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Posted by on Dec 15, 2012 in Featured, Politics, Religion | 21 comments

Hack Of The Day

Preacher turned Governor turned Presidential Candidate turned millionaire political hack Mike Huckabee knows why the massacre at Shady Hook Elementary School happened – his god was unhappy.

Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee attributed the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in part to restrictions on school prayer and religious materials in the classroom.


“We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we have systematically removed God from our schools,” Huckabee said on Fox News, discussing the murder spree that took the lives of 20 children and 6 adults in Newtown, CT that morning. “Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage?”

Law enforcement has released few details on the alleged gunman, but Huckabee suggested that the separation of church and state may have spurred his rampage.

So his angry god allowed 20 young children to be killed  because it was not getting enough attention.  Sorry Mike, I want no part of such a god.  I am sad to see what you have become.  When you first came on the national scene I didn’t agree with your religious views but you seemed to be a populist kind if nice guy.  Those millions you get from FOX have turned you into a Pat Robertson with a bigger congregation.

Great post by Tom Levenson at Balloon Juice:

In other words: Twenty-eight deaths, including the murder of twenty kids, was the fault not of the shooter, nor of a gun lobby that portrays military weapons as household tools. Rather, said Huckabee, it was your fault and mine for having failed to appease his angry god by public worship in school.
Saying so is to implicate not just America at large in the crime. It also adds up to a claim that those involved in the Sandy Hook Elementary School in particular were complicit in this massacre, for the banishment of one deity or another occured in that particular school too. Lost a kid? Too bad. Shoulda prayed harder; shoulda held up a cross; shoulda, coulda, sorry old chum.
I can’t begin to write the rage and disgust I feel for that sanctimonious shit. (Whether the word “shit” in that sentence applies to the man or the thought I’ll leave it to the reader to decide.) I want to say that it seems to me that there is a special place in hell Mike Huckabee.


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  • Momzworld

    This is very nearly blasphemous of Huckabee. God, by His very nature, does not perpetrate and distribute evil.

  • ordinarysparrow

    Lets get real…We humans create this kind of HELL and has nothing to do with God… absolute zero to do with whether there is prayer in school or not…God does set up, contribute to this kind of sickness, neither covert or overt does God allow 20 little First Graders and those that care for them to be gunned down over separation of Church and State….Huckabee and those that speak like this are full of stupidity….This is the fault of a very sick individual and a culture that allows NRA with its lobbying power that has turned guns into idols of worship… as one TMV writer said.

  • sheknows

    Huckabee has lost it! He is saying that because we have removed prayer from our schools, we brought His wrath upon us.

    Does he sincerely believe that if those beautiful, innocent children had prayer in their schools ( nevermind their lives), the” devil” would have been prevented from entering by some divine forcefield?!?! Or that the gunman was “upset” about the seperation of church and state and randomly picked a school to exact his anger?!?!

    He is clearly a very disturbed man.
    I pray the families of those lost to this horror never even hear what he said.

  • Momzworld

    I agree with you, Sparrow. If one were to bring the church into the discussion, from where I sit it has lost both its mission and its message. An example is the studious turning a blind eye to the rise in divorce and infidelity among its congregants, believing that it is more important to condemn divorce and those who fall victim to this destructive issue in our society. Divorce is an action that leaves deep scars on the children involved who get no vote. What follows for them is a childhood of traveling back and forth between their father’s home and their mother’s, and sooner or later, they have a stepmother and stepfather who very often have children of their own. It doesn’t always work like the Brady Bunch, believe me. The church’s prevailing attitude of condemnation rather than shelter, counsel and encouragement has added greatly to the problem of broken families in this country to my mind. It is entirely possible that some children caught in this kind of disruption can struggle unnoticed for years until suddenly something snaps. Shame on Huckabee and all others like him.

  • ordinarysparrow


    God does{NOT} set up or contribute to this kind of sickness, neither covert or overt does God allow 20 little First Graders and those that care for them to be gunned down over separation of Church and State…

  • KP

    Wow, Ron Beasly took the Governor so far out of context he could probably have made President Obama’s (a believer) address to the entire nation with heartfelt prayers, scripture readings and closing rearks of “God bless the kids”, sound bad.

