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Posted by on Apr 29, 2013 in Politics, Sports | 20 comments

Bryan Fischer: NBA Players Should Resist Being on Same Team with Jason Collins Because He’ll “Eyeball Them in Shower”

The right wing freak-out continues as the dust settles after Washington Wizards center Jason Collins comes out as a gay man. Well, I knew it was a matter of time before we heard from right wing evangelical Bryan Fischer. Watch out, Pat Robertson could be next. Bryan Fischer said that NBA players and their wives should loudly resist being on a team with Collins out of fear that he will be “eyeballing” them in the shower. SMH. What a dumbass.

Personally, I believe Jason Collins should be free to live as a gay man and not hide in a closet. I applaud him for having the courage to take a step forward and I hope he will help other young gays and lesbians live freely as themselves.

Bryan Fischer’s hypocrisy:

It’s equally shameful that ESPN’s Outside The Lines Chris Broussard is criticizing Jason Collins, saying that he wouldn’t “characterize [Collins] as a Christian.” He was pretty brazen to make such a comment in front of openly gay colleague LZ Granderson:

BROUSSARD: Personally, I don’t believe that you can live an openly homosexual lifestyle or an openly, like premarital sex between heterosexuals. If you’re openly living that type of lifestyle, then the Bible says you know them by their fruits. It says that, you know, that’s a sin. If you’re openly living in unrepentant sin, whatever it may be, not just homosexuality, whatever it maybe, I believe that’s walking in open rebellion to God and to Jesus Christ. So I would not characterize that person as a Christian because I don’t think the bible would characterize them as a Christian.

Here’s the video of Chris Broussard questioning Jason Collins’ faith:

This was cross-posted from The Hinterland Gazette.

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  • slamfu

    I’m totally on board with the religious right on this one. Mr. Collins is clearly making a mockery of the institution of professional basketball, possibly even all professional sports. C’mon Mr. Robertson let us know what to think!


    Slamfu — I don’t recall such outrage when Martina Navratilova came out in the 1980s or even former Baylor basketball star Brittney Griner, who came out last week. How is it a mockery? I am sure Pat Robertson will have something crazy to say on the 700 Club.

  • The_Ohioan


    I’m pretty sure slam’s comment was satire, but he’s more than capable of speaking to that. On the other hand, if Mr. Broussard is dubious about Mr. Collins’ status (and a heck of a lot of other people it seems) as a Christian, it will not damage Mr. Collins’ status, but will damage Mr. Broussard’s. As he says, by their fruits ye shall know them; now we know the status of Mr. Broussard’s Christianity but not Mr. Collin’s. Or Mr. Granderson’s

  • slamfu

    Yes, it was satire/snark/sarcasm. I obviously need to polish my skills a bit, perhaps Dduck will run a clinic for me.

  • rudi

    Too bad Breitbart/Shapiro doesn’t have a sense of humor.
    Note to Shapiro – Twelve years in the NBA is not common. Shapiro needs his Normandy moment in Afghanistan…

  • KP

    For almost everyone in the NBA this will be snooze news. Same for the NFL and MLB.

  • Willwright

    Bryan the kind of guy makes a big deal out of stuff like this, then five years later we find out he was buggering nine year olds in the shower or something equally appalling the whole time.

  • cjjack

    It is a radical step, but these guys – and any other winger who thinks a gay player will be “eyeballing” his teammates – need to be taken to the nearest gay bar…stat!

    Back when I was living in El Paso in the mid 90s, I was dating this girl who had plenty of gay friends, and so I got to spend more than a few nights in this place called the Old Plantation. The OP was well known for having the best DJs and drink specials in town, and more importantly they didn’t discriminate. It didn’t matter how heterosexual you were…if you paid the cover charge, you were welcome.

    It was, if I may be so bold, a fabulous place. And while I’d like to think that nobody ever hit on me because I was too busy dancing with my super-hot girlfriend, the truth is that nobody ever hit on me because I was so obviously straight.

    I had some great times and met some great people there and at the other gay club across the street (where a friend of mine was the DJ), but nobody ever tried to turn me gay because that’s not how it works.

