Iran and Containment
For several years now, the West has tried to contain Iran. Iran, the country ruled by Muslim extremists dedicated to destroy Israel and cause a global jihad followed by Armageddon, meanwhile, has been able to resists this pressure because, yes, other countries, such as Russia and China support it just about blindly: even when they vote for sanctions (in the UN) these countries simply ignore these sanctions (that they voted for themselves), and continue to make it possible for the Mullahs to remain in power.
If that was the only problem – a country ruled by extremists – the West would not have to worry too much. Sadly, the Mullahs ruling over Iran do not just want to stay in power, they want to expand their power: they want to become the regional superpower.
Were that the entire problem, the West would not have to worry too much either: it only becomes a problem we should worry about, because the Mullahs aren’t just dreaming about regional hegemony and spreading Radical Islam throughout the Middle East, no, they are putting their dreams into action.
Iran is sponsoring terrorism whenever it can; it has already started and fought one war last year through Hezbollah, one of its proxies. Iran seems determined to produce a nuclear weapon: recently Ahmadinejad announced that Iran has reached “the industrial phase.” Iran allows thousands of Iraqis to be trained in Iran, to become terrorists who strike against American and Iraqi targets… in Iraq. Iran took 15 Britons hostage, and humiliated Britain for two weeks, before, finally, releasing them.
Meanwhile, our Russian and Chinese friends vote in favor of sanctions every now and then, but continue to behave (after doing so), as if nothing has changed.
The policy of containment towards Iran is not working: not, at least, if one’s goal is to force Iran to stop developing nuclear ‘energy’, and to stop supporting terrorism.
Meanwhile… The West goes back, time and time again, to the UN, to have sanctions imposed on Iran, which will be ignored by Russia and China.
That is why I believe that the West should stop looking to the UN to solve the problems with Iran. The West should, instead, only look at itself. No longer should attention be paid to what China and Russia think of the way we deal with Iran: they are irrelevant.
The West should hurt Iran economically as much as it can: together, with a united policy, the West can make Iran feel the consequences of its despicable, and destructive policies.
The West should unite, not just to contain Iran, but to decrease Iran’s influence / power, by taking the offensive. Hezbollah has to be removed from Lebanon, or at least severely weakened; Shia terrorist organizations in Iraq have to be destroyed, the West should also fight the propaganda war with passion and expertise, and the West should tolerate not one more provocation from Iran. If Iran takes Westerners hostage again, bombs away.
In short, we should look at how Ronald Reagan fought the Soviet Union, and how Barry Goldwater wanted the US to fight it: containment will not do; united, the West should take the offensive.
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67 Responses to “Iran and Containment”
The acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible, according to the United Nations Charter, the principles of international law, and many Security Council resolutions.
So the United States unique moral position gives it the right to violate treaties?
Thanks for exposing your hypocrisy in the clearest terms possible.
Nobody,
Just because you say I’m a liar does not make it so:
But nowhere did I call you a liar. I said you used half truths to make your point. I said there is two sides to every story and that I just wanted to let everyone know the rest of the story.
Now you can link to a post that says hey we are for peace all day long. But when the guy is for a peace plan that is opposed by the Hammas who has openly stated they are opposed to it, then he is just playing Political football and everyone knows it.
Actually Israel would accept this plan if Hammas would too.
Our proxy Israel also carpet bombed Lebanon last summer,
Had you not thrown this into your statement I would not have referenced this. This is a flat out lie. Carpet bombing is what we did in WW2 or the B52′s did in Iraq and Vietnam. Dropping 108 250lb bombs is carpet bombing. Israel was using precision guided weapons and precisely guided artillery. Secondly perhaps up for debate by anti semites but the Jewish state is not our proxy.
However you use some truths and then throw in some lies and together they form the thesis of your point. Therefore I can only conclude that you use half truths and some lies to make your point.
Nobody said this:
Precision guided cluster bombs?
IDF admits targeting civilian areas in Lebanon with cluster bombs
Not our proxy eh?
US rushes Precision-Guided Bombs to Israel
Gaahhhh…this thread is trashed!
Well Michael, if you think, or, Israel thinks, we are going to go to war against China and Russia over the Israeli/Islamic mess, lol….you have reached the end of your rope. Not even for oil would we do this and I assure you oil is far more important to the U.S. than Israel.
Precision guided cluster bombs?
Yes after the civilians were gone.
“the use of cluster munitions against built-up areas was done only against military targets where rocket launches against Israel were identified and after taking steps to warn the civilian population.”
We can go round and round. Israel is our ally. Not our Proxy.
> The acquisition of territory
> by force is inadmissible,
> according to the United
> Nations Charter, the principles
> of international law, and
> many Security Council
> resolutions.
