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Can You Say Scumbag?
Jul 20th, 2009 | 23 responses
Here’s Ralph Peters telling a Fox News anchor that Pfc. Bowe Bergdahl is a deserter and a traitor and that the Taliban should spare the U.S. his legal costs and kill him:
The Fox anchor appears shocked but trying not to show it.
Via No More Mister Nice Blog.
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23 Responses to “Can You Say Scumbag?”
Fair and Balanced!?
That is the Fox balance. Peters is the voice of Fox and other wingnuts…
So, if indeed he did walk away from camp, then why is saying that he did so he is a deserter inappropriate?
It is always inappropriate to favor the Taliban over the US Military, AustinRoth. Peters is Judge and Jury and Investigating Officer, and then he cheers on the Taliban.
Two Questions for you and Peters:
1. whenever the Taliban kidnaps an American soldier they should be assumed a deserter until proven otherwise?
2. we should thank the Taliban for “doing us the favor” of executing our soldiers?
Whose country do you back?
It is inappropriate to assume a soldier is a deserter and a traitor. These kinds of charges should be proven before taken up by the media. I know we like to persecute before trial, but we should show our soldiers a little more respect.
WTF are you talking about? All I said is that there are indications that this specific soldier, in this specific case, left his base without permission and alone, in a compbat zone. I even used words like “if” because it is not known at this moment that it is indeed the case. But it appears there is a good chance.
“If” indeed that is what happened, then that is desertion. That is ALL I said, and nothing more.
Where did I favor the Taliban over the US Military? Where did I say anything supporting the statement whenever the Taliban kidnaps an American soldier they should be assumed a deserter until proven otherwise? Where did I say anything remotely like we should thank the Taliban for “doing us the favor” of executing our soldiers?
Now, please go self-copulate.
What is the point of posting a defense of Colonel Peters, who favors shooting the Media in a War Zone and who said the Taliban would be doing us a favor if this guy deserted as Peters suggested he knew?
Your point is that “if someone deserts, then they have deserted?”
Do you know something we do not know about this unfortunate young man?
Why are you speculating that someone held by the Taliban may be a deserter? What facts do you have?
But, even under the notion that this kid ran away in Afghaistan, I still am on his side not The Taliban's. He is scared and wants to come home and he is captured by vicious killers.
I stand with him, not Peters.
There is a reason why Peters could never make it beyond Lieutenant Colonel over 22 years.
The man is and always has been an idiot.
And Austin, why do you feel it is likely that he deserted? Do you have even one scintilla of evidence to support this supposition other than the insane ramblings of the Lieutenant Colonel?
Davebo -
Because there is no report of any type of a capture during military actions, and other places have floated this rumor.
But the main point I am TRYING to make is not is he or is he not a deserter, but “if” he did leave as described, and this man obviously feels he did, then why is it wrong for him to use the word deserter?
I did not say that he then deserved to be captured if true, I did not say I agree that he is being treasonous, etc.
Why did I say anything? Hell, this board and 80% of the discussions here are based on speculations and our opinions of those speculations.
“Because there is no report of any type of a capture during military actions, and other places have floated this rumor. “
Wouldn't it have been a lot easier Austin to just say “no, I don't have any evidence”?
If you want to defend Peter's statement then do so so.
As it is, your just playing the contrarian.
“and other places have floated this rumor. “
That's all it is at this point, and especially coming from FOX, a vicious rumor
Who is playing contrarian??? I made ONE comment about one specific point of an otherwise offensive statement, and everyone wants me to be Peters and the Taliban's apologist.
It's enough to make us wish Kathy would post another ode to her lefty deposed president in Honduras.
By the way, Kathy, I like his hat.
All I said is that there are indications that this specific soldier, in this specific case, left his base without permission and alone, in a combat zone.
Yes, and that speculation implies a negative judgment that is completely inappropriate at this time. There is ONLY ONE thing that matters right now, and that is for the U.S. government to do everything in its power to get Bowe Bergdahl back home safe and unharmed, and for the rest of us to pray for Bergdahl to stay strong and hopeful. To do anything else at this time is deeply wrong and something I would think conservatives especially would want to avoid, since it probably gives a very interesting impression to the Taliban when they see Americans accusing a fellow American in enemy hands of being a deserter, and in some cases having tried and convicted him already and called for his execution. That's really the way we want our enemies to think about Americans' concern for their own citizens, isn't it?
