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New Haven Firefighters: The Divide Remains

As already noted by Joe Windish, the Supreme Court has overturned the decision of the 2nd Court of Appeals in the case where results of a promotion exam failed to produce advancement for a sufficient number of minority candidates. While the ruling itself will likely come as no surprise to many observers, the close, 5-4 margin tells me that we still have a looming divide in our legal system and no way to address it. Frankly, I would like to be more surprised that we could find four SCOTUS justices to vote against the ruling, but I’m not.

(For more commentary from both sides today, follow this link.)

This excerpt from the majority opinion really seems to say it all.

Fear of litigation alone cannot justify an employer’s reliance on race to the detriment of individuals who passed the examinations and qualified for promotions,” Justice Anthony Kennedy said in his opinion for the court.

In stark contrast, Justice Ginsburg, writing in dissent, seems to be attacking a situation which neither exists nor would have any impact on this specific case if it did.

In dissent, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said the white firefighters “understandably attract this court’s sympathy. But they had no vested right to promotion. Nor have other persons received promotions in preference to them.”

Justices Stephen Breyer, David Souter and John Paul Stevens signed onto Ginsburg’s dissent, which she read aloud in court Monday.

No person in this suit even remotely attempted to claim that the white firefighters carried some sort of “vested right to promotion.” They simply maintained that the test was evenly applied and essentially “colorblind” and delivered valid results. The fact that nobody else “received promotions in preference to them” is a bizarre conclusion, since nobody will get a promotion if the entire system for establishing eligibility is scrapped.

If the case were about a test which was inherently unfair to the economically disadvantaged or similar complaints, it would have deserved much more merit. And, of course, had any officials been found to have rigged the test to assure better grades for white candidates, I don’t think it would have come this far. But nothing close to those claims was made in court. This was an established system for determining advancement which presumably had been used in the past successfully but which is now being challenged because certain individuals didn’t care for the results from this application.

Having four Supreme Court Justices deliver what in essence seems to be a knee-jerk reaction to any case where the race cared is invoked should be troubling to anyone. Unfortunately, our system of justice still contains a number of barriers where double standards not only exist but are actively encouraged by our courts. For other examples we need look no further than family court.

Across most of the nation you will find courts where you would think that the default assumption of our judges would be that the safety and welfare of the children is paramount in any child custody case. As much as that may sound like common sense, try telling that to any father who has attempted to obtain custody of his children during a separation. Unless the mother can definitively be shown to be currently sitting in jail on heroin possession and murder convictions, the mother is going to get custody. And even if the mother is in jail, the father’s custody will generally end on the day she is released.

We’ve made tremendous progress in this country in terms of obtaining equality for traditionally opressed groups. Unfortunately, we have inherited blind spots where the pendulum of justice has swung far past equity and into the same wrongs coming from the other direction. And today’s decision demonstrates that we continue to have powerful and influential members of the judicial system who are more than happy to have these disparities remain in the name of making sure that no person can ever accuse us of bias against minority groups ever again.

UPDATE: Ed Morrissey at Hot Air concerns himself mostly with the effect this may have on the confirmation of Sonia Sotomayor. Personally, while I can see this as a valid question to bring up in her confirmation hearings, it will still wind up being mostly wishful thinking on the part of Republicans. Having a decision overruled is not an immediate disqualifying factor for a nominee, and other (primarily political) factors will likely still make for an uphill battle for Sotomayor’s opponents. Expect a confirmation this summer which still brings along seventy Senate votes or more in her favor.

  • What difference will it make? The decision 5-4 today, would be 5-4 with Sotomayor on the bench. Do the Republicans really think Obama will add to THEIR side of the Court? Ha! Only Bush would be that stupid. No. wait. ALL presidents appoint justices in accord with their philosophies.

    Here's how Washington Monthly sums up the issue with regard to Sotomayor:
    It's probably safe to assume that Sotomayor's detractors will characterize today's ruling as a rebuke of her judgment regarding race and the law. It's worth noting, then, that this is a very poor argument.

    Remember, Sotomayor joined a unanimous appeals court panel in Ricci, and she applied precedent that existed at the time. Four justices on the high court agreed with her conclusion.

    Also note, the Supreme Court's role in the process is different. As Scott Lemieux noted, "[T]he Supreme Court can create new law in way that Circuit Courts can't." Besides, if this were the right metric for evaluating an appeals court judge nominated for the high court, Alito and Roberts would have been rejected by the Senate.

  • DLS
    "ALL presidents appoint justices in accord with their philosophies."

    All "philosophies," of course, are not all equally, morally or otherwise.

