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Posted by on Oct 12, 2016 in Crime, Guest Contributor | 19 comments

Been in 1000’s of Locker Rooms: Trump – It’s Not Vulgarity, It’s Criminality

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By Ron Pierre

My thoughts on Mr. Trump’s latest!

I am a strong, independent, hard working father and married to a great woman. I am also a professional athlete who has spent a great deal of time in the locker room.

I have grown to learn that the words of others cannot affect the value of my self worth nor define the content of my character.

How we treat one another, whether behind closed doors, locker rooms or face to face, should be done with kindness, dignity and respect.

Unfortunately, there are too many people in power who abuse their position and disregard these simple principles — and are rewarded for it!

In understanding the magnitude of this situation regarding Trump on a hot mic spewing vulgarities and denigrations, I choose to stand tall with self respect and use my voice to enrich, inspire and elevate the best of who we are as people.

Thus, I say: No female, no person, should be the subject of such crass comments, regardless if the cameras and recorders are rolling or not. Everyone deserves respect.

In my opinion, Trump’s comments condone sexual assault. They suggest that he cannot see his female colleagues as anything but collections of “ F!!!able or UnF!!!able body parts. His remarks exhibit a complete disregard for women’s humanity, agency, and internal lives.

Let’s be really clear. In my opinion, Mr. Trump had confessed on national television to committing a crime. It is called “ Sexual Assault.”

For example, if I were to go up to Donald Trump and grab his crotch and try to kiss him, I would go to jail. I would be arrested because I would have committed sexual assault and that is a crime.

Here is what is so disturbing to me: You have somebody who is running for President of the United States of America, the highest office in the land, who has confessed on tape to committing sex crimes and people are talking about it as if there was something wrong with his language. They are focusing on him using lewd speech.


What we all should care about is the activities, the deeds he is describing. He is describing sexual assault. He is describing being a sexual predator.

We have to be honest here! Can you just imagine if Barak Obama had done anything remotely close to what this man has done when Obama was running for President?

Obama would be done. Finished. Obama had to be perfect beyond perfect beyond perfect. Otherwise, he would have never been elected. They had to make up stuff about him. Some hinted that he was a Muslim terrorist, he was not born in the U.S because they couldn’t accept that he was a respectable, well educated and the most qualified among the nominees. Not to mention he was the first black man to ever run for the highest office in this country.

Notice how you can see criminality with young black men, innocent young black men ( most notably the New York 5 ) still seen as criminals by Donald Trump and by others and yet, here is a sexual predator hiding in plain sight attempting to be on his way to the White House –and nobody in power is calling him a criminal, nobody is calling him a thug, nobody is pointing out the behavior he has described, as unlawful.

What is amazing to me is that here we have a confession to a sex crime by a prominent person and no one appears to see it as a crime. They just see it as profanity.

Yet, he is still somehow going to be treated as somebody engaging in frat boy or locker room behavior.

Ladies and Gentlemen: Need I say more?

Donald Trump needs to realize women are the most precious gems and should be treated as such because without a woman, just one instance of women’s value — he wouldn’t exist.

He is a person who has no business running for any type of office, let alone the highest office in the land.

I will now leave you to ponder on these thoughts. Just from a regular, common sense type of person, who cares deeply about all humans.

Ron Pierre has been an Olympian competitor, is a consistent winner of gold, silver and bronze medals in Natural Bodybuilding International Competitions in which highly trained competitors come from across the world. He has been in more locker rooms than most, amongst both national and international athletes — without hearing anything even remotely resembling the criminal acts Donald Trump appears to have been bragging he was entitled to — as a ‘star.’

Image [by Peter Gonzales]: Ron Pierre, Trainer, Natural Bodybuilder, ©2105, by permission.

Disclosure: Ron Pierre is the son of best selling author and TMV Managing Editor Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estés , a/k/a Dr. E.

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  • dduck

    “We have to be honest here! Can you just imagine if Barak Obama had done anything remotely close to what this man has done when Obama was running for President?”
    Or Bill C?

    • JSpencer

      Bill C. paid the price. Also he isn’t running for office. Too hard to grasp? Evidently.

      • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

        it’s interesting at the moment that ‘ministers’ have moved in on dt, as they did on swaggert, b clinton, even warren jeffs.

  • Slamfu

    I think John Oliver said it pretty well when he pointed out that Trump wasn’t in a locker room when he said this stuff. And if you’re saying this stuff when you’re not in a locker room, then that is who you are. For the record, even if he was in a locker room he’s still bragging about sexual contact without consent so it doesn’t even rate as an excuse as is, but it shreds an already pathetic and threadbare justification for being a lecherous pig.

    • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

      good points Slamfu… you have discernment, differentiating this from this. Not everyone has that skill.


    To be clear, there is no excuse for what was exposed on the tape. But, Trump stopped short of admitting to a crime. He said “I can” or “I could”. He did not say “I have”.

    The actual conduct confessed to was his attempt to seduce a married woman, at which he failed. If one wanted to defend him, it could be said that he “took no for an answer.”

    The recording remains disqualifying because it shows, as the author points out, a complete disrespect for and sexual objectification of women, and he condones sexual assault even if he does not technically admit to it personally.

    BTW, it wouldn’t surprise me if reports of such actual conduct by Trump come out later in the campaign.

    • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

      the writer will have a different perspective as he is RCMP/SpOps. In Cn and Us, would likely follow due process, though somewhat dif in Cn as it is under Br law, then crim lawyer esteemed like you would argue for the defendant

  • KP

    Thank you for taking the time to share your comments, Ron. We see it very similarly.

    On a side note, great image. You would fit nicely on my wall where I see patients; right next to Muhammad Ali and former world record holder decathlete Jürgen Hingsen.

    • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

      ask and thou shalt receive. Thanks KP

  • Brownies girl

    The author writes:

    Donald Trump needs to realize women are the most precious gems and should be treated as such…

    Oh golly! Most women I know don’t want to be seen or treated as “the most precious gems” . Oh no, no, no! We don’t need or want to be set up on a pedestal. We simply want to be treated the same as other human beings. With respect and consideration. That alone would be enough.

    • JSpencer

      I know you’re not speaking to me Dr.E, but I agree 100% with your point of view. That said (here goes nothing) I grew up reading books about the days of old, King Arthur, Ivanhoe, and others with similar themes, so I may have been influenced a bit by the concept of chivalry.

      I grew up around some very strong women and know they are human beings and not precious gems, also grew up during the rise of feminism. But we’re all precious gems aren’t we? Well, most of us. 😉 Sorry, not trying to be obtuse here, but I’ve always thought (rightly or wrongly) that women as a rule were less potentially dangerous than men, and they certainly were more nurturing and compelling.

      Yes, women are capable of doing both terrible and wonderful things, just as men are, and I’m resorting to generalization here. Maybe I just tend to like women better than I do men. Fortunately, many exceptions exist.

      Apologies for the digression, but it’s possible I have an ulterior motive since I’m trying to put off my vacuuming. I am the housekeeper in this home. If I don’t do it, it won’t get done. ; )

      • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

        Thanks JSpencer, I find the use of metaphor good in most cases, for they are used often to indicate value that is of essence and not of face value alone.

        I think of King Arthur’s ethic, and how the men of the Round Table followed or did not follow the ethics and the lysis of their choices. One of the legends I love best is about the very long episodic quest of the gral/grail, in which a gemstone is given that is only moderate in size but that no amount of gold on the other side of the scales can meet in weight. That too, I find the idea of human beings as gemstones, of average size but carrying far more weight, is a mirror of the larger Self. I find that metaphor accurate and also beautiful.

    • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

      I think Bg, the cultural context of our writer is salient. He is an unusually gallant man who is Haitian. In Haiti the poetics of language about people is described thus, including women, and also in other lyric ways, by those who care about them. It isnt pedestal. It is realizing the value of. The community often uses phrases to describe both men and women that come from scriptural references in that culture.

      And I know what you mean.

      • Brownies girl

        Thanks for your response, Dr E., and my apologies to your son Ron, if I spoke/wrote out of turn. T’was not my intent to hurt his feelings, especially since honest-to-god real gallant guys are so incredibly hard to find these days. True too! I know, I’ve looked. (sigh)

        It’s just that it seems, these days, that women are either disregarded for whatever efforts and talents they possess in so many ways, or they’re put on a pedestal, (as precious gems to be honoured) — and neither place is comfortable by any means, at least for me. I just want the middle ground, Dr. E. I don’t want special treatment, I want FAIR treatment. I want recognition for the talents I have, that I’ve grown over the years and I want just plain recognition as a capable human being who’s never done any deliberate harm to anyone in her life. I want to be seen as equal, simple as that.

        To be ‘revered’ as a “precious gem”, just because I’m a woman seems to me to be so friggin’ patronising, it makes my skin itch and it makes me just a little … angry. “Screw that”, I say to myself, “I’m a human being without a penis, which doesn’t make me a weak person!” And I guess that’s what I was responding to.

        Am real sorry if I said/wrote the wrong thing … we women, and maybe you know it or maybe as an analyst you’ve grown past it — I don’t know — but sometimes, for a lot of us, it’s just like walking on friggin’ eggshells, getting through this life.

        If Ron is in Psyops with the RCMP, he’s MORE than made the grade – happy to have that gallant man on our side — please give him my best! You must’ve done a great job bringing him up! Congrats to the both of you!

        All best to you dear lady — BG

        • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

          You said nothing wrong. I get what you are saying and in spades about being treated fairly. I might say it slightly differently, I want parity in opportunity for all, and also reasoned justice for all. i think the world of you too BG, and I get it. And I will give Ron your best. Thank you.

  • JSpencer

    Excellent post. The voices of truth can never be raised enough! Thank-you Mr. Pierre.

    • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

      Thank you Joseph, I will tell Ron you said so. He will be glad you read his thoughts and find them good.

  • Dr. Arif Ahmad

    Very well written. Just like Michelle Obama’s speech, the hurt and disgust exude from the lines.

    • DR. CLARISSA PINKOLA ESTÉS, Managing Editor of TMV, and Columnist

      thank you Dr. A. I hope you will write about this also, as it is culturally not just euro or latin or asian or american culture that hides various hatreds against women, groups. It is not that less talk is needed, as some say, stop talking about x, it’s all been said before. It is that more talk is needed, I think, about decency, what it means, how one enacts it, about how a person thinks about existence that has worth, that has an ethic to hold to… ethic: prob at least,do unto others as thou would have others do unto thee… and also, I would like more visionaries, who are thinking, planning for the best for the most number of persons to live in peace. Pre-thought out, enacted consciously.

      I hope you will write about this topic of some setting examples of the least of the least, and how it could be instead, better. Even best.

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