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The Gray Lady’s Non-Defense of their Climategate Coverage

smokestacks.jpgThe New York Times’ Public Editor, Clark Hoyt, has published a much needed, but strangely unsatisfying and contradictory explanation of his newspaper’s coverage (or lack thereof) of the hacked climategate e-mails from the University of East Anglia. Much of his response focuses on answering charges that Times reporter Andrew Revkin was “too cozy” with some of the climate scientists in question when reporting on man’s influence on global warming trends. But in the course of making this argument, Hoyt highlights one tidbit from the emails which should have received a lot more attention.

I read all the messages involving Revkin, and I did not see anything to keep him off the story. If anything, there was an indication that the scientists whom some readers accused Revkin of being too cozy with were wary of his independence. One, Michael Mann of Pennsylvania State University, warned a colleague, Phil Jones, director of the Climatic Research Unit at East Anglia, to be careful what he shared with “Andy” because, “He’s not as predictable as we’d like.”

The Public Editor is using this warning from Dr. Mann as an indication that Andrew Revkin isn’t as biased and partisan as some readers suggest, but isn’t there a larger story contained in those last seven words? A scientist pushing the man-made global warming storyline is worried about a New York Times science reporter not being “reliable” enough for them? What that shows me is a scientist who is less interested in publishing his facts and conclusions than he is in winning a political, public opinion battle and his group’s ability to manipulate the media. I’ve seen plenty of concerns about reporters not being “as predictable” as some may like, but they usually come from political operatives trying to win a spin war in the beltway. This smacks of potentially disingenuous media savvy far more than science.

Hoyt does get around to addressing the meta-question related to their coverage, though, in the following introspective paragraph:

The biggest question is what the messages amount to — an embarrassing revelation that scientists can be petty and defensive and even cheat around the edges, or a major scandal that undercuts the scientific premise for global warming. The former is a story. The latter is a huge story. And the answer is tied up in complex science that is difficult even for experts to understand, and in politics in which passionate sides have been taken, sometimes regardless of the facts.

So which type of story is it? On our radio show yesterday, Cindy and I were discussing this very thing and one conclusion seemed clear. When it comes to the scientific method, much as with politics, there is a parallel between this debate and, for example, the beginning of the war in Iraq. Massive intelligence failures there led to incorrect conclusions regarding the facts on the ground. So, if somebody uses that faulty information as a basis for their decisions, were they “lying” or were they just “wrong?”

If climate scientists use a faulty model, collect some bad data, or make errors in their conclusions which they then reveal and account for, they may have just been “wrong.” And there’s no crime in being wrong about something. We’re all human and mistakes happen. That would be, as Hoyt put it, “a story.” But if you’ve collected a body of data which seems to contradict what you’ve been saying all along and you knowingly decide to discard that data and destroy the original test results to hide it, you’re no longer “just wrong.” You’re lying. And that, to quote Hoyt’s criteria, is “a huge story.”

Just to be clear yet again, I don’t count myself in the camp of the so called “skeptics” who say that global warming is a “hoax” or that it’s not happening or man has no influence on the atmosphere and the environment. We affect our world with every action we perform and every breath we take. And I absolutely believe that the planet was going through a warming period in the last half of the 20th century. Perhaps now the Earth is entering a slight cooling period which may or may not continue. I really couldn’t say for sure.

The one thing I am skeptical about is people (on either side) who claim that they do absolutely know all that needs to be known about such a vast and staggeringly complex system as our biosphere. I tend to discount the opinions of those who claim that “the debate is over” or “the science is settled” or “we’ve proven everything,” whether they are claiming that anthropogenic global warming is driving us off the rails or that it’s all a massive ponzi scheme by Al Gore. I think we’re still working on understanding it, as we should be, but clearly we have a lot left to learn. I also want human beings to live as cleanly as possible and disrupt the environment as little as can be managed, while not bankrupting ourselves in the process. But what the climategate story really means to me is that we’ve had some agents in the scientific community who have not been playing by the rules when it comes to the scientific method, and they do no service to either us or themselves if they try to twist a vitally important scientific process into a political parlor game.



62 Responses to “The Gray Lady’s Non-Defense of their Climategate Coverage”

  1. TheMagicalSkyFather says:

    Jellyfish is one species that it benefits which is why their numbers are growing and also why they have been seen in such condensed large numbers in a single pack. Some species will die some will be better off but our food chain as a species is highly(overly if you ask me since I agree that over fishing has caused many problems as well) dependent on ocean fish. This is why I am very worried about the issue. We can move away from coasts and even avoid many places that may be polluted or due to GW may be uninhabitable, it will cost money but we can. If we start having large dead zones in our oceans and many of the species we live off of disappear or disappear from certain regions mass starvation and global warfare will follow in a simple cause/effect manner. This is my primary concern, other than that I will wait for the science to come in since if it is disproven I can have a GW is not happening party and if it is proven to be happening for me nothing will really change. The acidification issue though I have yet to see discussed by nations as the boogey man than GW has been and it is far more scary to me. Much like GW though if its not true I will be happy as a clam(saving for my liveaboard at this time in fact) but it has been my experience that when digging into these issues scientists generally find the issue to be worse than was previously thought not better but it would be nice to have some good news.

