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Posted by on Dec 11, 2012 in Economy, Politics | 11 comments

Cut But Don’t Cut My Stuff

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There’s Not A Single Spending Cut That Republican Voters Support

We have seen this in every poll – Republicans say they want to cut government spending but there isn’t anything they actually want to cut.

A look at what Republicans oppose:

  • By 47-37, letting the Obama payroll tax cut expire.
  • By 68-26, cutting spending for Medicare.
  • By 61-33, cutting spending for Medicaid.
  • By 66-28, eliminating the tax deduction for home mortgage interest.
  • By 72-25, eliminating the charitable tax deduction.
  • By 56-44, raising the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67.

Republicans don’t favor much in any potential deal — they also, of course, are opposed to allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire on any income bracket. Pollster Lee M. Miringoff warns that they might be unhappy with whatever happens.

“There’s no clear statement of what Republican voters want to happen. There’s opposition to everything,” Miringoff said.

Of course the bloated Defense budget is off the table.  This is a sign of American exceptionalism – an exceptionally broken country.

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  • SteveK

    As these numbers show that “Republican” voters are opposed (by mostly large majorities) the cuts their Republican “Representatives” are advocating WHO is it that the 112th Congress Republicans are “Representing”?

    Replies from “I still believe” Republicans would really help the rest of us understand.

  • sheknows

    I am sure we can find polls that are skewed to exactly what Republican congressional leaders are asking for. 🙂

  • So there was a report out there that Fox News watchers have, on average, lower IQs than purveyors of other media outlets. This is reflected here, obviously they, like, you know, can’t do math ‘n’ such.

  • zusa1

    Data from the poll comparing Democrat to Republican responses:

    Letting the Obama payroll tax cut expire D: 56-26 R: 47-37
    Cutting spending for Medicare D: 85-14 R: 68-26
    Cutting spending for Medicaid D: 83-16 R: 61-33
    Eliminating the tax deduction for
    home mortgage interest D: 69-27 R: 66-28
    Eliminating the charitable tax deduction D: 69-29 R: 72-25
    Raising the Medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67 D: 63-35 R: 56-44
    Let Bush tax cuts expire 200K/250K D: 20-75 R: 68-30
    Let Bush tax cuts expire everyone D: 66-32 R: 77-20

    Democrats don’t favor much in any potential deal — except they are, of course, for increasing taxes on “rich” people. Are they aware that won’t fix the problem?

  • zusa1

    BTW,the Business Insider reporter who wrote the original article graduated college May ’11 and also free lances in the NY Times sports section.

    And what a sacrifice the dem’s are making, voting for no cuts and only taxes on other people.

  • I heard it best described like this: “I know they both do it, but I choose to blame the Democrats” — you have to admire the honesty, at least.

  • The_Ohioan

    What a sacrifice all are making, expressing a preference for no cuts and no tax increases for themselves.

    Any reliable information on party affiliation would seem to be “fluid” at this point in time.

  • slamfu

    While raising the top tier rates won’t fix the problem, its certainly a step in the right direction, and an important one. It brings in more revenue, it comes from a source that isn’t likely to affect the consumer market spending, and although I think this isn’t the only reason to do it, comes from the bracket that can actually take the increase without any significant change to their lifestyle. As opposed to median income earners, for whom any additional taxes will likely come out of disposable income they would spend on goods and services.

    It does kind of irk me when people say that this won’t fix it. My thoughts are that no single move is going to fix it, and we shouldn’t be shooting things down unless they do. Each thing we can do that makes sense should be done. I think that the upper income brackets have been the only ones to see growth in income over the last 12 years, and the nation is in trouble. I plan to be in the bracket by the end of next year, and I don’t mind paying an additional 4.6% in federal on that considering the situation. Nor will such a minor increase deter me from struggling to get to that bracket. If it helps get the economy back on track, and the middle class who are my main customer base can spend more, I’m sure the overall increase in my business will more than make up for it. I’m a big believer in reverse trickle down.

  • zusa1


    “It does kind of irk me when people say that this won’t fix it”

    That was just a little push back to previous comments. Obviously revenues need to go up as part of the fix.

    Personally, I prefer focusing on cutting deductions as the first step towards a simpler tax system, designed to withstand special interest lobbying.

  • clarkma5

    I think there’s this myth of efficiency that drives a lot of this behavior. Republicans say, “we don’t NEED to spend all this money to get what we want, it’s being wasted in the bureaucracy!”. Somewhere in their imaginations is a mythical beast that can juggle every department of the government for pennies on the dollar by making thousands of federal jobs redundant.

    OK, that’s a bit facetious, but I think there is a drive to stamp down bureaucracy. In some areas this needs to happen (I will, for instance, challenge anyone to justify the TSA in pure economic terms) but in reality, bureaucracy is the cost of an open and transparent government. Forms signed in triplicate and databases updated is what gives us as citizens the ability to trace through what our government is doing. And I find it very interesting that with 20-30 years of “small government” thinking being the generally dominant force in Washington, that government transparency is fading and the US now only gets a C in the international rating on corruption and opaqueness prevention in government.

    In other words, what Republicans want isn’t a smaller government so much as a monarchy, whether they realize it or not. One unaccountable grand poobah who can dictate the functions of government is surely the most affordable way to get as much government for as little coin as possible, isn’t it?

  • clarkma5

    Also, when it comes to raising top tier tax rates to “fix” the budget deficit: no, it won’t fix it by itself, yes it’s a significant piece of the puzzle, and overall that really isn’t why it should be supported.

    Raising top tier tax rates is what needs to happen to stem the rising tide of income inequality and lower social mobility that is thrashing the happiness and well-being of the vast majority of US citizens. Raising the top tier tax rates is about getting investment into our society from the people who can most afford it; helping the budget is, to my mind, a secondary perk.

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