Exceptional Circumstances: A Canadian Couple and Their Premature Baby, Currently Receiving Care in the U.S., Must Be Reunited ASAP

A sad, troubling, rage-inducing story from The Canadian Press:

A critically-ill premature-born baby from Hamilton is all alone in a Buffalo, N.Y., hospital after she was turned away for treatment at local facility and transferred across the border without her parents, who don’t have passports.

Ava Stinson was born Thursday at St. Joseph’s Hospital, 14 weeks premature.

A provincewide search for an open neonatal intensive care unit bed came up empty, leaving no choice but to send the two pound, four ounce baby to Buffalo.

Her parents Natalie Paquette and Richard Stinson couldn’t follow their child because as of June 1, a passport is required to cross the border into the United States.

They’re having to approve medical procedures over the phone and are terrified something will happen to their baby before they get there.

The Canadian Consulate in Buffalo is providing advice and guidance to the first-time parents, and their local MP, New Democrat David Christopherson, is working to arrange emergency passports.

But that will take until at least Monday afternoon and the situation is complicated by the fact the baby’s dad has a criminal record.

“I just want to be with her,” said Paquette.

“She only knows my heartbeat, my voice and her daddy’s voice. It’s all I can think about. I feel so helpless.”

I won’t get into the relative merits of the American and Canadian health-care systems here. Suffice it to say that there obviously need to be more neo-natal intensive care unit beds up here. Thankfully — and this doesn’t mean that the American system is better (after all, at least the couple and their baby are guaranteed care up here, thanks to our public system, even if it’s not perfect) — there was an opening south of the border.

That aside — now that the baby is in Buffalo — isn’t this a clear case where the law must allow for an exception? No, the parents don’t have passports, which are now needed (a rule that recently came into effect), and, yes, the father has a criminal record (I don’t know for what, but I doubt he’s a threat to American society), but surely the demands of the moment, the exceptional circumstances of this individual case (and the need for the parents to be with their baby at this difficult time, with so much uncertain) trump all other considerations, including the unfeeling application of the law.

It is likely, I suppose, that the couple will get their emergency passports. But will the U.S. then let them in? And will they get there in time, should the baby take a turn for the worse?

This story is simply heartbreaking. The powers-that-be on both sides of the border ought to work something out, quickly, that makes this happen, passports or no passports, criminal record or no criminal record.

This family must be reunited. Now.

(Cross-posted from The Reaction.)

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  • EEllis

    MS said “I won’t get into the relative merits of the American and Canadian health-care systems here.” then “after all, at least the couple and their baby are guaranteed care up here”

    Guaranteed to get their baby shipped to another country? Here's an idea if you don't want to get into something then don't say anything about it, especially when it's BS. Hospitals “down here” are prohibited from turning away patients who need urgent care and every county has a hospital (at least one if not several) that provides health care to those that could not otherwise afford it. The cost of such use (ER instead of a doctor) may increase the overall cost but no one is denied vital or emergency health care.

    Second, and back to the main point, what was the father convicted of? Canada issues it's own passports so who are you critical of? Canada issues an emergency passport and they are on their way. I got mine from the US in 3 hours once because of an urgent work issue, can't Canada move thing along? If the US stops daddy at the border that's another issue, but the parents not being able to get passports is Canada's.

  • Dr_J

    I guess I'm missing what's exceptional. Premature babies, shortages in state-run industries, immigration red tape, and anxious parents are all routine. As historic injustices go, fast-tracking patients across borders more swiftly than their families seems like small potatoes.

  • JCJim

    Seems the problem is all Canada's. Left to Canada and the democrat's heathcare systems the child would be dead today. Once the dem's take over here, with their governement care, where will Canada send those they cannot treat?

  • http://www.thepiratescove.us/ William_Teach

    Interesting. Someone who is an advocate for government run health care in the USA excuses that Canada's government run system didn't have room to take care of the baby, so had to send it to the USA's non-government run system for care, but, as typical, slurs the US for the passport fiasco.

  • UsaqMadik

    Why is this a clear case where the US must make an exception? Can't the govt in Canada generate emergency passports in less than 24 hours? What's the hold-up? If this couple is as harmless as is claimed, of course the US will allow them entry. Its tragic yes, but isn't the real tragedy Canada's inadequate medical facilities?

