There is something fundamentally skewed that we want to "spread democracy" through bloodshed, but refuse to accept its practice if we do not agree with the will of their people.

Hugo Chavez is dead. The poor of Venezuela loved him. The rich of Venezuela despised him. Modern American media (after Chavez visited the UN and told some unc0mfortable truths about Bush the Dumber and the smell of sulfur) got the message and put the “Full Castro” treatment on him.

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Chavez and his “judges” – guess which one did MORE
for their fellow citizens, by several light years …

Naturally, the haters, the sleazebuckets who claim the mantle of “patriots,” without understanding our government, the Usual Suspects, will now proceed to piss on Chavez’ grave and make witty (?) commentary about the passing of this “monster.”

HUGO CHAVEZ, FIERY VENEZUELAN LEADER, DIES AT 58
Frank Bajak / Associated Press

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — President Hugo Chavez, the fiery populist who declared a socialist revolution in Venezuela, crusaded against U.S. influence and championed a leftist revival across Latin America, died Tuesday at age 58 after a nearly two-year bout with cancer….

“Leftist” revival? And, after what WE did in Chile in 1973, these “journalists” have the gall to  … oh well.  “Free press” and all that rot.

I guess I’m just Old School: his people voted overwhelmingly for him (in fair elections), and I am NOT qualified to overturn their judgment of their leader.

Clearly I lack the hubris to do so, and shall, therefore, remain silent. Requiescat in Pace, Mr. Chavez.

There is something fundamentally skewed that we want to “spread democracy” through bloodshed, but refuse to accept its practice if we do not agree with the will of their people.

I look forward to your letters.

But … just remember WHY Salvador Allende died in Chile in 1973 before pretending the USA has some great moral superiority.

Courage.
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I’m not one celebrating his death and the people of any country have a right to choose their leaders.

Having said that I was not a fan of his desire and efforts to suppress opposing views (such as closing opposition radio and TV stations, threatening to jail opposition newspaper publishers, etc)

Nor of his support for terrorist nations like Iran and NK.

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zephyr
3 years 6 months ago

There is something fundamentally skewed that we want to “spread democracy” through bloodshed, but refuse to accept its practice if we do not agree with the will of their people.

Skewed is right. Sure, Chavez had his shortcomings, he went on anti-America rants regularly and made decisions more befitting a dictator than the leader of a democracy, but he also cared about the poorest people in his country and actually did reduce poverty, which is why he is being mourned by so many people there. Of course the Hugo haters are moved as much by propaganda as they are by realities, afterall, he didn’t cozy up to the USA did he. No, he was far from a perfect leader, but we in the US should be able to relate to that eh? Think glass houses, stones, etc.

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Willwright
3 years 6 months ago

I agree with Patrick and I think hate is too strong a word for Hugo. About the only thing good I can say about Hugo is that he did try to help the poor. The downside was his strong authoritarian tendencies and his complete mismanagement of everything else including the economy and the sustainability of his help to the poor. The bonanza the country received in the last 10 years or so from higher oil prices has not produced anything that will last or is sustainable for the people. Where would the people be if at least part of that money had been invested in building something lasting? My guess is that they would be much better off today than they are. The country today is a basket case on many levels thanks to his decade plus rule of mismanagement.

zephyr
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zephyr
3 years 6 months ago

At least he didn’t lead his country into a bogus 3 trillion dollar war killing upwards of a hundred and fifty thousand people and maiming god knows how many others – and then retire comfortably to an affluent and unaccountable lifestyle.

The_Ohioan
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The_Ohioan
3 years 6 months ago
Willwright
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Willwright
3 years 6 months ago

Zephyr, what you say is true but I don’t think it has much to do with the subject under discussion.

rudi
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rudi
3 years 6 months ago

Love or hate Chavez, it is none of the USA’s business what our neighbors do for their governance. We can support our friends in the Americas, and ignore our non-friends…

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dduck
3 years 6 months ago

I got the feeling that Chavez was more of a buffoon than an evil person, even though he did some nasty things. He hated the banana republic sponsoring countries, like the U.S and the national companies that often take advantage of smaller counties and their people.
Am I glad he is gone? I guess, if a better government with more evenly distributed democracy and freedom comes in benefiting more people, I am.

zephyr
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zephyr
3 years 6 months ago

Willwright, my comment was about credibility. We as a country need to be careful about being too self righteous when criticizing others. As I said, glass houses, stones, etc. I wish the people of Venezuela the best.

Barky
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3 years 6 months ago

Never liked him, he was not at all good for his people and was not a fan of liberty.

Having said that, we are “allies” with far worse regimes and had no business criticizing him like we did.

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bluebelle
3 years 6 months ago

Chavez was at best a mixed bag. I guess I’m wondering what chance a nationalist leader in the Western hemisphere has of getting out from under the giant thumb of the US.
Are we forcing independent leaders into the arms of NK or Iran by refusing to grant them legitimacy??

“There is something fundamentally skewed that we want to “spread democracy” through bloodshed, but refuse to accept its practice if we do not agree with the will of their people.”

That, imho, is just brilliant.

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