  2. yachtlazybones says:

    Peer review works well so long as what is being checked is the science. Was
    the data collected in an unbiased fashion, is the sample large enough, is
    the math correct, does anyone involved have a stake in the answer.

    At the point where one alternative is given preference over another, while
    both remain neither proven nor unproven, then we move from science to
    religion.

    For example: There is a stronger mathematical correlation between orbital
    mechanics, solar activity and historical climate and current weather than
    there is for CO2. There is a strong correlation between the orbit of the
    moon and severe weather. There is a strong correlation between the orbit of
    the planets and solar activity. There is a strong correlation between the
    change in earth's ice caps and those on mars. These all point to a much
    more complicated model of climate than the AGW hypothesis.

    Many of these theories predict we are entering a prolonged solar minimum, a
    period of cooling that started 10 years ago and will continue for 20 more
    years. This is not predicted by AGW, which predicted continued rapid
    increases. As such, AGW is at odds with observation, at least over the past
    10 years, which raises questions about its validity for prediction.

  3. yachtlazybones says:

    Good news doesn't sell. Growing up we heard all the same. Nuclear testing
    is changing the weather; we are all going to die. Get out and see the
    world. I did. Graduated university with no money and no debts. Worked 11
    years and was $110,000 in debt. Clearly the trend was in the wrong
    direction.

    Found a like minded gal, moved aboard a boat, cut my costs to zero and
    sailed the world, raised a family along the way. 20 years later came back.
    Money earned along the way, along with the saved rent had paid off the
    debts, paid for a house, a boat, car, motor-home and money in the bank.

    Life is much more resilient than people make out. Warm weather brings more
    food. Industrialization brings jobs, prosperity and less war. As the
    wealth of the population grows the birth rate falls and stabilizes. We are
    much safer with a prosperous India and China than with a starving India and
    China.

    The challenge is to overcome corruption which plagues much of the world and
    defeats all attempts for people to better themselves. Our countries are not
    immune to this problem. Science is not immune either, which is why I have
    chosen to speak out on this issue.

  4. yachtlazybones says:

    Here is some good news:

    Concerns have been raised that coral reefs could
    be harmed by rising CO2 emissions through a
    CO2-induced acidification of the world?s oceans.
    But a study of calcification rates of Porites coral
    colonies on Australia?s Great Barrier Reef (GBR)
    found ?the 20th century has witnessed the second
    highest period of above-average calcification in the
    past 237 years? [Lough and Barnes 1997]. Research
    by the same authors has found GBR calcification
    rates were linearly related to average annual sea
    surface temperature, such that ?a 1ºC rise in average
    annual SST increased average annual calcification
    by 0.39 g cm-2y-1.?

    http://www.heartland.org/custom/semod_policybot…

  5. TheMagicalSkyFather says:

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hear…

    They are actually a problematic source since they are as political as is being claimed against the GW scientists. This group is also linked to the tobacco industry in its attempt to “debunk” cancer being linked to smoking(the good news is that it is not related to second hand smoking but it is to smoking which they deny). They also back such GOP ideas like privatization of all public services and their answer to health care is full deregulation which would of course solve the insurance companies problems with getting higher profits each quarter but would fix little else. Either way though I will wait to see more studies on coral and hope that it heads back the other way.

    When I say I “fear” ocean acidification I do not fear it for myself but humanities future. I will not have any children so I am not worried about my children or their children, I am in the process of saving for my live aboard so I will not be tied to any nation or region to survive and I am broadly educated in IT and that is where more and more investment will be made so my financial future is pretty bright. I do though think it is important to leave the world as good if not a better place than it was when I was born, in 1975, if not for my children then for future generations in general. From my view if the science comes back and GW is real the best fix is technology to reverse the issues and not just caps and technology to be more efficient. No matter what the scientists find Heartland will not change their views since they are a political organization that prepares studies with pre-conceived results(much like what is now being claimed about GW scientists). THe main difference between the two is GW scientists are said to have been politicized on the GW issue and Heartland is politicized on all issues they care to investigate which from my view makes them more worrisome. The only answer is to re-investigate the issue and move forward with the findings.

  6. yachtlazybones says:

    Don't look at the site that published the article, look at the people that
    wrote it. That was just a convenient link.

  7. yachtlazybones says:

    Here is a great kitchen experiment.

    So what type of vessel are you getting as a liveaboard?

  8. yachtlazybones says:

    Reason I ask. I wrote a series of articles a few years back, showing how
    you are way ahead to borrow the $$ and move aboard today, use your rent
    savings to pay off the loan. Gird your loins as it were and get on with
    your dream. That is what I did. Better to pay the rent into the loan on
    your boat and live your dream than hand it over to the landlord and pay for
    his.