Israel is not required to evacuate all the Territories.
> exposing your hypocrisy
Iran is not our peer. Kindly refrain from game-playing about that fact.
DLS,
Your claim that the United States is allowed to violate treaties while Iran is not, is simply astounding.
What good are laws and treaties if one side considers itself exempt from them? While there are many faults within our international system of law, I think most sane people agree that it’s better than the “might makes right” system that follows from your line of thinking.
The acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible, according to the United Nations Charter, the principles of international law, and many Security Council resolutions.
The one glaring weakness of this argument is that Israel did not start the war and was only defending herself. Since this time Israel has given back 95 percent of all lands seized during the 1967 war. The only thing left is the farms which basically I am assuming they are holding onto for symbolic reasons.
Meaning they are not going to give 100 percent until their is sufficient reason to expect doing so will benefit them.
Yet this 95 percent is not good enough. The anti semites continue to pin the label of war monger on Israel while we watch the Palestinians bomb Israelis and then the Israelis respond with bulldozers.
There never is camera around filming the Palestinians blowing up women and children but their is always cameras around showing the Israelis bulldozing houses in response.
If we watch enough bulldozers we tend to forget about the dead Israelis being scraped off walls and sympathize with those poor Palestinians who had their house bulldozed. I think its time for the Palestinians to rise up and throw off their own shackles.. Hamas. And take back their life. End the violence. End the terror and seek peace.
If the Palestinians lay down their guns there will be peace. If Israel lays down its guns their will be Genocide.
There is nothing defensive about seizing territory. It doesn’t matter which side started the conflict.
Chris.
Israel is not going to leave.
The Palestinians are not going to leave.
So now what?
> Your claim that the United States
> is allowed to violate treaties while
> Iran is not, is simply astounding.
I’m not making that claim. Are you referring to the US-India Civilian Nuclear Cooperation Initiative? Are you talking about the Reliable Replacement Warhead (which is a perfectly reasonable undertaking, too)? Other new warheads in exchange for scrapping the old, such as those we need to destroy hardened or deeply buried targets (such as in Iran)? Complex 2030?
It’s this nation’s adversaries that find such things provocative (the NPT is irrelevent) as well as some who don’t want improvements to our capability but also to our reliability and safety.
> “might makes right� system
> that follows from your line of
> thinking.
It does not follow (particularly from fiction).
> There never is camera around
> filming the Palestinians blowing
> up women and children but their
> is always cameras around
> showing the Israelis bulldozing
> houses in response.
It’s disgusting hypocrisy — not holding Israel to a higher standard which “it should be expected to meet.”
Israel goes out of its way to concede even in warfare and reprisal against terrorism and it gets criticized, while the media often not only minimize or conceal the uglier conduct of Israel’s enemies (who don’t fight with white gloves on and one hand deliberately tied behind the back, but fight dirty as well as in cowardly and cynical ways, such as from within civilian populations), but at times express sympathy with the opposition, who are criminal.
It’s not just the liberal media here in the States, either.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=444074&in_page_id=1770
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article2398870.ece
http://www.bbcwatch.co.uk/index.html
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/reports/Jeningrad_What_the_British_Media_Said.asp
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Report_Critical_of_BBC_Mideast_Coverage.asp
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Documenting_BBC_Documentaries.asp
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/The_Guardians_Demonization_Campaign.asp
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/reports/European_Media_and_Anti-Israel_Bias.asp
http://www.honestreporting.com/
http://www.camera.org/
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1991to_now_media_anti_israel_bias.php
http://www.tampabayprimer.org/index.cfm?action=leftNav&drill=antiIsrael
DLS,
From Wikipedia:
Sorry, the U.S. does not comply with it’s obligations under the treaty, without good-faith efforts to dismantle its nuclear arsenal.
Hopefully this will appear in a normal font. Chris, nice lengthy quote. Now, where did it come from? Without knowing a source and context it can’t be evaluated. Secondly, you do definitely come across as very anti-Israeli, no more balanced in your approach than those you criticize. You neglect to account for one of the other requirements placed on Israel in the Arab proposal, the right of return. A full, literal right of return for all of the Palestinians who used to live in the territory the Arabs are willing to consider as being the state of Israel and all of their descendants. The Arab states know that this would mean the end of Israel and they therefore are not making a serious proposal.
USA
INTERNATIONAL
DICTATIORSHIP!!!!!!
is this what we need ?…no!
usa kills who they want when they want why should they be allowed nukes?
USA is the only country that has used nukes another countrie (japan)
we should stop usa making nukes
at least the U.N. is democratic and more peaceful
than the usa
at the moment GEORGE W. BUSH is the worlds biggest TERRORIST!
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