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Fears Grow Among Some GOPers That Republicans Getting Too Extreme

A zilllion blog posts on centrist, liberal and progressive Republican websites have addressed part of this but now the Los Angeles Times brings it all together: there are growing fears that the Republican conservative resurgence is being matched by a drift to the extremes.

It’s not a small issue — IF a party’s goal is to not just consolidate its base but to expand its “customers” to include those who need to be sold and convinced:

Amid a rebirth of conservative activism that could help Republicans win elections next year, some party insiders now fear that extreme rhetoric and conspiracy theories coming from the angry reaches of the conservative base are undermining the GOP’s broader credibility and casting it as the party of the paranoid.

Such insiders point to theories running rampant on the Internet, such as the idea that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus ineligible to be president, or that he is a communist, or that his allies want to set up Nazi-like detention camps for political opponents. Those theories, the insiders say, have stoked the GOP base and have created a “purist” climate in which a figure such as Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) is lionized for his “You lie!” outburst last week when Obama addressed Congress.

They are “wild accusations and the paranoid delusions coming from the fever swamps,” said David Frum, a conservative author and speechwriter for President George W. Bush who is among the more vocal critics of the party base and of the conservative talk show hosts helping to fan the unrest.

Frum will immediately be dismissed by some Republicans as an example of a turncoat — someone who criticizes the party and isn’t a real Republican in the 21st century context because he has lambasted the party’s dominant talk show political culture base.

But this is part of the problem: can the GOP win elections by just getting out its base? The answer is YES if Democrats disappointed with Obama stay home on election day. The answer is NO if the Democrats vote and the always fussy independents — it is not a monolithic block — trend more towards Obama than to the GOP. More:

“Like all conservatives, I am concerned about this administration’s accumulation of economic power,” Frum said. “Still, you have to be aware that there’s a line where legitimate concerns begin to collapse into paranoid fantasy.”

Frum and other establishment Republicans have spoken out in recent days against the influence of what they view as their party’s fringe elements.

Some are pressuring the Republican National Committee and other mainstream GOP groups to cut ties with WorldNetDaily.com, which reports some of the allegations. Its articles are cited by websites and pundits on the right. More than any other group, critics say, WorldNetDaily sets the conservative fringe agenda.

Critics charge that the RNC has paid WorldNetDaily for access to its mailing list, estimated to number in the hundreds of thousands, and that the RNC is therefore subsidizing the website’s anti-Obama writings.

RNC spokeswoman Gail Gitcho did not respond to questions on the matter.

And there is a lot more. Read the piece in full.

Yet another problem is that by essentially suggesting that Obama is not a legitimate President or one who doesn’t deserve the centuries old courtesy of being a President who addresses Congress without being heckled by a member of the opposition calling him a liar to his face (an apology was later issued but it increasingly seems like a non-apology apology) precisely how do Republicans think partisan and angry Democrats are going to respond when the election cycle shifts and Republicans inevitably win back the White House one day? The argument to out of line Democrats that a Republican President should be treated with respect will be hard to make if a Democratic President has been treated with disdain and contempt.

Twilight Zone politics could exact a price — and there are people within the GOP, traditional conservatives, Republican moderates and the small number of Republican progressives, who see these dangers.

Does the party want to expand its base? Or be a party of its existing base?

The other part of the coin is: can Obama keep his party’s base and hold onto some of the Democratic expansion of 2008?

If you look at it, there is a scenario that could lead to a Republican restoration. But the stage is being set for meg-partisanship to accentuate in the 21st century.

  • DLS
    If the current level of mischaracterization and obscession by the extreme Left isn't bad enough, imagine how low they'll be toward everyone else if the public option fails to be included in the health legislation that Obama finally will sign someday.
  • Silhouette
    I don't know why but once again I smell Dick Cheney behind all of it. If he can milk and trump up paranoia he can maintain his precious atmosphere of fear. He had a great gig going for BigOil for years with that one, the Iraq invasion. I mean sky's the limit what you can get the herd to do when they're running spooked. All that time in Wyoming and I think the Dickster picked up a trick or two.

    Yeah, dont' know why...just got a feeling is all...

    *chews on a piece of straw, tilts Stetson back and looks up at the heavens.*

    You know when people are running scared, they tend to vote republican [establishment] if I remember PSYOPS 101 at all. hmmmm?



  • Rambie
    "The argument to out of line Democrats that a Republican President should be treated with respect will be hard to make if a Democratic President has been treated with disdain and contempt."

    Short term memory, some of those who are protesting against President Obama were not too long ago calling anyone who protested against the President "Anti-american", "terrorist sympathizers", and others.
  • GeorgeSorwell
    About two weeks ago, there was a Rassmussen Poll that said Republican voters were very unhappy with elected Republicans.

    "Seventy-four percent (74%) of Republican voters say their party’s representatives in Congress have lost touch with GOP voters nationwide over the past several years."

    "just 18% of GOP voters believe their elected officials have done a good job representing the base. "

    "Most Republican voters (55%) say that the average Republican in Congress is more liberal than the average Republican voter."

    Republicans are extreme in response to the wishes of their base.
  • Leonidas
    Both Democrats and Republicans have lost touch with their moderates. I wish the moderates of both parties would throw off the nutcases on both sides and form their own party. Even if it starts smalle like the Blue Dog Democrats and the moderate republicans in Congress it would still have the swing votes.

    I could support a Liebermann/Collins ticket.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    And yet they will still come out and vote for them next year.
  • Leonidas
    And yet they will still come out and vote for them next year


    Sadly yes, because there usually is not a viable option. I think it will actually take a drastic move by moderates in office to break away from the democratic and republican parties. Until such a move happens with members from both sides not many will support it. Right leaning moderates are not willing to split their party if only the democrats will benefit, and left leaning moderates are not willing to split their party if only republicans will benefit. It will likely require a major move by the moderates of both parties to achieve this.
  • StockBoySF
    "Both Democrats and Republicans have lost touch with their moderates."

    I don't think the Democrats have lost touch with their moderates. The GOP calls Democrats every foul name and uses every looney description to describe Dems, with terms like Nazi, Socialist, child-molester, etc. The GOP also grossly and profoundly distorts any Democratic legislation as being wildly communist.

    Such blatant lies and characterizations, attacks not only on the legislation but on the Democrats character, by the GOP distort the truth and make it difficult for most Americans to find the truth, try as they might.

    I wish the Democrats would fight back more and call out the GOP on their garbage.
  • tidbits
    StockBoySF - You said "I don't believe the Democrats have lost touch with their moderates..." My recollection, correct me if I'm wrong, is that it wasn't more than a few weeks ago when liberals were attacking Blue Dogs, including ad campaigns, to try to coerce moderates into going along with the liberal agenda including health care and cap-&-trade. They went so far as to accuse moderates of being in the pocket of the insurance industry as I recall. Didn't the WH intervene and ask that the internal warfare stop? Or did I imagine that?

    Democrats may not have completely "lost touch" with their moderates, but they certainly don't treat them with much respect. One clear example: a pro-life Democrat has as little chance of being on a national ticket as does a pro-choice Republican.
  • Leonidas
    The word DINO are appearing among the Progressives in the same way RINO has been used by the far-right. Birds of a feather.
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