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Forgive Them For They Know Not What They Do

Check out the Colbert video above. Funny, as always, it’s a strident mocking of the Mormon Church for a gay kiss incident in Salt Lake City last summer. Police handcuffed and cited a gay couple for “kissing and hugging” on the city’s Main Street. That part of the street, it turns out, was bought by the church. Main Street in downtown Salt Lake is church property.

Lesbian and Gay people won the culture war long ago; it’s a small, highly motivated minority, frightened by the pace of change, that continues to hold us legal hostage. When freedom comes, supporters of state sanctioned bigotry will look back embarrassed. Until then, they’re fodder for bloggers and late night comics.

While voters scored a victory for equality in Kalamazoo, MI (!!!) and approved Washington State’s Referendum 71 (”everything but marriage”), early optimism for a surprise win in Maine proved to be wrong. Nate Silver digs into what happened and why:

Question 1. Maine votes Yes on Question 1 — which means no on gay marriage — by a margin of about 52-48. Turnout was extremely high and should eventually surpass 500,000 voters, about where it was during the 2006 midterms. This fact was initially thought to favor the pro-gay marriage side — but, obviously, it didn’t. The results showed a very strong urban-rural divide, with the initiative being rejected by a margin of about 2:1 in Portland but racking up big margins in smaller towns and rural areas, especially in the north of the state.

We had given Question 1 about a 70 percent chance of being defeated based on a combination of an analysis of the polling and a statistical model. I don’t know how much time I’m supposed to spend defending being on the wrong side of a 70:30 bet — we build in a hedge for a reason — but here comes a little self-reflection. As for the polling, I think we have to seriously consider whether there is some sort of a Bradley Effect in the polling on gay rights issues, although one of the pollsters (PPP, which had a very bad night in NY-23) got it exactly right. As for the model, I think I’ll need to look whether the urban-rural divide is a significant factor in a state in addition to its religiosity: Maine is secular, but rural. At the end of the day, it may have been too much to ask of a state to vote to approve gay marriage in an election where gay marriage itself was the headline issue on the ballot. Although the enthusiasm gap is very probably narrowing, feelings about gay marriage have traditionally been much stronger on the right than the left, and that’s what gets people up off the couch in off-year elections.

I certainly don’t think the No on 1 campaign can be blamed; by every indication, they ran a tip-top operation whereas the Yes on 1 folks were amateurish. But this may not be an issue where the campaign itself matters very much; people have pretty strong feelings about the gay marriage issue and are not typically open to persuasion. There’s going to be an effort by many on the left to blame Barack Obama for his lack of leadership on gay rights issues; I think the criticism is correct on its face, but I don’t know how much it has to do with the defeat in Maine. A more popular Democratic governor, for instance, who had been a bit quicker on the trigger in his support of gay marriage, might have helped more.

I’m not among those blaming Obama. And I’m not fretting about the Democratic election losses last night being blamed on him. Republicans should savor their slight victories. Those wins, rooted as they are in propagated fear, will give Obama’s side focus in 2010.

  • JSpencer
    "The results showed a very strong urban-rural divide,"

    I expect there was also a strong divide between the more and less educated.

  • Davebo
    One correction. It wasn't police who handcuffed them but, I believe, Mormon security staff.
  • redbus
    You suspect? Actually, there are many highly educated people who nevertheless are opposed to gay "marriage." The correct moniker here might be educated conservative, a self-description I found on the FaceBook page of one of my college-graduate friends.
  • JWindish
    Thanks Davebo. From the reporting I couldn't figure out who did the shoving and cuffing. I thought it would be only the police who had authority to do that.
  • JSpencer
    "Expect", not "suspect". My comment was not about whether educated conservatives who are opposed to gay marriage exist (they surely do), but about the breakdown. There are likely more educated people in urban as opposed to rural areas for that matter, and I have no doubt there is a correlation between levels of education and attitudes about gay marriage in general, not to mention a host of other issues, up to and including global warming. My comment was a response to the Nate Silver article... which I assume you read.
  • Father_Time
    Well I saw it and the kissing was indeed disgusting and should be banned. It is in many places and as well it is legal to fire somebody because they are gay in several states. This should be nation wide IMO. It has nothing to do with religion. It is a disgusting sub-culture based on a mental illness and will never be normalized. Places where it has been “normalized” are regretting it and are actively working to turn the laws back around.

    I am a liberal, but not stupid.
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