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Republicans Plan to Stop Health Care Reform In the Senate

That grinding sound you hear may be the sound of the conventional wisdom shifting: as of today, many news, broadcast and blog reports are starting to (gingerly) suggest that bet health care reform could squeek through the House. But the Senate? Reports now suggest that could still be very much up in the air there — since reports suggest the GOP is now working on ways to try and halt health care reform in the Senate, by using procedural and other monkey wrench type tactics.

First, here’s an MSNBC video clip with Andrea Mitchell interviewing Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire who is a key figure in coming up with the strategy to gut the bill in the Senate:

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Next, look at The Politico, which has a detailed piece that explains this further. The report’s bottom line is that by using procedural measures GOPers hope to gut some 40 percent of whatever emerges from the House:

Democrats might like to think that health care reform is all but a done deal if it clears the House, but the Senate is where Republicans have been plotting for months to sentence it to a painful procedural death.

Republican aides have been mining the Senate’s arcane parliamentary rules for an attack that aims at striking elements both broad and narrow from the bill, weakening the measure and ultimately defeating it. Their goal is to force changes that leave Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) without 51 votes to pass it, or at the very least, that drive it back to the House for a second vote that drags out the process and saps Democratic resolve.

But the first step in the Republicans’ game plan is making sure they never need to use the rest of it.

“Our initial goal is to stop the bill in the House,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas). “Part of convincing House members to vote for the Senate bill is that it can be fixed by reconciliation, and I think that is a highly questionable proposition.”

It’s a pre-emptive strike meant to scare jittery House Democrats into withholding their support from Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who needs 216 votes to pass the Senate bill and a companion measure that fixes unpopular elements of the bill. If she falls short, comprehensive health care reform dies.

Senate Republicans will advance their campaign Thursday with floor speeches detailing why a provision to delay the “Cadillac tax” — a must-have for House liberals in the companion bill — could fall victim to the chamber’s parliamentary rules.

The provision is just one of many that Republicans expect to challenge. Under a strategy developed by Republican Policy Committee Chairman John Thune of South Dakota and Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, Republicans are plotting ways to strike major elements of the reconciliation bill, including changes to the special Medicaid deal for Nebraska and the carve-out for Florida senior citizens from Medicaid Advantage cuts. They are also going small bore, looking to strike seemingly minor provisions, including one that would fix language dealing with the employer mandate and the construction industry.

One senior Republican aide said staff and senators believe that as much as 40 percent of the measure can be killed through procedural objections.

Firedoglake adds this:

Republicans think they have some ammo in their chambers they can use to delay or disrupt health care reform. The first shot will get fired at the Rules Committee meeting, tentatively scheduled for Saturday, where every single member of the Republican caucus will try to offer an amendment to the bill. They will all fail, of course. But they might succeed in turning that meeting into a marathon session and putting Democrats off of their timeline.

That’s a delaying tactic, of course, and other tactics in the House or Senate would potentially succeed in delaying but not derailing health care reform. Therefore, the next step would be to try to repeal the bill, as Paul Ryan said today. The problem with repeal, of course, is a guy by the name of Barack Obama. Unless the GOP gains 26 seats in the Senate, I doubt they’d have the votes to override a Presidential veto. When you corner Republicans on this, they admit they can’t actually repeal the bill, though they are likely to continue running on repeal, which they consider a winning message….

…..Proposals like this, attacking the individual mandate but also health care reform in general, have been introduced in 36 states with almost identical language. ALEC, a right-wing outfit that feeds legislative language to state Republican lawmakers, basically wrote these bills. And I’d expect the well-funded legal arm of the conservative movement to fight to block implementation of the federal bill, taking it all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary. Whether they would have the votes to essentially reopen the nullification issue is unclear. But we’ll almost certainly get an answer on this before the exchanges and the individual mandate get set into place.

Meanwhile, GOP Congressional leaders are taking a strong stand against abortion standing in the health care reform bill — and Sen. Orrin Hatch said CBO the report favorable to the health care reform plan is just a bunch of misleading “gimmicks”":

A CROSS SECTION OF OPINION ON VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE HEALTH CARE REFORM DEBATE:
Taylor Marsh:

It’s not exactly stellar leadership on anyone’s part. But we haven’t had a real Congress for decades. We simply have political parties inside the Capitol dome who either protect the presidency, if the person is of the same party, or stop the president, if not.

The reason people hate Congress is because they’re doing the work of the Executive Branch, not the people. Party over sound policy is causing a revolt.

