House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat who became Speaker of the House to great fanfare as the first woman to serve in that post, has now reached a watershed moment: according to a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, she is now as (un)popular as former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
A series of scandals and hubris is what most analysts believe deep-sixed Gingrich’s once promising political career. But now Pelosi has entered a political polling danger zone in the wake her of the furor over what she knew or didn’t know about Bush administration waterboarding, her controversial charge that the CIA lied to her and Congress, plus a press conference performance shockingly inept for a professional politician:
As Nancy Pelosi continues to face a firestorm over what she may have known about aggressive government interrogation techniques, and when, a new survey has more unpleasant news for the House Speaker.
Nearly half of all Americans — 48 percent — disapprove of how the California Democrat she is handling her job as Speaker of the House in a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll released Monday, while 39 percent approve of her performance.
That rating makes her less popular than other members of her party — congressional Democrats drew a 51 percent approval rating in last month’s CNN/ORC survey — and roughly in line with the congressional GOP, which drew positive ratings in April from just 39 percent of those polled.
That puts her approval rating at roughly the levels Newt Gingrich had in his first year as Speaker of the House. (Back in 1995, Gingrich’s approval rating was 37 percent; by 1997 — at the same point in his speakership that Pelosi is now — that had dropped to just 25 percent.)
Presumably Pelosi — long under fire from the liberal wing of her party for not being agresssive enough, under fire from Republicans for being too liberal and partisan, and under fire from more moderate Democrats for being too liberal — wanted to be a House Speaker as powerful as Gingrich in his heyday — but not carry all of his baggage. This poll suggests she should invest in a nice luggage cart.
But all isn’t bleak for Pelosi: she is known as a skillfull infighter, a shrewd politico — and a Rasmussen Reports poll suggests a significant chunk of the public believes her version of events is “somewhat likely” to be true:
Forty-three percent (43%) of voters nationwide say that it’s at least somewhat likely that the Central Intelligence Agency misled Nancy Pelosi about the use of waterboarding when interrogating prisoners.
But the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey also found that 41% say it’s not likely the CIA did so.
In typical partisan fashion, 62% of Democrats give Pelosi the benefit of the doubt while 62% of Republicans hold the opposite view. As for those not affiliated with either major political party, 38% say the CIA may have misled the current House speaker, but 48% say it’s not likely.
Danger Zone II: She is losing the swing voters.
The ideological divide is similar: 70% of liberals take Pelosi’s side, but just 24% of conservatives agree.
Overall, just 20% of voters say it’s Very Likely Pelosi was misled while 22% say it’s Not at All Likely. Most voters are somewhere in between and may be waiting for additional information.
The bottom line: Pelosi still enjoys solid support from Democrats (who are unlikely to oust her), is unloved by most conservatives (who would be unlikely to like her given the partisan divide) but in terms of credibility she has some work to do with independent voters. Poor polling numbers — and more flustered press conference performances — could diminish her clout. Second bottom line: she is vulnerable and will be a useful symbol for the GOP in raising campaign funds.
SOME OTHER REACTION TO THE POLL:
–Political scientist Steven Taylor:
An impressive feat to be that unpopular given that her party holds the White House with a popular president…She has no one to blame but herself, as she appears to be playing politics with the torture issue, and lying about it to boot. It is extremely difficult to have watched her performance at the press conference in which she accused the CIA of lying and subsequently take her seriously. And it is not, by the way, because I find it implausible tha the CIA lied. It is just that I found her accusation to lack credibility.
While the drop for Pelosi is significant, some context is important — in other polls, Republican leaders like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell remain well below Pelosi’s current approval rating, so she’s still relatively popular for a congressional leader.
Back home in her congressional district, however, Pelosi remains fairly popular, with a 58 percent approval rating, according to a SurveyUSA poll.
Yowza. She’s got her work cut out for her if she wants to try and reverse those numbers. One way that might help? To do as House Minority Leader John Boehner has suggested on her allegations that the CIA “misled” her: Show the evidence that they did … or apologize.
Pelosi has said the CIA briefed her that enhanced interrogation techniques like waterboarding were legal, but she insists they was never informed that waterboarding was being used.
The three other members of Congress who received similar briefings are split along party lines in their recollection. Former Sen. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) said he was not informed of waterboarding or any other enhanced interrogation techinques, while Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) and former Rep. Porter Goss (R-Fla.) said they were.