    Suffice it to say, Canada's system is wonderful until you need to use it for something more than a basic medical procedure. This baby sure is lucky to have such gracious neighbors to her South, eh?

    I do agree this story is heartbreaking, but I hope it forces you folks up in Canada to take a serious look at your unsustainable health coverage system. Our system is stressed enough by illegal immigrants from our South without having to deal with your spill-over.

  • ryukyu

    “and this doesn’t mean that the American system is better”…and how many people are crossing the border to get Canadian healthcare?

  • JimTreacher

    Thank you for coining a new oxymoron: “Canadian guarantee.”

  • stoo11

    The family must be reunited? Fine. Send the baby home.

  • robertcollins68

    As the old Chinese proverb goes, “There is nothing is more expensive than something that is *free*” – it seems this goes for the Canadian healthcare system and its 32-84 day wait for an MRI. Best of luck to the baby, get the Canadian passport office off of its rear and issue the passports for the parents. Mr. Stickings is an idiot to attempt to put this problem on the States.

  • MQ73

    Unfortunately, bureaucratic systems are not set up for quick creative thinking. A system should be put into place to take care of such exceptional circumstances. Perhaps appointing a 24 hour/day escort (US immigration, local law enforcement or even RCMP) until emergency passports can be arranged.

    The other point is Health insurance is NOT the same as access to health care. Even if uninsured, the baby would have been immediately transferred to the nearest NICU. Afterwords, the hospital would present the bill, the parents then turn out there pockets “try to squeeze blood from a stone”. Eventually, the cost would be reduced to some very modest amount ( or nothing) and the balance recovered by higher prices to other patients.

  • elladeon

    Glad you have guaranteed Canadian health care available in Buffalo. Who is paying for this again?

    Oh, and Canada? You're welcome.

  • orthodoc

    The requirement for a passport to enter the US has been common knowledge for two years. Why is it the fault of the Americans that this couple couldn't be bothered to turn off the TV long enough to go online and get their damn passports?

    Oh, and how can you possibly justify the fact that out of the 300 hospitals in southern Ontario, not one had a NICU bed? And that you have to depend on Buffalo for one? Hamilton is home to 500,000 people as well as McMaster; Toronto is less than an hour via the QEW. It has the flagship hospitals for Canadian health care.

    You're welcome, you ungrateful jackass.

  • caveman82952

    My wife had leukemia, I have here a copy of my first bill from Stanford Medical. My responsibility is zero, as in NADA. We long ago met our limits at the two previous hospitals Mary was in, and a very expensive six thousand dollar ambulance ride. We haven’t even paid those yet. But Stanford? For our insurance is paying for it, Blue Shield, all three hundred and thirty thousand dollars worth..now adjusted down, ..and climbing, for she is still there. We will be stuck with a sum ourselves, but I won’t lose my house over it. Our problems will come later. Is there ONE hospital in Canada that can claim the expertise and equipment of Stanford? ONE? I know they have the technology, fine doctors and staffs. But not an incubator? If America wasn’t here, what then? I want to hear one of these dirtbags justify the death of a child. I would suspect the average Canadian would want to shoot him, if he owned a gun. My wife has been CAT scanned, PET scanned, chemoed, jabbed, drilled and has four attending doctors. I fear she would have been told to put her affairs in order in a socialist system, for a socialist economy would never have developed the medicines we have now, or those scanners, marvels of technology. Or for that matter, pallative care, unless of course you opt for suicide, then they will help you. Otherwise die in fear and agony or go black market. But you can bet the leaders get care, just don’t bet your life on it. Makes me damn glad I own the guns I do, for I would intend to create a few medical problems of my own if the attempt it made to force me into such a system. Ands by the way, you socialists, I walk by one of the finest childrens hospitals in the country going to see my wife, Lucille Packard at Stanford. In the next wing over. They had a incubator, several actually, they perform surgery on babies that size. So lets compare the relative available care, shall we? ………..I take this very personally now. Very personally indeed. My wife will get biopsy results tomorrow after two week long chemo sessions. The signs are positive. Her care first rate. One nurse put her in a wheel chair, put a respirator on her and took her for a stroll through those beautiful gardens, he having known Mary had gone in the bathroom and cried her heart out, homesick and feeling like hell. Bottom line, you WILL get care here, you cannot be turned away, you may not own a house but you will probably be alive.