But even a bad health care bill offered up by Congress, if passed into law and signed by Pres. Obama, will make history, because it’s never been done before.

As for the people, we got lost in this a long time ago. The day Pres. Obama made a deal with insurance and pharmaceutical companies, deciding that no matter if the people wanted the public option he didn’t; putting himself and his presidency first, above women and the people’s desires, which the Democrats in Congress helped him do.

The New Editor:

President Obama’s economic advisor Christina Romer just stated that ‘the health-care reform bill would be the biggest deficit-reduction bill in the last 15 years.’

It appears obvious that the Democratic Party’s talking points about this preliminary CBO report will be that the health-care reform bill will be one of ‘the biggest deficit reduction packages in history.’

This is utterly false and misleading — total nonsense.

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The CBO report, to be released today, will project the bill will cost $940B over the decade, and that it will be fully paid for. The bill would reduce annual growth in Medicare expenditures by 1.4% per year, extending Medicare’s life by 9 years.
The news is a boost for Dems searching for the 216 votes they need to pass a reform package. Several wavering members of Congress have said they are concerned about cost containment; now, armed with the CBO’s rosy projections, Dem leadership could win over several members who voted against the bill the first time around.

The bill is now headed to the House Rules Committee, where Dems will finalize their options for moving forward. Floor action is expected on Sunday, 72 hours after the bill gets posted online.

Already, several members who voted against the legislation the first time around have said they will announce their decisions today. Dem strategists are optimistic any members who make their ststands public today, on the heels of the CBO score, are likely to help them pick up momentum.

Alan Colmes:
While conservatives love to talk down the numbers from the Congressional Budget Office whenever it doesn’t suit their agenda, the numbers on the health care bill are encouraging…..

….Get ready for the right-wing spin.
Steve Benen:

Democrats were also told they needed to do all of this in the face of unanimous and apoplectic Republican opposition, far-right manipulation of gullible conservative activists, and media coverage that largely ignores the substance of the bill while pretending every right-wing attack deserves attention.

This is a needle that’s almost impossible to thread. And yet, that’s exactly what the White House and congressional leaders have done. It’s no small feat.

But it might yet fail anyway, in part because some Dems prefer cowardice to success….

…..In a divided Democratic caucus, featuring liberals and conservative Blue Dogs, the trick was to find a way to deliver on what both contingents wanted to see in a reform bill. As impossible as this seemed, the final Democratic reform proposal does just that.

I have no idea what’s going to happen when the final roll call is held, but Democrats have no reason, no excuse, no coherent rationale for killing the best chance the United States has ever had to pass health care reform.

National Review’s The Corner:

How did the Democrats get the CBO score they wanted, the score that has liberals running a victory lap around the blogosphere?

The short answers seems to be: with more of the same gadget plays that got us the “deficit reduction” in earlier versions of Obamacare.

If you are a regular reader of the Corner, you are already intimately acquainted with the Medicare double-counting. But it doesn’t stop there….

…..The simple fact is that nobody knows what this bill will cost. That’s due in part to the guarantee that history will intervene, in messy and unpredictable ways, over the next decade. And it is due in part to the fallibility of the lawyers and staffers who wrote it, and of the accountants who scored it. And it is due, in no small part, to the baroque lengths to which Congressional Democrats have gone in the name of obscurity.

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11 Responses to “Republicans Plan to Stop Health Care Reform In the Senate”

  1. Silhouette says:

    OK, First we have this:

    1. “Democrats might like to think that health care reform is all but a done deal if it clears the House, but the Senate is where Republicans have been plotting for months to sentence it to a painful procedural death.”

    And then we have this:

    2. That republicans were warning and sneering that the dems will lose hugely this Fall if they pass the Bill.

    Which begs the question, which is true? 1 or 2 ? Because for both of them to be true we'd have to accept the premise that the republicans weren't political strategists and/or that they are deeply concerned for the dems that they'll lose seats this Fall.

    Talk about mind-benders..

  2. Heh, all these responsible bowtie-wearing fiscal experts know as well as anyone that not even their precious status quo is safe – that's right, you can't even have your precious Reaganite sexual fantasy no matter how much you shunt the poor and the unfortunate onto the sidelines. Your status quo is becoming more and more untenable and pathetic, so you can't salvage anything by denying the poor.

    In other words, this empty talk about no one knowing what the bill will cost. Well here's the thing – no one knows what not passing it will cost. So falling back on “What you have” is nothing short of fearful, low instincts in the American situation – it is neither more responsible nor more prudent. It's just fear, weakness, emotions. Even if you do decide to screw the uninsured for a decade, you won't actually gain anything tenable.

