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Posted by on Nov 7, 2011 in Politics | 22 comments

Fourth Woman Surfaces With Cain Sexual Harrassment Allegation: Hires Gloria Allred

The ongoing story involving former Godfathers Pizza CEO and front-runner-in-many-polls Republican Presidential candidate wannabe Herman Cain is proving to have legs: apparently two more. A new, fourth woman has reportedly surfaced to claim Cain sexually harrassed her and she has hired high-profile attorney Gloria Allred.

And, unlike the others, she will be talking to the press soon — with Allred by her side:

A new woman alleging sexual harassment by presidential hopeful Herman Cain will break her silence at a news conference with her powerhouse attorney Gloria Allred Monday afternoon in New York City, is exclusively reporting.

The embattled GOP nominee has admitted that several women who worked at the National Restaurant Association during his tenure as president of the organization received settlements. Politico has reported that the settlements were given because of sexual harassment allegations.

The woman, who will be the first to go public on Monday, sought Cain’s help with an employment issue and was allegedly sexually harassed by him. Allred and her client will discuss, in detail, what she alleges occurred with Cain.

The Tea Party darling had hoped the scandal would die down, but that’s not happening. Once again, he clashed with reporters on Saturday night after a debate with Newt Gingrich. Cain refused to answer questions about the allegations, and said, “You see what I mean? I was gonna do something that my staff told me not to do and try to respond, okay? What I’m saying is this — we are getting back on message, end of story. Back on message. Read all of the other accounts. Read all of the other accounts where everything has been answered in the story. We’re getting back on message, okay?”

Over the weekend Cain put forth a somewhat exotic reply to reporters who keep peppering him with questions: he suggests the reporters who ask him tough questions are violating a reporters’ Code of Ethics

In fact, there is an informal but quite operative and pervasive Code of Employment that covers the bulk of print and broadcast reporters which states that He or She who doesn’t pursue a story unflattering to a public official just because the official says he/she doesn’t like it or insists he/she won’t talk about it will have to leave the job and go somewhere else.

In this case, the surfacing of a fourth woman means the story will most assuredly be kept alive. This further means:

*Cain will have many Republicans still rally to him.

*At least one poll shows the scandal has eroded his support and he will not be able to undo this erosion.

*He will be damaged goods if he gets the nomination, although Republicans will and can point to Bill Clinton’s escapades before he was nominated.

But this ensures the story will continue — and is likely to emerge in one form or another in future GOP debates.

Another danger for Cain: he had emerged as a kind of latter day, sunny dispositioned Ronald Reagan to some. Continued clips of him battling
with reporters and more stories of women alleging inappropriate behavior on his part will not help him expand his existing base.

With this new story, Newt Gingrich — most likely the next Anti-Romney poised to rise in the polls — must be smiling.

-Michelle Malkin:

As much of a despicable publicity-seeker as the Paris Hilton of Lawyers is, it’s a mistake to completely write off Allred before the presser. The last time we saw her, I must remind you, she was attached like a barnacle to the side of one of Anthony Weiner’s sexting pals. And we know how that all — rightly — ended.

That said, while Cain botched the initial response to Politico’s vague story and the race-card playing by all sides has been over-the-top, the scandal qua scandal has so far been a dud.

Andrew Sullivan:

Finally having a face and someone able legally to give us specifics about allegations against Cain will change things. But an obvious question – not answered in the reports I’m currently reading – is why she did not file a charge at the time. If it begins to look as if money is involved, then Cain could pull a Clinton – and survive.

Ben Smith:

Gloria Allred’s entrance into the Herman Cain scandal marks a new phase, one in which people are likely looking to get paid. (The Los Angeles lawyer isn’t best known for her pro bono practice.)

This should, in principle, harden Cain’s support among his defenders. After all, if it was difficult to pin political motives on women who filed complaints a decade ago and then refused to discuss them, it’s not so hard to pin a pecuniary motive on people whose press conferences with Allred leak to radar.

And yet: Ask Governor Whitman and Rep. Weiner how encounters with Allred usually turn out.

Her ubiquity in these cases is astonishing and, presumably, the result of new potential clients watching previous performances appreciatively.