  • caveman82952

    My wife has leukemia, presently in the hospital receiving chemo. a copy of my first bill from Stanford Medical. My responsibility is zero, as in NADA. We long ago met our limits at the two previous hospitals Mary was in, and a very expensive six thousand dollar ambulance ride. We haven’t even paid those yet. But Stanford? For our insurance is paying for it, Blue Shield, all three hundred and thirty thousand dollars worth..now adjusted down, ..and climbing, for she is still there. We will be stuck with a sum ourselves, but I won’t lose my house over it. Our problems will come later. Is there ONE hospital in Canada that can claim the expertise and equipment of Stanford? ONE? I know they have the technology, fine doctors and staffs. But not a incubator? If America wasn’t here, what then? I want to hear one of these sleazy dirtbags bags justify the death of a child. I would suspect the average Canadian would want to shoot him, if he owned a gun. My wife has been CAT scanned, PET scanned, chemoed, jabbed, drilled and has four attending doctors. I fear she would have been told to put her affairs in order in a socialist system, for a socialist economy would never have developed the medicines we have now, or those scanners, marvels of technology. Or for that matter, pallative care, unless of course you opt for suicide, then they will help you. Otherwise die in fear and agony or go black market. But you can bet the leaders get care, just don’t bet your life on it. Makes me damn glad I own the guns I do, for I would intend to create a few medical problems of my own if the attempt it made to force me into such a system. And by the way, you socialists, I walk by one of the finest childrens hospitals in the country going to see my wife, Lucille Packard at Stanford. In the next wing over. They had a incubator, several actually, they perform surgery on babies that size. So lets compare the relative available care, shall we? ………..I take this very personally now. Very personally indeed. My wife will get biopsy results tomorrow after two week long chemo sessions. The signs are positive. Her care first rate. One nurse put her in a wheel chair, put a respirator on her and took her for a stroll through those beautiful gardens, he having known Mary had gone in the bathroom and cried her heart out, homesick and feeling like hell. Bottom line, you WILL get care here, you cannot be turned away from emergency, you may not own a house but you will probably be alive.

  • hester1

    Heartbreaking? Yes, but instead of getting in your little dig at American heath care, you would have better served the baby and all future cases like this in calling on the powers that be in Canada to make sure its hospitals have what is needed. Perhaps in the future then, little babies will not need to be airlifted to the U.S.

  • Jim_F

    If Canadian health care is so wonderful they why are you Canadians ROUTINELY sending your sickest of the sick down to us heartless incompetents the U.S.?

    If Canadian-style health care becomes a reality for us down here, how many sick Canadian babies will we be able to take care of after the Canadian-style health care rationing begins?
    That would probably be about the same number of critically ill Americans that show up on your doorstep, which according to the U.S. State Department is approximately ZERO.

    Can you do the math now Michael?

  • sybilll

    caveman82952
    I am daring to use the words, I will PRAY for your wife's complete recovery. Recovery rates for Leukemia are impressive.
    As respects the preemie, that is confounding. NO neo-natal in all of Canada? My great niece was in NICU. They could accomodate 8 babies, and this is just ONE hospital, in a town with SIX NICU facilities, in a town of 1,000,000. Not an entire country.

  • Stormrayne

    I don't know who you ARE….But who are you to say that this story is BS i was there personally when they told the parents that there is no beds what so ever in Canada, therefore they turned the baby away, so you and you little comment can shove it where the sun don't shine….How Rude can you be honestly…..

  • Stormrayne

    What is wrong with you Americans??? Honestly why are you all upset about this…no one on this article has said anything Rude about the states, and then you guys are all Dissing Canada WTF is your problem….this is my niece were talking about a 14 week old premature baby and all you guys can think of is Canada this Canada that….i couldn't believe my eyes what i was reading how can ppl be so heartless about this…if anything we are thankful and grateful for Buffalo children hospital to take this ill baby and give her intensive care and keep her stable….

    Oh and as for the passports it wasn't a requirement for the past two yrs….yes it was better to have but it's been required as of June 1st 2009….