  3. DLS says:

    Joe, if you've been paying attention this week to all the excitement, and you both pay attention to details and “read between the lines” of what you may hear (on the radio) or read, there's no telling how this might end up, but if the legislation fails, this might actually boost, rather than kill the spirit and life of, the Left.

    The Coffee Party is mainly good for chuckles, but it's also a sign of what's going on, if you hear left radio, and a number of people angry about Dem “sellouts,” Third Way corporatists, things Sil would say. [grin]

    The Dems cannot let down as much as half of their typical voters over this issue, this year, without some consequences.

    That is superimposed on the rest of the public's being upset at the Dems' overreach and underhandedness with this issue. The Dems' desperation seems to be driving them to risk offending all but the hard-core “reform” advocates.

    It's going to be a weirder November than many believe. (I never thought it would be another 1994 this year.)

  4. DdW says:

    Latest Republican tack to stop HCR:

    From Think Progress:

    With this morning’s release of the Congressional Budget Office’s reconciliation package score, the House appears ready to vote on health care reform this Sunday. Rep. Steve King (R-IA) — speaking with Fox News host Glenn Beck on his radio show this morning — said the timing of the vote is unholy. He warned that Democrats intend to “take away the liberty that we have right from God” on “the Sabbath, during Lent.” Beck agreed, calling the Sunday vote an “affront to God,” and something “our founders would have never” done “[o]ut of respect for God”

    http://thinkprogress.org/2010/03/18/king-sabbat…

  5. DaGoat says:

    I would like to see the special deals for Florida and other individual states struck from the bill. Why would anyone here have trouble with that?

  6. casualobserver says:

    And I believe you already know they gimmicked the doc fix for just 2 years to keep the CBO from adding another $300B to the price tag.

    But they are actually not that clever in the end. Early review reveals at least 3 substantive Byrd rule violations, so, at a minimum, even if it does get through the Senate, it will have to go back to the House at least one more time.

    The fat lady hasn't even bothered to enter the theater at this point.

  7. ryan says:

    Hi Joe – my understanding is that the House will pass the Senate bill, and then pass a “patch” that will have to be approved by the Senate. Thus by the time the Senate votes on anything the current health care bill will already be on its way to the President for signing. If Republicans then plan to attack the “patch”, they will be attacking a bill that removes the special deal for Nebraska and some of the other less-palatable items in a bill that Obama will already be preparing to sign.

    It's not realistic to think that Republicans would really go on record as voting to keep the Nebraska deal, so this whole “strategy” must be nothing more than posturing. If Pelosi rounds up 216 votes, health care passes, and then it's only a matter of getting the Senate to pass the “patch” (via reconciliation) to strip out the most unpalatable parts of it.

  8. steveinch says:

    Ryan,

    The Rs will absolutely oppose the sidecar. Sure it takes out the Nebraska deal but it takes it out by extending it to all the states. It also includes the student loan takeover (which the entire R caucus absolutely despises).

    I'm no expert on the Byrd rule but I have read that some believe there are violations.

    In any event, I'll bet you a deep dish pizza (delivered wherever you like) that the Senate goes all out to stop the sidecar.

  9. DLS says:

    “the sidecar”

    Nothing like an IED on the side of the road when one's needed.

  10. ryan says:

    Steve – if in fact the Republicans do fight tooth and nail over the patch bill it will make for some very interesting campaign ads come November – the Democrats have been beating the “party of no” theme ever since Obama came into office, and objecting to a “patch” bill that contains provisions that are bound to be popular with the public will feed into that narrative. Additionally, I wouldn't want to have the job of trying to sell people on the idea that the Democrats are using obscure parliamentary procedure to pass legislation, and then defend killing that legislation with the Byrd rule… the pot and kettle metaphor seems too obvious.

  11. HemmD says:

    Let's see.
    The house passes a bill that includes among other things the public option.

    The 60 majority senate bill grows out of the lobby authored Baucus bill and includes many pro insurance amendments added in the name of a bipartisanship that no one believed existed.

    Lobby paid blue dogs delay in the name of fiscal and abortion until the senate bill must be passed whole cloth.

    the house must resort to a parliamentary fenagle that allows passage with a side care fix to the egregious pro insurance senate bill.

    the senate fails to pass the sidecar so that only the pro insurance language is implemented.

    Nobody knows how it happened…….

    And people wonder why I'm against this “reform.”

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