  9. TheMagicalSkyFather says:

    I am a source Nazi which is why I ignore polls from Fox and from DailyKOS as well, they may have wonderful methodology but I will stick with sources that are more reputable though Singer is a name I know as he has been the famous voice in the wilderness on the GW issue, as it is re-investigated I will be interested to see what he thinks of it and if any of his opinions or predictions change. From all I have read he is one of the few reputable scientists in the field that have come out against it so it will be instructive to see how different his and other researchers conclusions are moving forward. Some scientists on one side or the other will ruin their name on the GW issue and though I may lay a bet on it as far as likely outcome I am not really sure what it will be but my guess right now is that it is happening but not as severely as the off the cliff scientists have stated but that is just a guess and I tend to split the difference and go down the middle by nature anyway. Of course our solar system and our place in it and sun have effects as well but so does global dimming which is caused by pollution and helps to keep the planet cooler than it otherwise would be. With the genome project they are just admitting that their will be no huge health breakthroughs anytime soon since it seems to be about multiple factors instead of single ones so they will need to take the entire humans dna info into account which will take many more years of investigation, for me it is pretty instructive of how the GW science is and in the future will need to be investigated but in macro systems everything matters because everything contributes to an effect. For instance global dimming would explain why the outer atmosphere is not getting hot enough but ground temperature is since the issue with global dimming is that it reflects back heat instead of soaking it into the environment at the levels it otherwise would. This is also why I am waiting for the science to be re-investigated though since it is a hugely complex issue with many factors in many fields of study and research of which I am not in nor interested in a single one.

    On the Live aboard

    That is what I am building for now, I am just saving for the down payment but in the mean time I will be shopping auctions in the hope of finding something on the cheap. At first I wanted a sailboat but my focus is now on old Trawlers or expedition boats that I can convert for my purposes. The good thing is that they are easier to find on the cheap, especially expedition boats which are stunningly cheap after use. Then I will spend my money on paying it off and lots of solar panels and wind generators. Oil is more expensive now but otherwise the current level of technology is amazing for self sufficiency(or close to it) at sea.

  10. yachtlazybones says:

    I listen to both sides, even it I don't agree. Helps spot the flaws all
    around. Most people don't like to tell lies, but there are some that love
    it and are very good as a result.

    Don't have much use for polls. Pick any point in history and at the time
    the majority believed this or that was absolutely true, which the majority
    now believe is false.

    The idea of a “majority” consensus is politics, it isn't science. Can't
    think of any new ideas that didn't start the same way: The majority first
    says it is impossible, then they say it can't be done it is too expensive.
    Finally they say they knew it was a good idea all along.

    It is always the same. Preacher, Politician and now the Scientists belching
    fire and brimstone — You need to change your ways and we are here to tell
    you how. Then they pass the plate and ask you to pay. Yes, it will hurt,
    but it is for your own good.

    I hear stuff like that, I thinking thanks but no thanks, I'll let you go
    first.

  11. yachtlazybones says:

    24 Canadian scientists challenge the UN

    141 experts challenge the UN: prove man is warming the world

    http://www.copenhagenclimatechallenge.org/

    Open Letter to Secretary-General of United Nations

    His Excellency Ban Ki Moon

    Secretary-General, United Nations

    New York, NY

    United States of America

    8 December 2009

    Dear Secretary-General,

    Climate change science is in a period of ?negative discovery? – the more we
    learn about this exceptionally complex and rapidly evolving field the more
    we realize how little we know. Truly, the science is NOT settled.

    Therefore, there is no sound reason to impose expensive and restrictive
    public policy decisions on the peoples of the Earth without first providing
    convincing evidence that human activities are causing dangerous climate
    change beyond that resulting from natural causes. Before any precipitate
    action is taken, we must have solid observational data demonstrating that
    recent changes in climate differ substantially from changes observed in the
    past and are well in excess of normal variations caused by solar cycles,
    ocean currents, changes in the Earth's orbital parameters and other natural
    phenomena.

    We the undersigned, being qualified in climate-related scientific
    disciplines, challenge the UNFCCC and supporters of the United Nations
    Climate Change Conference to produce convincing OBSERVATIONAL EVIDENCE for
    their claims of dangerous human-caused global warming and other changes in
    climate. Projections of possible future scenarios from unproven computer
    models of climate are not acceptable substitutes for real world data
    obtained through unbiased and rigorous scientific investigation.

    Specifically, we challenge supporters of the hypothesis of dangerous
    human-caused climate change to demonstrate that:

    1. Variations in global climate in the last hundred years are
    significantly outside the natural range experienced in previous centuries;
    2. Humanity?s emissions of carbon dioxide and other ?greenhouse gases?
    (GHG) are having a dangerous impact on global climate;
    3. Computer-based models can meaningfully replicate the impact of all
    of the natural factors that may significantly influence climate;
    4. Sea levels are rising dangerously at a rate that has accelerated
    with increasing human GHG emissions, thereby threatening small islands and
    coastal communities;
    5. The incidence of malaria is increasing due to recent climate
    changes;
    6. Human society and natural ecosystems cannot adapt to foreseeable
    climate change as they have done in the past;
    7. Worldwide glacier retreat, and sea ice melting in Polar Regions , is
    unusual and related to increases in human GHG emissions;
    8. Polar bears and other Arctic and Antarctic wildlife are unable to
    adapt to anticipated local climate change effects, independent of the causes
    of those changes;
    9. Hurricanes, other tropical cyclones and associated extreme weather
    events are increasing in severity and frequency;
    10. Data recorded by ground-based stations are a reliable indicator of
    surface temperature trends.