Sure, DLS, if you'll contribute another ode of your own to military coups and banana republic dictators. Maybe you can reminisce nostalgically about September 11. 1973?
Re “his hat”: I have no clue what you're talking about, but don't tell me, because it doesn't interest me.
I think AR was correct to bring it up as this is starting to appear in more than one place……..
I’ve been reporting for over a week (along with the AP and WaPo) that Bowe Bergdahl, the US soldier who’s gone missing in eastern Afghanistan, walked off the base on his own accord.
Now, somebody close to the people searching for Bergdahl has repeated this assertion saying that the soldier left “a note behind that said he was going to the mountains to find himself. He took a journal and 4 or 5 knives with him.” My source tells me that Bergdahl arrived at a village and asked if anybody spoke English. That’s when he was captured.
My source tells me that there is no doubt Bergdahl deserted, which in a time of war is punishable by a court martial at the least, or even execution.
http://trueslant.com/pjtobia/2009/07/20/source-…
Does the possibility of the captive man being a deserter actually have any bearing on whether or not what Peters said was wildly inappropriate? I mean, even within the context of the military, if you break the law, you get put on trial and receive the punishment for that crime — if that's execution, well, I don't agree with it, but it would be the result of some sort of process that Bergdahl agreed to when enlisting. But Peters is calling for the Taliban to kill him. That's still a pretty awful thing to say.
Someone said that we should wait for all the facts to come in before we judge, try, and sentence this young man. I think this might be a good idea
And when and if this young man is found guilty of some wrongdoing,—by a properly adjudicated court-martial, if his wrongdoing is that serious— perhaps we may want the U.S. military to render justice and sentencing, and the execution of such sentence, rather than the Taliban.
Just a thought…
My source tells me that there is no doubt Bergdahl deserted, which in a time of war is punishable by a court martial at the least, or even execution.
Oh well of course, then, your “source” must be right, C.O. Your source said there's no doubt, which is reason number one that there is no doubt; and “this is starting to appear in more than one place,” which is reason number two why (a) there is no doubt, and (b) you absolutely have to repeat it. You have to, C.O. We understand that. You have no choice. Other people are starting to say it. You have to say it, too. And besides, there's no doubt.
Ralph Peters is a disgusting excuse for a human being. How and why has this scumbag been given credence as the US military's analyst/spokesperson/waste-of-space on television? I am appalled by his responses and personal thoughts regarding the state of PFC Bergdahl and if spoken on his own he should be tarred, feathered and publicly disgraced and denounced for portraying the US military to be as cold-hearted, altruistic and ruthless as he just did. Regardless of the situation – still yet unknown, this is about a young, fairly recent addition to the US Army's pawn in a war for NOTHING and some restraint, respect and consideration for a human being born on US soil should be shown to those who have no choice but to follow orders regardless of what common sense and the REST of the world dictates. Mr. Peters, thank your lucky stars that I'm a nobody in Canada. If I had any say or persuasion, it would be your certain fate that I would personally offer to drop your sorry fat old cynical unfeeling useless a$$ into the hands of the Taliban in exchange for PFC Bowe Bergdahl without a second thought or regard for YOUR demise. I'd be ashamed to be related or associated to you right about now. You and whomever put you in the position to publicly show your ugly face and give you the freedom to spew such disgusting/unpatriotic words against one of your fellow citizens on national TV repulses me to no extent. You are PRECISELY the type of person who gives Americans a bad name. Now you know.
hey i was just wondering if any of you are over here looking for him he is a scumbag and he has cost our soldiers their lives looking for his dumbass. he walked off base on his own free will. fuck him
i think its funny that the american public only has an opinion when they dont know what they are talking about, if the soldiers were aloud to comment more on what really happen i would love for you to hear what we have to say because we are the ones searching for him, dieing for him. the american public always has the weird thing they do, they speak before they know the truth, none of you are here and yet you think this kid is a hero, but you only know what you saw in the video, none of you, even deserve to comment on the situation at hand because your not here. let us do our jobs and when its time for you to know what is really happening we will tell you.
just to comment on a couple of you that wernt talking out of your asses, yes it is a terrible thing to say that the talliban should do us a favor, but the again how many other us forces do have to die to keep looking for him. one deserter 6 to 10 american soldiers that do stand behind their country, any way you do the math your going to get the same answer. do you people think people dieing in paktika being on the rise was just a coincidoence? thats to kathykattenburg and lisaon for having you head jammed so far up your own liberal asses!!! come fight the war then you can comment on it!!!