. He’s not accountable to anyone and his rants don’t have to based on reality because he’s an “entertainer”. For 8 years he defended an administration that came close to destroying America, but if anyone has the nerve to notice that in the media or in the WH, his ratings only improve.
    Why should an anti-feminist judge the Miss America pageant? His misogynistic rants against women should knock him out of the running.
    He’s the male Ann Coulter— they thrive and profit on the white man’s outrage, anger and discontent.

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