    It is not the responsibility of ?climate realist? scientists to prove that
    dangerous human-caused climate change is not happening. Rather, it is those
    who propose that it is, and promote the allocation of massive investments to
    solve the supposed ?problem?, who have the obligation to convincingly
    demonstrate that recent climate change is not of mostly natural origin and,
    if we do nothing, catastrophic change will ensue. To date, this they have
    utterly failed to do so.

    Signed by:

    1. Habibullo I. Abdussamatov, Dr. Sci., mathematician and
    astrophysicist, Head of the Russian-Ukrainian Astrometria project on the
    board of the Russian segment of the ISS, Head of Space Research Laboratory
    at the Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences, St.
    Petersburg, Russia
    2. Göran Ahlgren, docent organisk kemi, general secretary of the
    Stockholm Initiative, Professor of Organic Chemistry, Stockholm, Sweden
    3. Syun-Ichi Akasofu, PhD, Professor of Physics, Emeritus and Founding
    Director, International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska,
    Fairbanks, Alaska, U.S.A.
    4. J.R. Alexander, Professor Emeritus, Dept. of Civil Engineering,
    University of Pretoria, South Africa; Member, UN Scientific and Technical
    Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000, Pretoria, South Africa.
    5. Jock Allison, PhD, ONZM, formerly Ministry of Agriculture Regional
    Research Director, Dunedin, New Zealand
    6. Bjarne Andresen, PhD, dr. scient, physicist, published and presents
    on the impossibility of a “global temperature”, Professor, The Niels Bohr
    Institute, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
    7. Timothy F. Ball, PhD, environmental consultant and former
    climatology professor, University of Winnipeg, Member, Science Advisory
    Board, ICSC, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
    8. Douglas W. Barr, BS (Meteorology, University of Chicago), BS and MS
    (Civil Engineering, University of Minnesota), Barr Engineering Co.
    (environmental issues and water resources), Minnesota, U.S.A.
    9. Romuald Bartnik, PhD (Organic Chemistry), Professor Emeritus, Former
    chairman of the Department of Organic and Applied Chemistry, climate work in
    cooperation with Department of Hydrology and Geological Museum, University
    of Lodz, Lodz, Poland
    10. Colin Barton, B.Sc., PhD, Earth Science, Principal research
    scientist (retd), Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research
    Organisation (CSIRO), Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    11. Joe Bastardi, BSc, (Meteorology, Pennsylvania State), meteorologist,
    State College, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.
    12. Ernst-Georg Beck, Dipl. Biol. (University of Freiburg), Biologist,
    Freiburg, Germany
    13. David Bellamy, OBE, English botanist, author, broadcaster,
    environmental campaigner, Hon. Professor of Botany (Geography), University
    of Nottingham, Hon. Prof. Faculty of Engineering and Physical Systems,
    Central Queensland University, Hon. Prof. of Adult and Continuing Education,
    University of Durham, United Nations Environment Program Global 500 Award
    Winner, Dutch Order of The Golden Ark, Bishop Auckland County, Durham, U.K.
    14. M. I. Bhat, Professor & Head, Department of Geology & Geophysics,
    University of Kashmir, Srinagar, Jammu & Kashmir, India
    15. Ian R. Bock, BSc, PhD, DSc, Biological sciences (retired),
    Ringkobing, Denmark
    16. Sonja A. Boehmer-Christiansen, PhD, Reader Emeritus, Dept. of
    Geography, Hull University, Editor – Energy&Environment, Multi-Science
    (http://www.multi-science.co.uk), Hull, United Kingdom
    17. Atholl Sutherland Brown, PhD (Geology, Princeton University),
    Regional Geology, Tectonics and Mineral Deposits, Victoria, British
    Columbia, Canada
    18. Stephen C. Brown, PhD (Environmental Science, State University of
    New York), District Agriculture Agent, Assistant Professor, University of
    Alaska Fairbanks, Ground Penetrating Radar Glacier research, Palmer, Alaska,
    U.S.A.
    19. James Buckee, D.Phil. (Oxon), focus on stellar atmospheres, Calgary,
    Alberta, Canada
    20. Dan Carruthers, M.Sc., Arctic Animal Behavioural Ecologist, wildlife
    biology consultant specializing in animal ecology in Arctic and Subarctic
    regions, Alberta, Canada
    21. Robert M. Carter, PhD, Professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory,
    James Cook University, Townsville, Australia
    22. Dr. Arthur V. Chadwick, PhD, Geologist, dendrochronology (analyzing
    tree rings to determine past climate) lecturing, Southwestern Adventist
    University, Keene, Texas, U.S.A.
    23. George V. Chilingar, PhD, Member, Russian Academy of Sciences,
    Moscow President, Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, U.S.A. Section,
    Emeritus Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering, University of
    Southern California, Los Angeles, California, U.S.A.
    24. Ian D. Clark, PhD, Professor (isotope hydrogeology and
    paleoclimatology), Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa, Ottawa,
    Ontario, Canada
    25. Charles A. Clough, BS (Mathematics, Massachusetts Institute of
    Technology), MS (Atmospheric Science, Texas Tech University), former (to
    2006) Chief of the US Army Atmospheric Effects Team at Aberdeen Proving
    Ground, Maryland; now residing in Bel Air, Maryland, U.S.A.
    26. Paul Copper, BSc, MSc, PhD, DIC, FRSC, Professor Emeritus,
    Department of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University Sudbury, Ontario, Canada