  • WilG

    Lemme see.

    Canaduh allows the muslin terrorists who attacked and kiled 3000 Americans to come and go freely, indeed welcoming them with open arms.

    Canaduh makes no effort to police the border and keep the muslim terrorists that canaduh allows free reign on their side of the border, forcing the U.S. to police the border ourselves.

    Canaduh has a crappy medical system, caused by “one payer public financing”, which is incapable of aborbing one more critically ill baby, and the child is turned away.

    Yet somehow, this is the fault of the United States, which has a medical system that DOES absorb and care for the critically ill patient that Canaduh is too far gone to save.

    I have an idea. How about you fix your own health care system, and stay the hell on your side of the border. After all, it's not like WE need YOU.

  • Stormrayne

    This infact is paid for by the Canadian government you arrogant bastards

  • WilG

    We are arrogant with good reason.

    My parents knew each other.

    And who cares who pays the bill for the care? The reality is that your crap medical system can't find room for a critically ill baby. Why? Cause your medical system sux. I didn't make it so, you did.

  • elladeon

    Dude, let's be fair. The Canadians did not — DID NOT — let any of the 9/11 hijackers into the US illegally. They all entered the US legally, and then stayed on expired visas. It was our immigration services that dropped the ball, *not* the Canadians.

    I'll blame them for making socialized medicine seem cool and trendy, but they are innocent of anything in 9/11.

  • Lynx

    For the love of all that is good, do you people really have no heart at all? This is really just an opportunity to rage on about how awful allowing a public option would be? Send the baby BACK?!! Seriously, did you folks just leave your souls offline?!

    For any Canadian that might be reading please know that we are not all like this. I consider my position on immigration to be very conservative (more than Bush Jr.) but this is not a place or a situation for that. We're talking about the case of a very sick baby who (I suspect because of some screw up) had to cross the border to get help in an allied country. I am 99% certain that the Canadian government will be paying for this, since it's system guarantees treatment and if it's anything like European systems that includes paying for private care if the public is insufficient/unavailable.

    I am amused by how a public option (note that this does not abolish private care, alive and well in all countries with public healthcare) is considered too shoddy by so many and AT THE SAME TIME too much of a threat to allow it to compete with private care. As a resident of a country with true socialized medicine (Universal care for all in government run facilities) I fully recognize that the system has it's shortcomings, some of them quite serious. I also know that people would take to the streets if the possibility of American-style privatization was suggested, and that I'd be on those streets with them.

    The passport issue is trickier and has more to do with security. Couldn't North America create a small Schengen Space to itself? A large number of EU nations allow free circulation of its citizens with their national ID, as well as other advantages in residence and the like. Of course that may involve the whole issue of the anti-ID paranoia that exists in the US (and maybe in Canada, who knows). I'm afraid that that truly is the decision of each country and I can understand the need for greater control, even if it is causing a huge problem in this particular situation.

    I wish the baby and her family well.

  • broken_quanta

    Stormrayne,

    I'm an American and I'm going to half-apologize for the slight. My daughter spent a month in two NICUs (one of the things the story might be missing is that there all NICUs are not created equal, and so the “number of NICU beds available” depends on the seriousness of a baby's condition; the second NICU we visited was drawing patients from hundreds of miles away b/c it was the regional center for the most serious cases). My heart breaks for your family, it really does. And I too am angry at the (few) commenters griping about “who pays” or snidely suggesting that we “send the baby home” to die.

    All that said, most of the Americans upthread are responding to an inane comment made by the host of this blog. Despite claiming that he didn't want to “get into the relative merits of the American and Canadian health-care systems here”, he apparently couldn't resist taking a shot at us — even while *our system* is trying to save your niece's life! That's in very poor taste, I think, and it's not so surprising that Americans on the board reacted the way they have.

    As for the passport issue, it's obviously a cluterf**k all around. Surely there's a way for the Canadian G to get these people passports pronto. In the meantime, surely there's a Border Patrol or Buffalo PD officer willing to hang around with them (and on his own time, I'd wager) at the hospital. In my experience, *everyone* — friends, employers, hospital officials, even the docs and nurses in the NICU, to say nothing of bureaucrats and internet wags — underestimates the parents' need to be with a child in NICU. I hope they get reunited soon. If the wide publicity this story is garnering helps expedite the process, then I think it will be worth the cost in jerky comments.

