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Posted by on Oct 19, 2016 in Politics | 11 comments

Donald Trump confirms that he is a danger to our democracy

DebateThere are many things one could say about tonight’s presidential debate but there is probably only one thing everyone will be talking about tomorrow. When asked directly by debate moderator Chris Wallace if he would accept the results of next month’s presidential election, Donald Trump said, “I will look at it at the time.” (Apparently some members of the audience gasped when he said this).

Certainly we have been listening to Trump talk about how there is massive voter fraud across the country, despite no evidence to support this. We have listened to him speak of the election being rigged and might have anticipated he would express doubts about the fairness of the process once it was over, should he lose, which appears likely. But it was quite jarring to hear him say the words that he would not promise to accept the final results of the democratic process should his candidacy be unsuccessful.

The words that we will all hear said over and over again tomorrow are some variant these: The peaceful transfer of power is one of the most fundamental principles of American democracy.

Perhaps we will also hear many people say that a candidate who does not believe this is surely not qualified to be president of the United States.

There will be some discussion on various news sites and panel shows about Putin, reproductive rights, the treatment of women, Iran, Syria, ISIS, etc. Perhaps some will devote a few lines to how Hillary Clinton was her competent if somewhat dull self, and Donald Trump, though starting out more or less coherent, eventually became his typically obnoxious, blathering self. Steve Schmidt on MSNBC probably said it best when he described Trump as like an old man in the park feeding squirrels and arguing with himself.

But, again, Trump’s comments on perhaps not respecting the outcome of the electoral process confirms what we always knew. Donald Trump doesn’t understand what it means to love anything more than he loves himself. It is richly ironic that a candidate who promises to make American great again would endanger one of America’s most important ideals. That he would, in an earlier part of the debate, refer in such grand terms to the intentions of the framers of the Constitution only to later disrespect so much of what they intended for future generations with his noxious formulation, is beyond reprehensible.

So, Hillary won the debate. Donald Trump is an ass. He needs to go away, and soon.

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  • Shannon Lee

    Obviously the idea of not accepting the results and effectively encouraging some sort of revolt by this followers is terrible.

    I will say that Trump did exactly this during the Republican nomination. He refused to pledge to support the Rep nominee…on tv, during a debate. Republicans should not be shocked that he is now not pledging to accept the results of the general election. It fits his pattern of behavior. Reps bought their ticket on the crazy train…enjoy the ride.

  • dduck

    Poor Donald: Boris Badenov:
    “Those pigs! Those pigs!
    Natasha Fatale:
    Those pigs! Those pigs! What they do, Boris?
    Boris Badenov:
    They took my dynamite.
    Natasha Fatale:
    Those pigs! Those pigs!”

    • KP

      @dudck, you reminded me of Alexander Godunov. He created a bit of a bother at Bolshoi and was then badenov to defect in NY.

      He was Godunov in the movie “Witness” along with Kelly McGillis to set some hearts on fire. Drank so much it was badenov to kill him at age forty-five.

  • Ballard Burgher

    Josh Marshall nailed why Trump said this:

    “What I find notable is that Trump not only has little respect for our democratic institutions, his mindset and worldview makes it impossible for him to answer that question in a truly democratic, American way. For Trump, life is deal making and power plays. It’s dominance. Who negotiates with himself? Sure, I’ll probably accept the results but let me keep you guessing. Like anyone who deals in zero-sum adversary negotiations and operates in a mental world of dominance, the answer makes perfect sense. Why should I show you my cards when I don’t have to? But of course, in a democracy, under the rule of law, there are lines we never try to resist. We all genuflect at the altar of elections. Because of his primitive mentality and his indifference to democratic government this was impossible for him to see.”

    • SteveK

      What I find disheartening (more than Donald Trump himself actually) is that so many ‘apparently normal’ people are STILL making excuses for him… It’s as if they’re willing to continue egging on even more division and antagonism simply out of partisan loyalty,

      • dduck

        Name names

        • Ballard Burgher

          Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Mike Pence (R-IN), Jim Bridenstine (R-OK), Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), RNC chair Reince Priebus, Newt Gingrich, Rudi Giuliani, John Thune (R-SD), Deb Fischer (R-NE), Scott Garrett (R-N.J.), Rep. Bradley Byrne, Mitch McConnell (R-KY) to name a few of the Republicans still supporting Trump.

          • dduck

            ‘apparently normal’ ?

          • Brownies girl

            ‘apparently normal’?

            On this one, I have to agree with you dd. All of those folks, they may *seem* apparently normal, but they’re all just politicians trying to cover their butts so they can save their jobs (positions), whilst looking toward 2020. I’d like nothing so much as to see Sessions and McConnell lost their seats, though it’s probably a faint hope, sad to say.

  • KP

    What we need is “more cow bell”.

  • KP

    I have always known that Trump was not (always never not) an option.

    I have also held out that Hillary was never an option.

    One step beyond. I am now in the ‘always never not’ Hillary camp. I would fox hole with Huma before Hillary. Feel free to add a couple Anthony images in there if that is your thing.

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