    27. Piers Corbyn, MSc (Physics (Imperial College London)), ARCS, FRAS,
    FRMetS, astrophysicist (Queen Mary College, London), consultant, founder
    WeatherAction long range forecasters, London, United Kingdom
    28. Allan Cortese, meteorological researcher and spotter for the
    National Weather Service, retired computer professional, Billerica,
    Massachusetts, U.S.A.
    29. Richard S. Courtney, PhD, energy and environmental consultant, IPCC
    expert reviewer, Falmouth, Cornwall, United Kingdom
    30. Susan Crockford, PhD (Zoology/Evolutionary Biology/Archaeozoology),
    Adjunct Professor (Anthropology/Faculty of Graduate Studies), University of
    Victoria, Victoria, British Colombia, Canada
    31. Claude Culross, PhD (Organic Chemistry), retired, Baton Rouge,
    Louisiana, U.S.A.
    32. Joseph D?Aleo, BS, MS (Meteorology, University of Wisconsin),
    Doctoral Studies (NYU), Executive Director – ICECAP (International Climate
    and Environmental Change Assessment Project), Fellow of the AMS, College
    Professor Climatology/Meteorology, First Director of Meteorology The Weather
    Channel, Hudson, New Hampshire, U.S.A.
    33. Chris R. de Freitas, PhD, Climate Scientist, School of Environment,
    The University of Auckland, New Zealand
    34. Willem de Lange, MSc (Hons), DPhil (Computer and Earth Sciences),
    Senior Lecturer in Earth and Ocean Sciences, Waikato University, Hamilton,
    New Zealand
    35. James DeMeo, PhD (University of Kansas 1986, Earth/Climate Science),
    now in Private Research, Ashland, Oregon, U.S.A.
    36. David Deming, PhD (Geophysics), Associate Professor, College of Arts
    and Sciences, University of Oklahoma, Norman, Oklahoma, U.S.A.
    37. James E Dent; B.Sc., FCIWEM, C.Met, FRMetS, C.Env., Independent
    Consultant, Member of WMO OPACHE Group on Flood Warning, Hadleigh, Suffolk,
    England
    38. Robert W. Durrenberger, PhD, former Arizona State Climatologist and
    President of the American Association of State Climatologists, Professor
    Emeritus of Geography, Arizona State University; Sun City, Arizona, U.S.A.
    39. Don J. Easterbrook, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Geology, Western
    Washington, University, Bellingham, Washington, U.S.A.
    40. Per Engene, MSc, Biologist, Bø i Telemark, Norway, Co-author The
    Climate. Science and Politics (2009)
    41. Robert H. Essenhigh, PhD, E.G. Bailey Professor of Energy
    Conversion, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State University,
    Columbus, Ohio, U.S.A.
    42. David Evans, PhD (EE), MSc (Stat), MSc (EE), MA (Math), BE (EE),
    BSc, mathematician, carbon accountant and modeler, computer and electrical
    engineer and head of 'Science Speak', Scientific Advisory Panel member -
    Australian Climate Science Coalition, Perth, Western Australia, Australia
    43. Sören Floderus, PhD (Physical Geography (Uppsala University)),
    coastal-environment specialization, Copenhagen, Denmark
    44. Louis Fowler, BS (Mathematics), MA (Physics), 33 years in
    environmental measurements (Ambient Air Quality Measurements), Austin,
    Texas, U.S.A.
    45. Stewart Franks, PhD, Professor, Hydroclimatologist, University of
    Newcastle, Australia
    46. Gordon Fulks, PhD (Physics, University of Chicago), cosmic
    radiation, solar wind, electromagnetic and geophysical phenomena, Corbett,
    Oregon, U.S.A.
    47. R. W. Gauldie, PhD, Research Professor, Hawai'i Institute of
    Geophysics and Planetology, School of Ocean Earth Sciences and Technology,
    University of Hawai'i at Manoa (Retired), U.S.A.
    48. David G. Gee, Professor of Geology (Emeritus), Department of Earth
    Sciences, Uppsala University, Villavagen 16, Uppsala, Sweden
    49. Lee C. Gerhard, PhD, Senior Scientist Emeritus, University of
    Kansas, past director and state geologist, Kansas Geological Survey, U.S.A.
    50. Gerhard Gerlich, Dr.rer.nat. (Mathematical Physics:
    Magnetohydrodynamics) habil. (Real Measure Manifolds), Professor, Institut
    für Mathematische Physik, Technische Universität Carolo-Wilhelmina zu
    Braunschweig, Braunschweig, Germany, Co-author of ?Falsification Of The
    Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics?,
    Int.J.Mod.Phys.,2009
    51. Albrecht Glatzle, PhD, ScAgr, Agro-Biologist and Gerente ejecutivo,
    Tropical pasture research and land use management, Director científico de
    INTTAS, Loma Plata, Paraguay
    52. Fred Goldberg, PhD, Adj Professor, Royal Institute of Technology
    (Mech, Eng.), Secretary General KTH International Climate Seminar 2006 and
    Climate analyst and member of NIPCC, Lidingö, Sweden
    53. Wayne Goodfellow, PhD (Earth Science), Ocean Evolution,
    Paleoenvironments, Adjunct Professor, Senior Research Scientist, University
    of Ottawa, Geological Survey of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    54. Thomas B. Gray, MS, Meteorology, Retired, USAF, Yachats, Oregon,
    U.S.A.
    55. Vincent Gray, PhD, New Zealand Climate Coalition, expert reviewer
    for the IPCC, author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of Climate
    Change 2001, Wellington, New Zealand
    56. William M. Gray, PhD, Professor Emeritus, Dept. of Atmospheric
    Science, Colorado State University, Head of the Tropical Meteorology