    Best of luck to you and yours.

  • didietjoel

    I can tell you all one thing. At least here in canada, we dont throw people out of the hospitals because they cant pay….

  • broken_quanta

    didietjoel,

    There is absolutely no chance that anyone in the US is going to throw a baby out of a NICU because the parents can't pay. If you believe otherwise, you know nothing of us.

  • hayekian

    First of all, all Canadians near the border have heard about the passport regulations for at least 18 months.
    Second, you can get an emergency passport within 48-72 hours in Canada. It costs like $75.
    Broken quanta is right. Canadians hear a gross mis-representation of what care is provided on an urgent & emergent basis here in the states (I've worked in both systems). I've provided many hundreds of thousands of dollars in free care to people who have had no means to pay. I consider the massive discounting of my work in Canada, along with the lack of access to tests and procedures we know patients need, as far more de-humanizing and de-moralizing. I love Canada, but the only people who love the system are those that don't have chronic or major illnesses. The 80% that are perfectly healthy rave about it.

  • DLS

    “I am amused by how a public option (note that this does not abolish private care, alive and well in all countries with public healthcare) is considered too shoddy by so many and AT THE SAME TIME too much of a threat to allow it to compete with private care.”

    You miss the numerous real points here. To name one of them, if we went to all-public and then experienced the set of problems we (some of us, at least, already) know we'd experience in exchange for ending the private system, then if in the future we suggested a “private option” alternative, that would be when we'd see a few of the more foamy-mouthed leftists exhibit the Rage! [tm] and other loss of control for which Mikey is notorious on this Web site.

  • EEllis

    MQ Said-”A system should be put into place to take care of such exceptional circumstances. Perhaps appointing a 24 hour/day escort (US immigration, local law enforcement or even RCMP) until emergency passports can be arranged.”

    The US does have such a system for foreign nationals who have medical emergencies and or other circumstances. The requirement for escort must be done privately and ICE will want someone to stand responsible for them. Obviously US taxpayers cain't be financially responsible for the cost. Really the simple deal would be Canada issuing a passport.

  • EEllis

    Stormrayne said “I don't know who you ARE….But who are you to say that this story is BS i was there personally when they told the parents that there is no beds what so ever in Canada, therefore they turned the baby away, so you and you little comment can shove it where the sun don't shine….How Rude can you be honestly…..”

    Are you on crack? As any normal person can see I was responding to this quoted part of the original post.

    “MS said “I won’t get into the relative merits of the American and Canadian health-care systems here.” then “after all, at least the couple and their baby are guaranteed care up here”

    And it is BS for two reasons, one the baby didn't get care in Canada, two no hospital in the US that had the facilities would of turned away that child. So what's your issue?

  • Icejackal

    Lets not blow this up more than it's needed, the fact of the matter is my sister and her husband needed to be by my nieces side.

    we can argue all day about eachothers healthcare system even though imo neither side should complain..the states have the right amount of equiptment and staff because they pay for it, sometimes steeply…canada doesn't at the cost of free healthcare…

    now i hope every1 can agree that we all want the best for lil Ava.

  • sarahmitchell1981

    This is proposturous, why in God's name would American's sit there and comment such negative things when a child is still at risk? We can sit here and trash talk all day, but in the meantime, let's remember that when the chips went down on 9/11, EVERY Canadian- ALL across Canada, begged God to show mercy to those America lost…We silenced ourselves for those that died, without political, social or ethnicity racism. We didnt trash your country…we stood by your side. I would like to think that Americans and Canadians may have differences, but when the chips go down, we are ALL united.

    To those who posted a positive note, thank you and may God Bless You

  • EEllis

    “why in God's name would American's sit there and comment such negative things when a child is still at risk?”

    Why in gods name would people use this crisis to push a political agenda? And lets face it some were coming down on the US for not allowing access when Canada hadn't given these poor people emergency passports. I have all the sympathy in the world for the family but most of the remarks that caused the reactions were not from family and when you take a swing at someone you got to expect they'll swing back.

  • Mstewart

    Wow…. This has really become a loaded issue.

