It Depends On What the Meaning of “Repeal and Start Over” Is

A trend? Georgia Rep. Phil Gingrey (R):

“When we say start over, we don’t mean throw everything out – throw out the baby with the bath water. We mean, take the best of this bill and combine it with our ideas like buying insurance across state lines and equalizing the tax treatment and creating high-risk pools. “Of course, all of the language regarding electronic medical records I’m in favor of. So I might not fully agree with completely repealing and starting over.”

Newt Gingrich and Georgia Gov. Sonny Perdue are expected to challenge the constitutionality of the law at a joint press conference tomorrow at 10:30 a.m. And it looks like I won’t be alone in backing Regina Thomas in her July 20 primary challenge against Blue Dog John Barrow. Barrow voted no on the health care bill.

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  • DaGoat

    So I might not fully agree with completely repealing and starting over.

    I think you will see more of this from the GOP as the odds of repeal are slim to none. The toothpaste is out of the tube and you can't put it back in. The public will gradually become more accepting of the plan.

    It's funny that electronic medical records are a point of agreement since there is no evidence they reduce costs, improve efficiency or reduce errors in small or medium offices, or even in many hospitals.

  • Zzzzz

    Step out of your bubble and go talk to real people who don't 100% share your views. Most of the democrats you hate so much have no idea who Alinsky even is. Frankly, most of us weren't even born yet. The only time I EVER hear his name and his rules for whatever brought up is by rightwing conspiracy theorists like yourself (usually in the context of some radical action they are advocating). It is a cute trick, accusing the opposition of doing what you are doing, in order to justify your behavior.

  • Zzzzz

    There is evidence from the VA system that they reduce redundant testing. Testing, and physician profits from them, is one of the drivers of increased medical costs.

  • DaGoat

    There is evidence from the VA system that they reduce redundant testing.

    The VA system is hardly a proxy for private physicians offices.

  • DLS

    1. Repeal? The incrementalist ratchet has been moved. Is repeal truly serious? I doubt it, and if it were so, just wait until those who come to rely on any new entitlement see that as threatened. I don't believe there's a need to worry about repeal.

    2. The VA system isn't the model for today's medicine, or is it? While for our future it is a possible model for us in order to improve cost control over the Medicare model, which is what I believe we'd move to first in this country, VA has its supporters. It's not the old VA that was never referred to without also saying “horror story,” if you believe its defenders or supporters now. (Dorian de Wind, are you out there?)

    Perhaps, in addition to people with real-world experience in Europe, this neglected subject needs visiting.

    “The Best Care Anywhere”

  • VeratheGun

    Do you have any clue what you are talking about? Have you ever used electronic medical records in any meaningful way, shape or form?

    Because as someone who uses them constantly, I can tell you they save tremendous amounts of money in reducing the number of duplicate tests, reducing paperwork, reducing drug errors (HUGE), clerical hours, increasing efficiency of care, etc, etc.

  • DaGoat

    Do you have any clue what you are talking about? Have you ever used electronic medical records in any meaningful way, shape or form?

    Yes, I have used Cerner PowerChart for several years. I also downloaded and tested the VA VistA system which I found unimpressive. I have also tested several office-based systems.

  • Rudi

    If the Repugs were really serious about HCR, why didn't they pass it along with Medicare Plan D? Maybe pandering to seniors voters and their teabagger base is what they're all about.