    Project, Fort Collins, Colorado, U.S.A.
    57. Kenneth P. Green, M.Sc. (Biology, University of San Diego) and a
    Doctorate in Environmental Science and Engineering from the University of
    California at Los Angeles, Resident Scholar, American Enterprise Institute,
    Washington, DC, U.S.A.
    58. Charles B. Hammons, PhD (Applied Mathematics), systems/software
    engineering, modeling & simulation, design, Consultant, Coyle, Oklahoma,
    U.S.A.
    59. William Happer, PhD, Cyrus Fogg Bracket Professor of Physics
    (research focus is interaction of light and matter, a key mechanism for
    global warming and cooling), Princeton University; Former Director, Office
    of Energy Research (now Office of Science), US Department of Energy
    (supervised climate change research), Member – National Academy of Sciences
    of the USA, American Academy of Arts and Sciences, American Philosophical
    Society; Princeton, NJ, USA.
    60. Howard Hayden, PhD, Emeritus Professor (Physics), University of
    Connecticut, The Energy Advocate, Connecticut, U.S.A.
    61. Ross Hays, Atmospheric Scientist, NASA Columbia Scientific Balloon
    Facility, Palestine, Texas, U.S.A.
    62. James A. Heimbach, Jr., BA Physics (Franklin and Marshall College),
    Master's and PhD in Meteorology (Oklahoma University), Prof. Emeritus of
    Atmospheric Sciences (University of North Carolina at Asheville),
    Springvale, Maine, U.S.A.
    63. Ole Humlum, PhD, Professor, Department of Physical Geography,
    Institute of Geosciences, University of Oslo, Oslo, Norway
    64. Craig D. Idso, PhD, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Center
    for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change, Tempe, Arizona, U.S.A.
    65. Sherwood B. Idso, PhD, President, Center for the Study of Carbon
    Dioxide and Global Change, Tempe, Arizona, U.S.A.
    66. Terri Jackson, MSc MPhil., Director, Independent Climate Research
    Group, Northern Ireland and London (Founder of the Energy Group at the
    Institute of Physics, London), U.K.
    67. Albert F. Jacobs, Geol.Drs., P. Geol., Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    68. Zbigniew Jaworowski, PhD, DSc, professor of natural sciences, Senior
    Science Adviser of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection,
    researcher on ice core CO2 records, Warsaw, Poland.
    69. Terrell Johnson, B.S. (Zoology), M.S. (Wildlife & Range Resources,
    Air & Water Quality), Principal Environmental Engineer, Certified Wildlife
    Biologist, Green River, Wyoming, U.S.A.
    70. Bill Kappel, BS (Physical Science-Geology), BS (Meteorology), Storm
    Analysis, Climatology, Operation Forecasting, Vice President/Senior
    Meteorologist, Applied Weather Associates, LLC, University of Colorado,
    Colorado Springs, U.S.A.
    71. Wibjörn Karlén, MSc (quaternary sciences), PhD (physical geography),
    Professor emeritus, Stockholm University, Department of Social and Economic
    Geography, Geografiska Annaler Ser. A, Uppsala, Sweden
    72. Olavi Kärner, Ph.D., Extraordinary Research Associate; Dept. of
    Atmospheric Physics, Tartu Observatory, Toravere, Estonia
    73. David Kear, PhD, FRSNZ, CMG, geologist, former Director-General of
    NZ Dept. of Scientific & Industrial Research, Whakatane, Bay of Plenty, New
    Zealand
    74. Madhav L. Khandekar, PhD, consultant meteorologist, (former)
    Research Scientist, Environment Canada, Editor “Climate Research? (03-05),
    Editorial Board Member “Natural Hazards, IPCC Expert Reviewer 2007,
    Unionville, Ontario, Canada
    75. Leonid F. Khilyuk, PhD, Science Secretary, Russian Academy of
    Natural Sciences, Professor of Engineering, University of Southern
    California, Los Angeles, California, U.S.A.
    76. William Kininmonth MSc, MAdmin, former head of Australia?s National
    Climate Centre and a consultant to the World Meteorological organization?s
    Commission for Climatology, Kew, Victoria, Australia
    77. Gary Kubat, BS (Atmospheric Science), MS (Atmospheric Science),
    professional meteorologist last 18 years, O'Fallon, Illinois, U.S.A.
    78. Roar Larsen, Dr.ing.(PhD), Chief Scientist, SINTEF (Trondheim,
    Norway), Adjunct Professor, Norwegian University of Science and Technology,
    Trondheim, Norway
    79. Douglas Leahey, PhD, meteorologist and air-quality consultant,
    President – Friends of Science, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
    80. Jay Lehr, BEng (Princeton), PhD (environmental science and ground
    water hydrology), Science Director, The Heartland Institute, Chicago,
    Illinois, U.S.A.
    81. Edward Liebsch, BS (Earth Science & Chemistry), MS (Meteorology,
    Pennsylvania State University), Senior Air Quality Scientist, HDR Inc.,
    Maple Grove, MN, U.S.A.
    82. Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan professor of meteorology,
    Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute
    of Technology, Cambridge, Massachusetts, U.S.A.
    83. Peter Link, BS, MS, PhD (Geology, Climatology),
    Geol/Paleoclimatology, retired, Active in Geol-paleoclimatology, Tulsa
    University and Industry, Evergreen, Colorado, U.S.A.
    84. Anthony R. Lupo, Ph.D., Professor of Atmospheric Science, Department