    After reading all of the above I have to say that the majority of every American response on here leads me to believe that you guys just cant stand to pass up an opportunity to make things all about you, and a fight at that. I'm sorry but the majority of you are rediculous and should be ashamed of the people you are. You make yourselves sound like terrible individuals who are nothing more than unevolved heartless beings with a taste for blood. None of the negative Americans on here seemed to give a shit about the poor baby thats sick and all alone in this world, who cares in whos boarder that is. I dont.

    I dont believe that the person who originally wrote this ment to bash you and your system. Just merely to say that there are clearly issues with both systems. Why cant we speak up and say when there are problems, should we ignore the issues that are obvious and not speak of them when we are on certain land? Im sure you speak about your issues over there all the time and you sure feel the right to speak about ours, but we cant talk about yours? How does that work? And please, god, dont take that as a sucker punch any of you. You have to admit you have done your fair share of complaining about your own system in the past on your own soil. As are we about ours. Thats all it is. In a perfect world maybe all our healthcare would look a little more like our European friends. Who knows. I just know we wouldnt feel ours needs improvement.

    I've been to that hospital (St.Joesphs) very recentely as my daughter was born there only a month ago. It plain out SUCKS!!! They are terribly disorginized, contracting out any one they can and loosing what once was decent healthcare. My baby was born 6″11 premature and we were wrongly imprisoned for almost a week. But thats another issue entirely.

    Point being the left hand doesnt know what the right hand is doing anymore. Too much healthcare for those who dont need it and none to not enough for those desperate. Shouldn't some of our high ass taxes cover this? They certainly dont cover garbage in this city with a one bag limit, and our roads are brutal as well. Must be going to the revamp of the malls. Priorities! Who is driving this boat anyway?

    However, I'm sure there would have been a bed available if the parents were wealthy, right? If all they were missing was an available bed why didnt they just purchase one from the states so that the parents could stay together with the child here in Canada. Wouldn't it have been cheaper in the long run anyway? And if not that, why is the mother not considered a package deal with the child especially in a situation like this one, and as suggested why couldnt she be escourted by someone once there, 24 hours a day. If not both parents, why not just the mother? She doesnt have a record. Honestly what is she going to do? Visit her sick baby and at the same time plot and plant a bomb to blow up Major City Buffalo on her way out? Come on, thats rediculous, what harm is she really?

    Our healthcare is taking a dive especially in that last decade or so. It used to be cleaner, there used to be more staff and there used to be faster service for more people. We should complain about it, and hell, if the American's want to complain about it too, I welcome it. Maybe with more upset about it we will be heard because situations like this one should NEVER EVER HAPPEN ANYWHERE!

    If I was religious I would pray for this baby. I will definatley be sure to keep her strong in my mind as a happy healthy baby reunited with her parents soon. Just the thought of a scared sick lonely baby without its mother sickens me. As I know being a new mother how I would feel if it has of been mine. I am terribly sorry that this has happened and only wish that the best should come about really soon for all of them. I will be sure to keep myself posted.

    Good Luck to you All!!

  • Peter_D

    Q: What do they call the emergency room in Canada?

    A: The United States!

  • http://twitter.com/sfcmac57 sfcmac

    Yeah, you dumb hoser. It “doesn't mean our American system is better”, even if the baby had to get room at a hospital in Buffalo. Canada sucks and you know it sucks. Your “health care system” is an epic fail. The scary thing is THE ONE is trying to make our American health care system into a Canadian clone. For anyone stupid enough to think 'ObamaCare' is a good idea, try getting even the most basic treatment in Canada. (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124451570546396…) People in Canada often resort to a lottery to see a physician. Pay attention all of you leftwingnuts who want a cradle-to-grave Nanny State. The kind of designs Obama has for the health care system in America, should scare the shit out of you. Heed what the good Canadian doctor says. Do you really want the government making a determination as to how sick you are, or if it’s important to them that you receive care in a timely manner? If you do, get used to these words: “Take a number”.