    I’d take these two bigots to a place like the Old Plantation, have ’em look around for a bit and ask “are you in any way attracted to any of the men in this place? No? Great…because now you feel exactly what Jason Collins feels in a locker room full of straight guys. Next question?”

  • KP

    x2 cjjack …

    We could even go to another level all together. Lets say your life depends on co-operation with one another in the military theater. Sexual preference is not an issue.

    And in pro sports, these guys shoulder multi-million dollar contracts and don’t care who wants what in the bedroom. People have greater things on their mind than somebody else’s sexual preferenace.

    Team sport players in the NBA, MLB and NFL, along with soccer, understand getting along; and if they don’t they will shut it down or be out of a job.

  • KP writes: “Sexual preference is not an issue.”

    Except it’s not ACTUALLY a ‘preference’. Gays (either male or female) are pretty much born the way they’re born — it’s not their PREFERENCE who they choose to love — it’s an in-born orientation. Being a straight female, I’m orientated towards the opposite sex, I didn’t CHOOSE to be this way — my brother on the other hand, being gay, he’s orientated towards his own gender. He told me once that he tried to be straight — and having “necked with this woman friend”, had to go home and throw up. He said he “just couldn’t do it”. I understood entirely. There’s no PREFERENCE involved you see – nature just takes its course.

  • DORIAN DE WIND, Military Affairs Columnist

    Thanks for telling it like it is, brownies girl.

  • No — thank you Dorian — if even ONE person understands the difference between
    ORIENTATION and PREFERENCE — that goes a long way. And I know you understand the
    difference. Cheers dear man …..

    • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

      actually, on the spectrum of gay, so-called ‘straight’ and bisexual, it is both orientation AND preference… and a few other words as well. Gay and straight are very fluid for many. And ‘preference’ can be first order, but it can also be a secondary or tertiary choice for many different reasons including social decisions. Frankly, I prefer other words altogether rather than defining people supposedly by some faux idea of stable ‘this is it, and there is no more to say.’ There’s plenty more to say about persons of many many kinds of feeling, sexual and otherwise, for others. Just my .02

  • zusa1

    Why do we have separate facilities for men and women? I assume it is to provide a sexually neutral atmosphere to be comfortable in. I obviously don’t know Mr. Collins, but I imagine he will be going out of his way to not “eyeball” his team mates. I don’t think it is unreasonable though to accommodate any modest guys on the team (and I don’t think there is anything wrong with a straight man wanting to be modest in front of either women or gay men).

  • KP

    brownies girl, thanks for correcting me.

  • Reading this story, it dawned on me:

    — Lewd straight men will engage in sexual harassment against women
    — Lewd straight men thinks this is standard behavior. Most don’t even see anything wrong with it.
    — Therefore, lewd straight men thinks all men act this way.
    — Therefore, lewd straight men thinks gay men will act this way.
    — Therefore, lewd straight men will think gay men will automatically engage in various forms of harassment against other men.

    When you add this chain of logic to this story, you’ll see why Mr. Fischer says what he says:

  • ShannonLeee

    Dr E speaks the truth. People like to think of gay and straight as opposites like left and right, and that simply is not the truth. I know plenty of people that have dated both men and women. Which one they fall in love with tends to dictate how they sexually identify, even when they also find the other sex attractive.

    This is a big deal. Prof sports and the black community are still dealing with serious homophobia.

  • zusa1

    Barky, Couldn’t you also say:

    Straight men know some straight men are lewd.
    Therefore straight men assume some gay men will also be lewd?

  • zusa1, your post is describing a valid, sane thought process, especially with the clarifying “some”. My post is describing the viewpoint of someone who’s, well, let’s just say a wee bit shy of sane. 🙂

  • roro80

    Ah yes, homophobia: the fear that a guy might treat you the way you treat women.

    But yes, of course some gay people are disgusting pigs. my guess is that being a disgusting gay harrassing jerk in a locker room full of mostly straight 8-foot-tall professional athletes is a poor decision all around. The straight players are not the ones for whose safety I fear given this announcement. Straight people are pretty uniformly not the ones subject to violence when someone comes out as gay.

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