    of Soil, Environmental, and Atmospheric Science, University of Missouri,
    Columbia, Missouri, U.S.A.
    85. Horst Malberg, PhD, former director of Institute of Meteorology,
    Free University of Berlin, Germany
    86. Björn Malmgren, PhD, Professor Emeritus in Marine Geology,
    Paleoclimate Science, Goteborg University, retired, Norrtälje, Sweden
    87. Fred Michel, PhD, Director, Institute of Environmental Sciences,
    Associate Professor of Earth Sciences, Carleton University, Ottawa, Ontario,
    Canada
    88. Ferenc Mark Miskolczi, PhD, atmospheric physicist, formerly of
    NASA's Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia, U.S.A.
    89. Asmunn Moene, PhD, MSc (Meteorology), former head of the Forecasting
    Centre, Meteorological Institute, Oslo, Norway
    90. Cdr. M. R. Morgan, PhD, FRMetS, climate consultant, former Director
    in marine meteorology policy and planning in DND Canada, NATO and World
    Meteorological Organization and later a research scientist in global
    climatology at Exeter University, UK, now residing in Dartmouth, Nova
    Scotia, Canada
    91. Nils-Axel Mörner, PhD (Sea Level Changes and Climate), Emeritus
    Professor of Paleogeophysics & Geodynamics, Stockholm University, Stockholm,
    Sweden
    92. Robert Neff, M.S. (Meteorology, St Louis University), Weather
    Officer, USAF; Contractor support to NASA Meteorology Satellites, Retired,
    Camp Springs, Maryland, U.S.A.
    93. John Nicol, PhD, Physics, (Retired) James Cook University, Chairman
    - Australian Climate Science Coalition, Brisbane, Australia
    94. Ingemar Nordin, PhD, professor in philosophy of science (including a
    focus on “Climate research, philosophical and sociological aspects of a
    politicised research area”), Linköpings University, Sweden.
    95. David Nowell, M.Sc., Fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society,
    former chairman of the NATO Meteorological Group, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    96. James J. O'Brien, PhD, Emeritus Professor, Meteorology and
    Oceanography, Florida State University, Florida, U.S.A.
    97. Peter Oliver, BSc (Geology), BSc (Hons, Geochemistry & Geophysics),
    MSc (Geochemistry), PhD (Geology), specialized in NZ quaternary glaciations,
    Geochemistry and Paleomagnetism, previously research scientist for the NZ
    Department of Scientific and Industrial Research, Upper Hutt, New Zealand
    98. Cliff Ollier, D.Sc., Professor Emeritus (School of Earth and
    Environment), Research Fellow, University of Western Australia, Nedlands,
    W.A., Australia
    99. Garth W. Paltridge, BSc Hons (Qld), MSc, PhD (Melb), DSc (Qld),
    Emeritus Professor, Honorary Research Fellow and former Director of the
    Institute of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies, University of Tasmania,
    Hobart, Visiting Fellow, RSBS, ANU, Canberra, ACT, Australia
    100. R. Timothy Patterson, PhD, Professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences
    (paleoclimatology), Carleton University, Chair – International Climate
    Science Coalition, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    101. Alfred H. Pekarek, PhD, Associate Professor of Geology, Earth and
    Atmospheric Sciences Department, St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud,
    Minnesota, U.S.A.
    102. Ian Plimer, PhD, Professor of Mining Geology, The University of
    Adelaide; Emeritus Professor of Earth Sciences, The University of Melbourne,
    Australia
    103. Daniel Joseph Pounder, BS (Meteorology, University of Oklahoma), MS
    (Atmospheric Sciences, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign); Weather
    Forecasting, Meteorologist, WILL AM/FM/TV, the public broadcasting station
    of the University of Illinois, Urbana, U.S.A.
    104. Brian Pratt, PhD, Professor of Geology (Sedimentology), University
    of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
    105. Harry N.A. Priem, PhD, Professor (retired) Utrecht University,
    isotope and planetary geology, Past-President Royal Netherlands Society of
    Geology and Mining, former President of the Royal Geological and Mining
    Society of the Netherlands, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
    106. Tom Quirk, MSc (Melbourne), D Phil, MA (Oxford), SMP (Harvard),
    Member of the Scientific Advisory Panel of the Australian Climate Science
    Coalition, Member Board Institute of Public Affairs, Melbourne, Victoria,
    Australia
    107. George A. Reilly, PhD (Geology), Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
    108. Robert G. Roper, PhD, DSc (University of Adelaide, South Australia),
    Emeritus Professor of Atmospheric Sciences, Georgia Institute of Technology,
    Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.A.
    109. Arthur Rorsch, PhD, Emeritus Professor, Molecular Genetics, Leiden
    University, retired member board Netherlands Organization Applied Research
    TNO, Leiden, The Netherlands
    110. Curt Rose, BA, MA (University of Western Ontario), MA, PhD (Clark
    University), Professor Emeritus, Department of Environmental Studies and
    Geography, Bishop's University, Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
    111. Rob Scagel, MSc (forest microclimate specialist), Principal