  • http://twitter.com/sfcmac57 sfcmac

    Yeah, you dumb hoser. It “doesn't mean our American system is better”, even if the baby had to get room at a hospital in Buffalo. Canada sucks and you know it sucks. Your “health care system” is an epic fail. The scary thing is THE ONE is trying to make our American health care system into a Canadian clone. For anyone stupid enough to think 'ObamaCare' is a good idea, try getting even the most basic treatment in Canada. (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124451570546396…) People in Canada often resort to a lottery to see a physician. Pay attention all of you leftwingnuts who want a cradle-to-grave Nanny State. The kind of designs Obama has for the health care system in America, should scare the shit out of you. Heed what the good Canadian doctor says. Do you really want the government making a determination as to how sick you are, or if it’s important to them that you receive care in a timely manner? If you do, get used to these words: “Take a number”.

  • HealthyAmerican

    Judging from the mentality of the post, as well as that of the pro-Canadian comments, it's fairly easy to see why Canada isn't even the second most influential or dominant country on the North American continent.

    “We” took the baby and it is being cared for. The responsibility of getting/issuing passports rests squarely on the Canadian government. Blogger is clearly so buried in his hatred of the greatest country on earth, and unable to hide his massive inferiority complex, he leaps over the logical conclusion (Canada should have issued emergency passports) and goes right to the States Bashing.

    You guys are fortunate enough that we're willing to care for your children who suffer at the hands of a woefully inadequate medical system (SERIUOSLY?!?! NO NICU BEDS IN ALL OF ONTARIO?), dumbass canucks.

    Hell, you guys can't even brew a beer that doesn't taste like European Goat Piss.

    Shut up and show the proper gratitude, Moosewankers.

  • Mstewart

    And it continues still. Unbelievable that every positive thought or attempt at common ground flew over your heads without notice. I guess you cant expect words to fall with success on deaf ears. God those American's, so angry! lol.
    To those American's so negative and self absorbed they cant see past their own ass' to see that their shit stinks too like everyone elses; Was your childhood so troubled that you feel as though the world is always against you?
    This is about a child, NOT YOU!!!!!
    You guys remind me of the bully in the class that no one wants to work with cause of poor attitude.

  • Snake_Oil_Baron

    As a Canadian I find this post disgraceful. “after all, at least the couple and their baby are guaranteed care up here” NO THEY ARE NOT. Why is their baby in the states? Why do Canadians go south (or even to India) for healthcare? We are guaranteed “equality”, not health care. If you would rather have health care than equality you have to leave. If an American with a criminal record was in the news for wanting to be fast tracked into Canada for compassionate reasons and Americans were up in arms about the Canadian delays your tune would be about how arogant Americans think they are privilaged and demand special rights.

    Shamefully, “The Moderate Voice” is what passes for moderate in this country.

  • Walsingham

    Re: “This is about a child, NOT YOU!!!!!”

    Indeed, and that child is being taken care of by Americans. NOT YOU!!!!

    It is the American health care system that had the resources. Not the Canadian one.

    It is the American health care system that gears supply to demand. Not the Canadian one.

    It is the American health care system that provides the vast majority of innovation in medicine for the whole damned world, not the Canadian one.

    I am glad the child is here. The fact that he is here saved his life.

    And I have no doubt that the very second the vaunted Canadian Health Care Waiting List System cannot care for a loved one Michael Stickings, too, will come to the states so that he may snatch some adequate (and modern) health care directly from the gift-horse's mouth.

  • EEllis

    Mste said “I dont believe that the person who originally wrote this ment to bash you and your system.”

    Then you haven't read much of his writings obviously.

    As far as the rest of your post I really don't know where to start.

    1. the 24 hour escort- How about instead Canada just issues a passport? It has to be cheaper and less effort than the numerous other options people have mentioned. They blame the US like it is unreasonable “Honestly what is she going to do? Visit her sick baby and at the same time plot and plant a bomb to blow up Major City Buffalo on her way out?” Instead of saying why can't Canada just get her a damn passport!

  • fishaddict

    I do believe that what you are seeing here is the hyper sensitivity that many Americans including myself feel on a daily basis. If you read on the net, you will see that no matter what we do it is not enough. When we give billions of dollars(more than most of the civilized world combined) for aids research we are told it is not enough. We clean up the environment, rescue whole civilizations from natural disasters, save other civilizations from being swallowed in war, spend our hard earned money so that Canada and the rest of the world can have subsidized drugs and socialized medicine, and we get nothing but contempt. Sure the world was with us after 911 but that was short lived. Our military, of which I am a member, is the largest, most skilled, and most responsive in the world and simply put, puts up with more crap from the rest of the world as well as our own citizens than we need to. You spend little on your military because America doesn't, you spend little on your health care because America doesn't, you spend little on R+D, Engineering, IT, and many other fields because America doesn't.