–My DD’s Jonathan Singer on Rasmussen:
What’s so remarkable about these numbers is not just that more Americans believe Pelosi than believe the GOP talking points about the CIA (though the fact that history appears to be on her side does help in this regard), but rather that these findings come from Rasmussen, which leans noticeably against the Democrats relative to other surveys (per Pollster.com, Rasmussen’s estimate of Barack Obama’s approval rating is a full 6.6 points lower than the trend estimate of all other national surveys). Moreover, Rasmussen’s own polling finds that the CIA’s favorable rating is noticeably higher than that of Pelosi, so the fact that the pollster finds the American people to be giving her, rather than the CIA, the benefit of doubt speaks that much more loudly.
These numbers aren’t necessarily bound to change the coverage of this manufactured controversy, because the establishment media’s willingness to follow the cues of the right wing noise machine is not to be underestimated. But it is worth bearing in mind when reading or hearing stories about the purported weakness of Nancy Pelosi with regards to these CIA briefings that just 2-in-5 voters, led by self-affiliating Republicans already out to oppose the Speaker, are buying the charges.
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My ADD's Singer can be dismissed for projecting his own intense partisanship onto Rasmussen, and concluding that somehow “As for those not affiliated with either major political party, 38% say the CIA may have misled the current House speaker, but 48% say it’s not likely….” is somehow a rousing endorsement of Pelosi despite the evil machinations of “this manufactured controversy.” Seems to the MSM which ordinarily serves as Obama's choir just cannot swallow the many different versions Pelosi has offered, in a fumbling incompetent manner with body language that screams out “I don't know what I'm talking about.”
Even the Obama-leaning CNN cadres have been unconvinced that Pelosi isn't BSing. And the same percentage as in April, 58%, don't want to go on a McCarthyist witch hunt after alleged infractions in a war it now seems we have won, in the Iraq Theater.
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It's very easy to swallow what she's saying if you consider that the Cheney administration are like mobsters and she is like a politician caught in the squeeze between their nefarious agenda and trying to keep the public happy. When seen like this, Pelosi et al's position can be seen as an uneviable one. Will we let her take the political fall for the real mafiosos?
I say, “just say no”. And the MSM needs to bring its focus back on the real story. Faux news almost succeeded this time. We'll hear more from Pelosi and others in Congress as the prosecution of Cheneyco continues. For now, give her the benefit of the doubt..
Pelosi says investigate, declassify. The CIA says no, that would be bad. Who appears afraid of the truth here, her or them? Time will tell, but the GOP should pick its battles carefully. Pissing her off and making it impossible for Obama to move on with his other priorities is way more likely to hurt the GOP than the Dems. If Obama was behaving the way BushCheneyCo did, the torture photos would be splashed all over the media nonstop and they'd be defining the GOP as unamerican torture sadists.
I don't see how anyone in their right mind can defend Pelosi on this….this feels a lot like how conservatives were defending Bush for the past 8 years. Her behavior alone is enough to show anyone that she is being dishonest.
It is nice to see that both sides are just as apt to wear blinders when it comes to their ideological allies.
I know it isn't as exciting as Pelosi's troubles, but it appears that Harry Reid is having some issues of his own, too:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/45387987.html
ok, shannonlee, let me guide you through this. First, I'm no big Pelosi fan, and I'm not sure (none of us are) of all the facts here. Here's what we do know.
The CIA said they briefed Congress “repeatedly.” OK, who in Congress, and how repeatedly? With respect to another legislator, Bob Graham, they said they briefed him four times and stated the dates. Oops. Graham is a meticulous notetaker, and his notes are in the University of Florida library. His notes show that there were no briefings on three of the four dates on which the CIA claims to have briefed him. The CIA now admits they were wrong, saying “Graham is correct.” That is an unequivocal admission that the CIA's assertions with respect to briefing Bob Graham were wrong. Whether they were lies or just shabby record keeping on their part, the fact is that the CIA was wrong and has admitted as much.
While the legislators were forbidden to take notes during the briefings, CIA was allowed to. However, many of the “Notes” being used now by the CIA to document their briefings of Congress were not taken at the time of the briefings. They were compiled years later. The CIA not only does not vouch for the accuracy of their notes, they have twice appended a very lawyerly disclaimer to their notes.
“This information, however, is drawn from the past files of the CIA and represents [memorandums for the record] completed at the time and notes that summarized the best recollections of those individuals. In the end, you and the Committee will have to determine whether this information is an accurate summary of what actually happened.”
Finally, just as a reminder, *one week* after the CIA claims it told Pelosi about waterboarding (Graham backs her claim that it was never mentioned), the CIA gave their NIE claiming certainty about WMD. Again, whether the CIA was lying or spectacularly incompetent, they were WRONG.
Now, let me toss the incredulous question back to you. How could anyone in their right mind defend the accuracy of statements by the CIA?
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