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Posted by on Jul 29, 2011 in At TMV, Breaking News, Economy, Politics, Society | 16 comments

House Passes Boehner Bill

The US House has just passed the Boehner bill by a 218-210 margin.

The odds of it going any further are about the same as my odds of playing power forward in the NBA.

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  • dduck

    It’s a start……………..

  • AARON ASTOR

    It’s a start in that it is a bill that Reid can convert into something palatable – by stripping all the substantive language from it and replacing it with something else. That’s important because it shaves off 30 hours on the Senate clock if he has a House bill in hand.

    The real action is now – Reid, McConnell, Boehner and Obama need to figure out what can a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate and 218 votes in the House. There will be some strange bedfellows in the final tally. The CBC and Tea Party will oppose the conference report in the House. But we are close enough to the deadline that wavering legislators can be pulled into the tent.

  • Allen

    The BBA is the stupid part. It’s so partisan it’s unbelievable.

    I see default on Tuesday.

  • Rome burns. Republicans continue to fiddle.

  • DLS

    Actually, clear-minded liberals and partisan Dems would say that the House GOP is burning Rome (not content merely to sack it).

    As I’ve said before, a balanced budget amendment is sound and long overdue, but has nothing to do per se with lifting the debt limit nor even necessarily with budgeting, but for some odd reason(s) the GOP in the House is persisting, and it’s futile.

    The Wall Street Journal’s take is pretty good on it, even if you discount its tendency sometimes toward Northeastern establishment tones and even elitism (e.g. Ross Perot, going to a multi-party system with proportional representation, ending the Duopoly).

    Political logic and perhaps even common sense seem to be prevailing within the House GOP after Thursday’s debt-ceiling vote was postponed—at least among most of the caucus. The shame is that the debt-limit absolutists have weakened Speaker John Boehner’s hand in negotiating a final bill with Senate Democrats. […]

    Amid this “baseline” confusion, we wish House Republicans had used this debate to reform Washington’s fiscal hall of mirrors. Baseline budgeting is a rigged game, with spending increasing automatically each year above the rate of inflation. Anything below that inflated baseline is then called a “cut.” Even Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo took on these automatic spending formulas when he set out to tame the New York budget.

    Instead of such a useful reform, a GOP faction is fixated on a balanced budget amendment. After Thursday’s stall, the new Boehner plan will only authorize the second tranche of debt if two-thirds of both chambers pass such an amendment and send it to the states for ratification. This will not happen. […]

    The main result of this pointless crusade has been to damage Mr. Boehner’s leverage and push the final debt-limit increase in Mr. Reid’s direction. The Speaker may now have to seek the tender mercies of Nancy Pelosi to get a final bill through the House, and who knows what her price will be.

    The debt-limit hobbits should also realize that at this point the Washington fracas they are prolonging is harming the Republican image. The GOP is not coming off as adults to whom voters might entrust the government.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904888304576476153557599820.html

  • Allen

    I think NPR stated that the bill passed only allowed 800B debt ceiling rise. Plus a BBA, that requires two thirds majority to pass. Ain’t gonna happen, not by Tuesday anyway.

    I saw a nasty screaming argument at the supermarket an hour ago. You guessed it, Republicans vs. Democrats. This is more than a fiscal crisis. This is a partisan War. The more people start hurting, the meaner it’s going to get. Emailed my teabilly congressman twice, but no answer. I feel helpless.

  • DORIAN DE WIND, Military Affairs Columnist

    Breaking News Alert
    The New York Times
    Friday, July 29, 2011 — 8:38 PM EDT
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    Senate Tables Boehner’s Debt Ceiling Bill

    The United States Senate quickly dispatched the debt ceiling bill passed by the House Friday evening, tabling the Republican bill indefinitely and moving quickly to start consideration of a Democratic plan that would avoid default on Tuesday.

    Less than two hours after House Speaker John A. Boehner pushed his bill through the House over the strenuous objections of nearly two dozen of his own Republican members, the Democratic leadership in the Senate followed through on their promise to kill his legislation.

    But the move now sets up an uncertain 72 hours as the Congress moves ever closer to the Tuesday deadline when the Treasury Department says the country will default on its financial obligations without an increase in the debt ceiling.

    Read More:
    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/29/senate-tables-boehner-bill/?emc=na

  • PATRICK EDABURN, Assistant Editor

    I’m a little disappointed nobody defended my athletic skills LOL

  • Absalon

    This is a bill meant to preserve Boehner’s ass rather than the ass of US citizens. Democrats should in no way honor the bill whatsoever. I am a bit ashamed that they even bothered to ignore it.

  • dduck

    Harry Reid beat you at at power forward, perhaps net straightener for the NHL.

  • DLS

    No budget agreement, they’ll just write a one-page bill to raise the debt limit, and pass it and get Obama to sign it in one day.

    If they don’t do that, they’re really stupid.

  • LOGAN PENZA

    And the Democrats, who control 1/2 the legislature as well as the White House, won’t even fiddle.

    But I understand. They get a pass. As usual. And they KNOW they will get a pass, so they have no incentive to do anything but continue to sit on their hands.

  • DLS

    Well, Logan, their fellow liberals and Democrats thoroughly populate or have thorougly colonized the media, after all.
    (as well as academia and government)

    They remain stupid about entitlements, the core of the federal government’s problem, which is excessive and loose spending.

    The road to hell (or at least fiscal perdition):

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903999904576470551476951590.html

  • Absalon

    “But I understand. They get a pass. As usual. And they KNOW they will get a pass, so they have no incentive to do anything but continue to sit on their hands.”

    This from a guy defending the party that is taking the US economy hostage unless it gets a bill that is more right-wing than even its voters desire.

    The democrats shouldn’t clean up your mess, Logan. You need to take responsibility for ONCE in your paltry and emotional political life.

  • dduck

    It’s OUR mess, created by excess spending by congresses controlled by both parties. What did you do today daddy, said the congressman’s little girl. He proudly responded, I did a lot of finger pointing and protected the economy from those that only worship big corporations and wealthy donors. Oh, Joey’s father said the same thing about finger pointing, except he said he was saving the economy from big old nasty governments and taxes on hot dogs and soda.
    What about Sally’s father, he asked. Oh, he just sits around pointing at everyone and refuses to vote.

  • JSpencer

    “Well, Logan, their fellow liberals and Democrats thoroughly populate or have thorougly colonized the media, after all.(as well as academia and government)”long before it is in any way partisan. Govt in general leans to the right, and academia only leans liberal because higher learning and pursuit of knowledge have an inherently liberal bias.

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