    Our entire reason for being is to be generous, helpful, and hopeful. We are a free people that comes to the aid of those in need. The problem is that we are seeing more and more that our help is taken and then it is thrown back in our faces. Mexico's drug killings are not because Mexico has a problem with corruption, but rather because America has the freedom to bear arms. This child is in the position it is in not because Canada's medical and insurance and state systems are incapable of providing the needed care and attention but rather America is irrational and cruel for not allowing non citizens to waltz across the borders at will. I ask you what countries military was the first to respond to the recent plane crash in South America? Who responded first and bent over backward after the tsunami 2 years ago? Where is the UN hosted? How many AIDS therapies came out of Russia recently?

    I supposed to sum it up while we may come off as cruel and heartless, you will not find another people in this entire world who, as a group, are more caring, selfless, and giving of themselves up to and including their very lives, than the American people. Understand though that you may have the sweetest, most loyal, and caring dog in the world but if you keep kicking it eventually it will bite you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=575145706 facebook-575145706

    well as a family member of the family guess what the U.S. border patrol called the parents and told them to come down to the border and let them through with 1 week temp passport on the weekend , the father will be coming back this week to finish securing the passports and it he a threat no he not the record is in the past as in over 10 years ago, please show these two loving and caring people some support, for the last 6 years or more they have been trying to have a child together.

  • EEllis

    Somehow I doubt the border patrol issued passports to Canadian citizens but I'm glad the family are now able to be with their child.

  • WilG

    No, it's NOT about America.

    It's about a crap “medical” system that can't absorb one critically ill baby.

    Little Ava was born 14 weeks premature. Were the Parents ever notified that this may have been a possibilitiy? High risk pregancy? Family history?

    Did the parents make any effort to make arrangements prior to Ava's birth? Did her Doctors?

    I mean, it wasn't any secret that a passport would be required. What, two years notice isn't enough?

    My oldest had to spend two weeks in a NICU. We had to GO ACROSS THE HALL. Why can't Canaduh afford to do the same? I mean, with that wonderful govenment run health care, and all the resorces of the country, y'all can't afford one little bitty bed?

    No. The problem was that your government run health care system, that benefits from U.S. Research, cheap drugs that we pay for the development of, and has “free” health care for all, SUCKS!

    I hope that Ava is healthy, and I have already prayed for her. And her parents.

    I also pray that you all finally realize that you have a crap medical system, and make some attempt to fix that little problem. If Odumbo finally succeeds in implementing Canadian health care system here (or Brit, or Dutch, etc.), there won't BE any more research, or any more cheap drugs.

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    This post started off with an insult to the United States. You expect us NOT to respond. How about deal with your own problems before you try to dictate what we do? That, or damned well do it yourselves, and stop whining about how unfair life is.

    Moderate voice, my ass

  • http://twitter.com/timelady8 Margaret Price

    How lucky for this infant that Women & Children's Hospital here in Buffalo, one of the best for preemies, was just across the boarder. How unlucky that she was born into Canada's inadequate health care system. There is a great deal more in this story than “Oh how awful! The big bad bureaucrats in the US are enforcing the new border restrictions.” If that were really the case, that the baby wouldn't have been able to enter, either! Canada needs to get its shit together and fast track the parents' passports. If the fast tracking is anything like their health care system, the passports will be ready by this kid's first birthday.

  • ohcanahuh

    i'd like to tank Canaduh for the following… Hockey, Shania Twain, and that blond wreslting chick, Maryese? Oh yea, Miriam Mcdonald from degrassi TNG. Yep… I think I thanked them for their finest products… I'll take a 5 hr wait over a 3 month wait anyday… God bless the biggest charity in the world, my USA. Canada.. if you keep kicking, we'll eventually send the finest men and women in the world up there to kick your butts and sue you for our medicine, our weaponry, our computers, everything you have because of us… eh?