UPDATED: NY Senate Votes NO on Gay Marriage This Afternoon
UPDATE 3 PM ET — Gothamist:
…the New York State Senate voted 38-24 against a bill to legalize same-sex marriage. The bill was finally brought to the floor for an up or down vote today after overcoming legislative roadblocks from opponents. During the emotional debate, one of the bill’s sponsors, State Senator Thomas K. Duane of Manhattan, who is gay, said, “This legislation would merely provide me and tens of thousands of other New Yorkers with equal rights in New York State. It would make me equal in every way to everyone else in this chamber.”
UPDATE @ 2:44 PM: The Senate is voting right now.
Debate is going on now. Watch it live. The NYTimes:
The State Senate scheduled a vote for Wednesday about whether to legalize same-sex marriage, but the outcome remained uncertain with people on both sides of the debate conceding they did not know how the vote would play out.
By clearing the path for a vote, Senate Democrats have removed the last remaining obstacle for a debate on the same-sex marriage bill, which has never been put to a vote in the Senate despite repeated efforts by gay rights advocates.
But Democrats, who have a bare, one-seat majority, do not have enough votes to pass the bill without some Republican support.
Senate Republicans said Wednesday morning that they believed their members could provide a few votes for the bill, but it was not certain whether those votes would be enough to offset the handful of Democratic no votes that are anticipated.
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107 Responses to “UPDATED: NY Senate Votes NO on Gay Marriage This Afternoon”
“As far as the penal-vaginal thing…..Yes, that too can cause infection. But not in a normal state. If men or women do not practice standard hygeine, it can happen frequently. “
Untrue. True for men, perhaps. For women, even those who keep themselves clean and stick with clean partners, can get infections every single time they have sex.
Well said, Roro.
I really hate to have to revisit this thread after a couple of days, JD, but if your perusal of comparative psychology informed you in any way, shape, or form, I have to know what it was. Like Sil before you, I have supplied you links to the APA, you know, those fine folks who actually publish a journal called The Journal of Comparative Psychology? I simply give up and wish to not even bother on this issue with either of you. And comments like
make me want to question discussing anything with you. Perhaps you were making a joke, but there's a lot of folks out there who don't think its funny.
You know what, F_T? I don't care if pro-gay biggots (sic) bore you. Welcome to the world, which has its boring and interesting sides. As for me, I find old homophobic men who either can't spell, or can't use the spell-check function both annoying and boring, but I don't want to limit their right to marry the person they love.
Hey jchem –
JD's understanding of the issue notwithstanding, the “fag to English dictionary” bit was a quip from the link I provided. So he's wrong, wrong, wrong, but at least in this case he's not an *sshole.
roro, thanks for the heads up. My apologies, JD, for jumping to conclusions
These are my thoughts on Ms. Silhouette's “ability and wisdom” in “comparative psychology “as I have expressed them on anotrher thread:
Of course, you and others are welcome to keep praising such “comparative psychology”