As Talking Points Memo points out, Allred has already spoken out about the scandal, telling The Hill last week that she saw “a lot of inconsistencies” in Cain’s statements about the settlements and allegations.

This scandal was one of the biggest stories of last week and it will be interesting to see how much more interest the media and public has for it. At the beginning, the story didn’t seem to be affecting Cain too much but, recently, it has begun to take its toll.

Really, we’re just hoping this press conference will feature someone doing something filthy with a pizza slicer.

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  • John Johnson

    He wouldn’t have been the Repub candidate anyway. Much ado about nothing. Egotistical, inebriated, high acheivers have been hitting on underlings for thousands of years…and, in many cases, conniving, media and/or money seeking females have lied about and exaggerated verbal exchanges between themselves and their bosses. A bold woman, who has the strength to put up with public scrutiny and the press has a decided advantage if all she wants is money.

  • roro80

    Reaching up a woman’s skirt and pushing her head toward one’s crotch is sexual assault — not harassment. Whether true or not, it’s probably a good idea to call the allegations by the correct name.

  • DORIAN DE WIND, Military Affairs Columnist

    Good point, roro

  • Allen

    This is really disgusting political behavior. Obviously none of these allegations are true. Allred is nothing better than a “high profile” ambulance chaser for cheesy people seeking a paycheck they never earned.

  • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

    allen, how are you determining none are true? Just asking.

  • rudi

    Allen is trolling his love of Cain. Maybe he wishes Cain reached up his shorts and pushed Allen’s head into the Cain Crotch…

  • sentry

    Maybe if either of California’s Senators retire, Allred can run for office.

    Hold your stomachs, everybody.

  • John Johnson

    Dr. Clarrisa…how does anyone know if they are true or not? He’s been tried and convicted in the media, and here for that matter.

    I know a young man whose employee filed a sexual harrasment charges against him. The case was misfiled as sexual assault, which cost him about $15,000 to get a bond posted.
    His attorney cost him $40K; he lost his job; he lost his license to practice; and his travel expenses back and forth from out of state for hearings was unbelievable. He had to borrow money, and he declared bankruptcy. He had others lined up to testify that what the woman was saying was false; He had phone records which showed he was texting people when she said all this occurred; but the D.A.’s office wanted him to plea bargin and kept putting off setting up a court date. When he forced a court date, the accuser would not show up to testify. Who is the victim in cases like my friend’s? Who is the victim in Cain’s situation? Lot’s of powerful people want to muddy his name, so they could have lined up double digit women to slander him. Don’t think this is the case, but it could be. No one knows, but everyone thinks they do.

  • dduck

    I’m afraid even McDonalds is taking advantage of Cain.
    The newest food entry, and a spite to Godfather’s Pizza, a competitor, is the McCainBurger (sorry John, just a coincidental name), it is a bullmeat patty surrounded on four sides by peperoni and infused with smoke for that outdoor barbecue look, with toasted buns of course.
    MSM, declines to try it unless it is smothered in caviar.

  • roro80

    John —

    Dr E didn’t say the allegations are definitely true. She questioned Allen’s statement that they definitely “obviously” aren’t true.

    I certainly don’t know if the women are telling the truth or not. I know that most women I know have been in similar situations as what is being described, had similar things happen to them. And a few men, too. Any given person might have a different response to such inappropriate and unwanted groping, but most of us have been through it at one point or another. So it certainly strikes a chord for many of us.

  • Allen

    Dr E-

    Because there is not a shred of evidence corroborating the accusations. None.

    Even though the restaurant association has cleared the path for these accusers to come forward in public, the accusers failed to step forward. No documents were signed by Herman Cain. No documents have been made public. There is absolutely no physical tie between the accusers and Herman Cain. Except that they both worked for the Restaurant association presumably at the same time.

  • roro80

    “Because there is not a shred of evidence corroborating the accusations. None”

    Looking for some video footage, Allen? There are, like, 5 women now. That seems fairly corroborating to me. It’s definitely not “obvious” that the allegations are untrue.

    “the accusers failed to step forward”

    Except for now they have.