    Proper restraint against overreach and respect for law and rule of law is superior as well as proper; substituting the views, desires, and whims of judges who are well to the left of the public and the will to which law is ordinarily intended and expected to satisfy is illegimate as well as morally and otherwise inferior and defective.

    At least with Sotomayor, there's less of an illegitimate-activist threat than there could have been.
  • DLS, the "morality" of a philosophy is a matter of belief and opinion. You certainly can't claim the overreach of the "conservative" justices is morally superior, especially with respect to illegal wiretapping and trashing the balance of power codified in our Constitution, but dismissed in a most cavalier fashion by Bush appointees. So, you're entitled to your delusion of moral superiority, while I'm entitled to believe it's morally bankrupt.
  • DLS
    "So, you're entitled to your delusion of moral superiority, while I'm entitled to believe it's morally bankrupt."

    You can make up whatever you want to say, Green Dreams, but the facts about judicial activism stand.
  • AustinRoth
    GD - You certainly can't claim the overreach of the "conservative" justices is morally superior, especially with respect to illegal wiretapping and trashing the balance of power codified in our Constitution

    Given that comment, it has to really get your goat that Obama is sustaining and continuing almost every single onE of the things you have railed against Bush about for the past few years here.

    I like how Glenn Reynolds puts it. Hope and Change? More like Hope and Same!

    HA HA HA HA!
  • HemmD
    DLS

    You're right about the judicial activism. Like when your guys decided that equal pay for women could only be charged when the FIRST instance occurred, not the succeeding 20 years of inequality. That's activism old white men can believe in.

    Hard to believe, but these rulings are supposed to be determined by the law, but the charge of activism is always made by the side who loses.
  • Yes, AR, I am greatly disappointed that Obama is continuing the "unitary executive" bull, the executive privilege ("private law"), defying FOIA requests and other lack of transparency issues. You know I'm a pretty solid Democrat, but I fully expect my team to walk their talk.
  • AustinRoth
    GD - and you know I LOVE poking you with a stick, but many of those things (particularly indefinite detention, with or without access to lawyers, and without charges), gall me beyond words, too. I do believe that habaes corpus is one of the keystones of any fair judiciary, and I grew up believing the failure to provide access to the court was an undeniable indicator of unjust government.
  • AustinRoth
    HemmD -

    equal pay for women could only be charged when the FIRST instance occurred, not the succeeding 20 years of inequality

    That is not what they ruled at all, and I am sure you know that, but felt that lying about or misrepresenting what they did actually rule mad it easier to make your point.

    The bottom-line point on that ruling was that it was a poorly written law, and it is not the Supreme Court's job to re-write poorly written law - it is Congress' job. And they did after that ruling. For once.

    I wish they would do that more often, rather than looking to SCOTUS to cover their asses by making new law or fixing their errors, frankly. And that criticism is definitely pointed at both Democrats and Republicans.
  • superdestroyer
    I wonder what is more ironic: That the four liberal memb ers of the Supreme Court think that it is fine when the government discriminates on the basis of race as long as whites are those are being discriminated against or that four people who went to Ivy League law schools believe that test, academic hardwork, and academic knowledge who not count as much as the ability to BS in an interview.
  • HemmD
    AR

    I beg to differ with your take. The decision hinged upon the idea that past discrimination is inadmissible if there was no "present" act within the allotted time period. In quoting a past case,

    "We agreed with Evans that the airline’s “seniority sys-tem [did] indeed have a continuing impact on her pay and fringe benefits,” id., at 558, but we noted that “the critical question [was] whether any present violation exist[ed].” Ibid. (emphasis in original). We concluded that the continuing effects of the precharging period discrimination did not make out a present violation."

    So, past discrimination, in Lilly's case unequal pay, could not be counted toward a present act of discrimination even though every paycheck underscored that unequal pay.

    So, if I sell you a fraudulent insurance policy where you make monthly payments, you can't be charged for fraud because the origination of that policy falls outside the statue of limitations? Cool, I've got some shoreline real estate I'd like to sell you.
  • AustinRoth
    HemmD -

    Ah, but you conveniently ignore the that the past act occurred prior to the enactment of the law, which had been written with no grandfather clause (the fatal flaw), and continuing results of a prior action do not count, in legal terms, as new incidents. Had they again, after the enactment of the law, performed another separate, distinct act of pay discrimination, that certainly WOULD have counted.

    So, your example of the insurance, as it always seems to be for Leftists that do not get their way in court, is simply not a relevant example. It is just another lying misstatement of the initial conditions and facts in evidence so you can feel superior in your flawed reasoning.

    Again, my position is the difference between rulings based on the law vs. the 'what makes your tummy feel yummy' theory of jurisprudence. I prefer the former. If it leads to unacceptable consequences, change the law. As was done. As I said.

