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“Unwinnable” War In Afghanistan? A Final Realization?

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US defense secretary Robert M. Gates has stated an obvious fact: The troops in Afghanistan “are tired…and the American people are pretty tired.” So, what next (or new)?

In an ominous use of the word “unwinnable”, once used by the legendary media person the late Walter Cronkite to turn public opinion against the Vietnam war, defense secretary Gates (photo above) says that “after eight years, U.S.-led forces must show progress in Afghanistan by next summer to avoid the public perception that the conflict has become unwinnable.”

The LA Times reports that in a sharp critique of the war effort, Gates said that victory was a “long-term prospect” under any scenario and that the U.S. would not win the war in a year’s time.” However, U.S. forces must begin to turn the situation around in a year, he said, or face the likely loss of public support.”

Does the US defense secretary expect the US and the allied soldiers to use a magic wand when Gates actually knows that the Afghanistan war is becoming “unwinnable”? Isn’t it a pathetic scenario that instead of Washington seeking a diplomatic strategy to exit from Afghanistan, the US administration is pleading with the US and allied forces to achieve an impossible goal? More here…

Gates’ confessional statement comes in the wake of extremist attacks that rose dramatically last year and U.S. and NATO troop casualties surpassed record levels. “A U.S. fighter jet crashed on Saturday, killing the two crew members and bringing the number of Western deaths in Afghanistan to at least 50 in July, the deadliest month yet (this year).”

To top it all, the Taliban have released a 28-minute video showing a US soldier captured in Afghanistan last month, reports the BBC. “In the video, the soldier, in grey clothes and with shaved head, says being a prisoner is ‘unnerving’ and that he misses his family.

“He says the US public has the power to bring US troops home to be ‘back where we belong and not over here, wasting our time and our lives’. The US military in Kabul said the man in the video was the missing soldier.” More here (including the video)…

The ABC story about the kidnapped US soldier here…

Here are some key facts and figures about Afghanistan and the British and other international forces fighting in Afghanistan.
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The BBC reports that “mobility is a major factor in guerrilla warfare and Taliban fighters often operate as a ‘pick-up truck cavalry’ force in adapted four-wheel drive vehicles such as the Toyota Hi-Lux. ISAF forces tend to rely on heavier armoured vehicles.”

It adds that “the true number of civilians killed in the Afghan conflict will probably never be known.” More here…

  • redbus
    Victory is attained when objectives are achieved. What are our objectives? I have never heard President Obama clearly spell these out.
  • Rambie
    Didn't hear any real clear objectives from President Bush for Afghanistan after we invaded Iraq too.
  • casualobserver
    @@Didn't hear any real clear objectives from President Bush for Afghanistan after we invaded Iraq too.@@

    So, you sat around here for years criticizing the neocons and now admit to not knowing what the foreign policy goals of neoconservatism were?

    As for Bush I hardly paid attention to his utterances the way the Olberman crowd here did, but I can readily remember at least 3:

    -"flourishing democracy to replace hateful ideology"

    -"God told me, George, make the world safe from terrorists" or something to that effect

    -eliminate a real or imaginary Al-Q/Bin Laden stronghold


    Criticize away on both the goals and the execution, but I find it patently intellectually dishonest for the Obama supporters to manage nothing more than a weak attempt to deflect the conversation back to Bush when Barry is not only carrying on the very same COIN stuff with the very same Bush guys in charge, but now actually wanting to double down on the troop commitment to it.

    COIN is a means to the same goals in 2009 as they were in 2006.......you can't keep the same means and deny you're not actually pursuing the same goals.......well-articulated or not.

    If all that it takes for you guys to be happy is that the CIC isn't pontificating platitudes any longer, you have very little room to criticize anyone any longer.
  • Hotjets
    Yes, remember the media in the months leading up to the last election? They kept demanding to know President Bush's Iraq exit strategy. It was all over the lefty internet sites and in the dead tree media, for months. But the media in general and lefty pundits in particular seem strangely unconcerned with President Obama's exit policy for Afghanistan, despite the fact that he favors a strong military involvement in that country. Did those who wanted to know Bush's exit strategy really care at all? Or were they just trying to score partisan points? If they did care, why are they so quiet now, in Obama's case?
  • D. E.Rodriguez
    Just incredible!

    If I understand correctly---and I could be very wrong---people are demanding from Obama to spell out for them what "the objectices are" in Afghansiatn, and what "the exit startegy" is for a war started by the previous administration.

    Let me ask them, what was Presdinet Bush's objective and what was president Bush's exit sytrategy in and from Afghanistan.

    Knowing that might give you an idea of what Obama's objectives and exit stragety might be.

    BTW, when you think about 9/11, who the attackers were, where their support, command and control came from,by whom and where they were trained, where their sympathizers, supporters and promoters were, you may get an idea of what President Bush's objecitves were and just perhaps, perhaps, what Obama's objectives might be,albeit modified for the changed circumstances and times
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