    That we don’t have all the information doesn’t prove or disprove anything at this point.

  • Allen

    Rudi- Oh yes unless you agree with Rudi then you are the trol.

    There is NO EVIDENCE against Herman Cain.

    There is more evidence on this thread that YOU are a trol than exists against Herman Cain.

  • Allen

    Where are they Ro? Where are the accusers?

    Only one. Which also has NO evidence.

    Anybody can accuse anybody of anything. Means nothing.

    IMO the media has gone mad in their self-righteous self absorbed power to control the elections in this country with crap slander accusations.

    Post “what you have”.

    You Have NOTHING!

  • roro80

    The fact that YOU don’t know who they are doesn’t mean the don’t exist, Allen. She may or may not have evidence — we’ll see. Cain has already admitted that he’s paid out some settlement(s) within the context of the Restaurant Association. Again, I’m not saying that the allegations are definitely true, I’m saying it’s ridiculous to judge that they couldn’t possibly be true based on what the public knows at this time. I know you like the guy, but it’s quite possible that he did the things he’s accused of. I’m sure that we’ll know more as time goes on.

    I’m also sure that the other stupid things that Cain’s been saying will have an impact on what people think of him. The more he talks, the more it comes out that, sexual preditor or not, this guy would be a disaster.

  • roro80

    “You Have NOTHING!”

    Whoa, calm down there buddy.

  • rudi

    Allen – The women signed a NDA and left jobs they probably enjoyed. If the women came forward without NRA approval they would have to return their settlements…

  • Allen

    RoRo you are grossly mistaken or you don‘t care about the truth. I suspect the later.

    Herman Cain has admitted nothing of the sort. The restaurant association paid money to one of these accusers and signed a non-disclosure agreement of which Herman Cain never saw. Clearly the accusations were being covered up and the restaurant association paid out money to keep it covered up. Apparently to protect themselves. Now the accuser’s accusation is out, so they waved the non-disclosure agreement. Suddenly no women want to come forward except a bevy of nobodies having no substantiated and certainly no physical evidence.

    There is NOTHING!

    Nothing but people like you proliferating false accusations for political reasons. Part of the scourge of our democracy.

  • Allen


    Not true.

    The NRA withdrew the non-disclosure agreement. They are free to go public without repercussion. They won’t because they have nothing!


  • roro80

    See, the thing is that even “nobodies” in a bevy or not, are entitled to not be groped against their will. Actually the law doesn’t distinguish between the bodily autonomy of people you think have no worth and those who you personally think are entitled to the law’s protection. See how that works?

    And yeah, I’m sure that the NRA did want to protect themselves, including their president at the time, Cain.

  • CStanley

    I’m curious too what Allen thinks would possibly exist in terms of physical evidence. That’s kind of the whole point of the difficulty of resolving sexual harassment allegations, and even some cases of rape, because there is no physical evidence even if the alleged act happened exactly as the victim describes it.

    It all comes down to credibility- if there’s something about one party or the other’s story that isn’t consistent with known facts, then that would cloud the credibility of that person. Barring that, if it’s strictly he said- she said, then it comes down to the general reputation of each person and that’s why things get nasty with attempted character assassination.

    That’s what makes the whole situation problematic; it is a problem for women when they face situations that should be punishable but can’t prove what happened, and it’s problematic for men who can be falsely accused and have immense damage to their reputations (not to mention their bank accounts.) Frankly I think the only way to address the problem is to prevent situations, much like physicians and teachers do by always avoiding encounters with two people in any environment where an infraction could occur. I realize that may not always be practical, and certainly there are situations where two individuals know each other very well and have developed trust to know that neither an inappropriate sexual advance nor a false accusation will take place. Also, though, having ‘rules’ like I’m suggesting, whether written or unwritten, frankly wouldn’t be embraced by people who benefit from the current cloud of uncertainty (males and females who want to fool around with bosses and employees or coworkers, or those who want to take advantage of power differentials by either harassing or accusing.)

  • dduck

    For one thing, we can ascertain if Cain’s statement about an open door with his secretary outside is accurate/routine/rare, etc. Is anyone checking that out? Can they find his secretary?

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