    What’s wrong with some of the far left? This type behavior is no different than what they accuse the far right of doing.

  • sheknows

    KP..I am curious. What EXACTLY did Huckabee say? What I read online is very similiar to Rons’ post.

  • sheknows

    “maybe we should call Him in on the front end and we wouldn’t have to call Him in on the aftermath” How are you interpreting that? The articles I read also found his meaning to be vry clear.

  • God, guns and murder have one thing in common: they are all human constructs.

  • sheknows

    Even Nietzche said “IF.. no God existed, man would create one”

  • sheknows

    Also hate to ruin your constructs, but murder is not only a human act. Many animals kill for no reason. Killer whales attack seals and toss them around til death as sport. Primates have shown jealousy and killed for that reason. Male tigers will murder their cubs to reduce competition for territory. etc etc.

  • bluebelle

    This is the reason that religion should be a private matter-and not one for political hacks to expound on. Manipulation of the faithful is just too easy and its sickening to see guys like Huckabee use a tragedy like this in an effort to end the separation of church and state.

  • KP

    @sheknows I am not offended by Obama’s references to the bible or Huckabee’s references to God. I am not offended by believers or non believers. I am offended by people twisting words to suit political ideology or projecting meaning that is inaccurate to score political points.

    Another example: when President Obama gave the speech where he said “you didn’t build that”, the right went off and him. I thought they took him out of context and it bothered me. I am guessing it bothered you too.

  • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

    Easily can see the implication in Hackabee’s words. He’s on same page as pastor fred, only different venue, and sometimes sotto voce. Both believe the same thing at root… a malicious and punitive god who murders people, including children.

    For old believers, their grandstanding for cameras is not faith. It’s grandstanding… to be seen. Holy Scripture has a great sense of such displays: calls them the daveners who daven away non-stop, but do not know the mind of G-d. Good enough for me.

  • KP

    Well, Dr. Estes, I am certain I am not always right. We saw many people who took Obama at his word when he said “you didn’t build that”. It seems to me a sign or a symptom. It says a bit about where each of reside philisophically. In the two examples I give, some very bright people (including yourself) disagree with me. Peace.

  • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

    KP, also, please read the ‘commenters rules’ that are at the top of the home page. Keep to the topic –not the writer, not other commenters, and all is well and will be well.

  • KP

    Thanks for the reminder.

  • The_Ohioan

    I think to be fair, you must go to the first link to TPM and listen to what Mr. Huckabee actually says. He certainly is not saying a vicious God is exacting vengance; in fact he says the exact opposite.

    What he is stating is that accountability for one’s action is no longer taught in school. That, of course is not the case, but what is true is that accountability to a God is not taught in schools nor should it be. His vision that schools should use religious materials to teach ethics is rejected by both Supreme Court decisions and by rational people who understand that ethics have been a part of human culture since the Greek philosophers debated them at the beginning of our western civilization. Other civilizations have many of the same ethical boundries.

    It is not unreasonable for a man of God to believe that everyone should act as though their actions are to be judged by God. Thinking that everyone who doesn’t believe that is acting without any moral guidance is the shortsightedness that affects many evangelicals. If Mr. Huckabee uses it to run for office (I’ve seen no evidence of that) it will be judged and found wanting by most of the electorate. Mr. Huckabee falls into the error of most evangelicals that he has the answers and must convince everyone else of their rightness.

  • KP

    @The_Ohioan An objective and wise response. I agree on all counts. Thanks for taking your time to make it.

  • ordinarysparrow

    This kinda relates? Just read this and wondered if a solution for this kind of stupidity could be found for others, as in what is occurring with Anonymous Hacks and the Fred Phelps- Westboro Baptist Haters…

    Right or wrong i rather appreciate the Anonymous Hacks on this one…

  • The_Ohioan

    First amendment rights are for everyone unless they are yelling fire in a crowded theater when there is no fire. The Phelps crew are mostly lawyers and this is how they make their living – by suing those who attack their free speech rights. Everyone knows where they live. If you want to write or call them it’s easy enough to do. Annonymous has no right to publish private information of anyone. We can do without one more vigilante group in this country.

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