    As always, with love and respect, AR

    :)
  • HemmD
    Wrong again AR, nice try though.

    Hypothetical

    I contract with you in 1960 to sell you LSD on a monthly basis. At the time of the contract's start, LSD is a legal drug. I continue to sell you the drug to feed your monthly habit until the present day. I take it by your logic that because it was a legal act at the beginning of the contracting period, no unlawful act is committed after the drug is outlawed.
  • AustinRoth
    Nope - because the laws on the distribution of controlled substances specifically invalidate any pre-existing contracts once a substance is added to the list. Again, well written law (much of which I vehemently disagree with, BTW. I just don't pretend the part that I don;t like don't exist, as you seem inclined to do o n laws you don't care for)

    SCOTUS was quite clear it was the language of the law itself that forced their hand, not some hatred of women as you seem to want to fantasize about, and given your apparent memory problems, I will again point out that Congress then indeed changed the law to correct their own poor wording.

    I am sorry you feel compelled to throw bogus strawman after bogus strawman at me, especially given i have the language of the SCOTUS ruling to back me up, but the plain fact is it was a poorly written law, SCOTUS made that abundantly clear, and then it got corrected.

    I really fail to see how that is so evil. The court did its job, Congress theirs. The only objection seems to come from those that insist SCOTUS should act as an extension of Congress.
  • HemmD
    In your spare time, let me know where in the US Code the contract dissolution passage you refer to is located. You're the expert, show me.

    And when you find it, explain to me how this affects drug contracts, but not illegal employment contracts.

    Thanks barrister
  • AustinRoth
    Certainly.

    21 USC Sec. 841, paragraph a, articles 1 and 2:

    (a) Unlawful acts
    Except as authorized by this subchapter, it shall be unlawful for any person knowingly or intentionally -

    (1) to manufacture, distribute, or dispense, or possess with intent to manufacture, distribute, or dispense, a controlled substance; or

    (2) to create, distribute, or dispense, or possess with intent to distribute or dispense, a counterfeit substance.

    The rest of the subchapter deals with the penalties and allowable exceptions, and prior contracts is not one of the allowed exceptions.

    Go do your own research now:

    http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/csa.html
  • HemmD
    AR
    Yes ace, I know the following is for minimum wage, however, as (d) below states,
    No employer having employees subject to any provisions of this section shall discriminate.....

    Pre-existing contracts are exempted where?"



    Title 29 Capt 8 § 206



    (d) Prohibition of sex discrimination
    (1) No employer having employees subject to any provisions of this section shall discriminate, within any establishment in which such employees are employed, between employees on the basis of sex by paying wages to employees in such establishment at a rate less than the rate at which he pays wages to employees of the opposite sex in such establishment for equal work on jobs the performance of which requires equal skill, effort, and responsibility, and which are performed under similar working conditions, except where such payment is made pursuant to
  • AustinRoth
    Hmmm. I guess you simply don't know they law as well as you pretend, HemmD. Again, laws cannot be made retroactive without specific call out. The drug laws do so, as I pointed out; this law did not. And it was changed to correct its deficiency.

    Again, you just seem to want to spend time whining over and over again that you didn't like the effect of the law as it was written, and bad, bad SCOTUS for not just changing the law to meet your whims.

    Obviously, you are never going to get over it (you probably still haven't gotten over Bush v. Gore, I would bet), so, no more arguing with a tree for me today. I do have more important things to do than to try and educate a rock.

    See you on another thread, I am sure.
  • HemmD
    AR

    Drop your negative baggage. And I'm real sorry you feel so sure you know what I think.

    I thought I was having a conversation, obviously, not.
  • AustinRoth
    And I thought we had degenerated back into one of our Monty Python Argument Clinic moments!

    :)
  • HemmD
    If I was looking for an argument, then I wouldn't have come to the abuse dept.

    The (d) section I last sent you makes no attempt to over write previous contracts, yet you can't pay someone less than minimum wage after its passage. No discrimination now means every subsequent paycheck.

    That's not what SCOTUS ruled.
  • AustinRoth
    Shut your festering gob, you tit! Your type really makes me puke, you vacuous, coffee-nosed, malodorous, pervert!!!

    You are mixing different wage laws, which never really works. But would you at least care to share a link, as I did?
  • HemmD
    AR

    http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode2...

    please show me how " Every employer shall pay to each of his employees" does not constitute citable evidence that (d) discrimination based on sex, does not apply to lilly. Just sayin' that sexual bias does not only refer to minimum wage workers here as how could you pay a female worker less if your men get paid the minimum; thus, it fits every worker.

    May not be good lawyering, but its logically consistant.

    twit
  • AustinRoth
    That is 'Upper Class Twit of the Year', to you!
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