    Consultant – Pacific Phytometric Consultants, Surrey, British Columbia,
    Canada
    112. Clive Schaupmeyer, B.Sc., M.Sc., Professional Agrologist (awarded an
    Alberta “Distinguished Agrologist”), 40 years of weather and climate studies
    with respect to crops, Coaldale, Alberta, Canada
    113. Bruce Schwoegler, BS (Meteorology and Naval Science, University of
    Wisconsin-Madison), Chief Technology Officer, MySky Communications Inc,
    meteorologist, science writer and principal/co-founder of MySky, Lakeville,
    Massachusetts, U.S.A.
    114. John Shade, BS (Physics), MS (Atmospheric Physics), MS (Applied
    Statistics), Industrial Statistics Consultant, GDP, Dunfermline, Scotland,
    United Kingdom
    115. Gary Sharp, PhD, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas,
    California, U.S.A.
    116. Thomas P. Sheahen, PhD (Physics, Massachusetts Institute of
    Technology), specialist in renewable energy, research and publication
    (Applied Optics) in modeling and measurement of absorption of infrared
    radiation by atmospheric CO2, Oakland, Maryland, U.S.A.
    117. Paavo Siitam, M.Sc., agronomist and chemist, Cobourg, Ontario,
    Canada
    118. L. Graham Smith, PhD, Associate Professor of Geography, specialising
    in Resource Management, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario,
    Canada.
    119. Roy W. Spencer, PhD, climatologist, Principal Research Scientist,
    Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, Huntsville, Alabama,
    U.S.A.
    120. Walter Starck, PhD (Biological Oceanography), marine biologist
    (specialization in coral reefs and fisheries), author, photographer,
    Townsville, Australia
    121. Peter Stilbs, TeknD, Professor of Physical Chemistry, Research
    Leader, School of Chemical Science and Engineering, Royal Institute of
    Technology (KTH), member of American Chemical Society and life member of
    American Physical Society, Chair of “Global Warming – Scientific
    Controversies in Climate Variability”, International seminar meeting at KTH,
    2006, Stockholm, Sweden
    122. Arlin Super, PhD (Meteorology), former Professor of Meteorology at
    Montana State University, retired Research Meteorologist, U.S. Bureau of
    Reclamation, Saint Cloud, Minnesota, U.S.A.
    123. George H. Taylor, B.A. (Mathematics, U.C. Santa Barbara), M.S.
    (Meteorology, University of Utah), Certified Consulting Meteorologist,
    Applied Climate Services, LLC, Former State Climatologist (Oregon),
    President, American Association of State Climatologists (1998-2000),
    Corvallis, Oregon, U.S.A.
    124. Mitchell Taylor, PhD, Biologist (Polar Bear Specialist), Wildlife
    Research Section, Department of Environment, Igloolik, Nunavut, Canada
    125. Hendrik Tennekes, PhD, former director of research, Royal
    Netherlands Meteorological Institute, Arnhem, The Netherlands
    126. Frank Tipler, PhD, Professor of Mathematical Physics, astrophysics,
    Tulane University, New Orleans, Louisiana, U.S.A.
    127. Edward M. Tomlinson, MS (Meteorology), Ph.D. (Meteorology,
    University of Utah), President, Applied Weather Associates, LLC (leader in
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    128. Ralf D. Tscheuschner, Dr.rer.nat. (Theoretical physics: Quantum
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    129. Gerrit J. van der Lingen, PhD (Utrecht University), geologist and
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    130. A.J. (Tom) van Loon, PhD, Professor of Geology (Quaternary Geology),
    Adam Mickiewicz University, Poznan, Poland; former President of the European
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    131. Gösta Walin, PhD in Theoretical physics, Professor emeritus in
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    132. Neil Waterhouse, PhD (Physics, Thermal, Precise Temperature
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    133. Anthony Watts, 25-year broadcast meteorology veteran and currently
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    135. James Weeg, BS (Geology), MS (Environmental Science), Professional
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    136. Forese-Carlo Wezel, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Stratigraphy (global
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    137. Boris Winterhalter, PhD, senior marine researcher (retired),
    Geological Survey of Finland, former adjunct professor in marine geology,
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  12. gulama says:

    go to your car and take a breath of poluted CO2 (or let your children take a breath of it) then tell us again that CO2 and polution is not a problem!

    and if you have the choice between free energy and spending all your money for some dirty energy tell us again that you would like to pay for energy instead of geting it for free

    to deny climate change and to argue with things like “co2 is not a problem” or “polution is not a problem for oure children” or “free energy is a stupid hype” id far away from any logic!

    if you realy wana proofe that co2 is not a problem make a video of you brathing the dirt coming from your car and put it on yourube

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