An Internet hub for moderates, centrists, and independents, with domestic and international news, analysis, original reporting, and popular features from the left, center, and right

The Right’s “Bull in the China Shop” Approach to Iran

One would think that one of the leading architects of the biggest policy failure for decades if not more would be reluctant to give Pres. Obama advice about how to handle the momentous events in Iran. But there Paul Wolfowitz is, mangling history and giving condescending suggestions to Obama on his options with regard to Iran — and on the op-ed page of the same paper that yesterday announced the firing of Dan Froomkin for being too “opinionated and liberal”:

President Obama’s first response to the protests in Iran was silence, followed by a cautious, almost neutral stance designed to avoid “meddling” in Iranian affairs. I am reminded of Ronald Reagan’s initially neutral response to the crisis following the Philippine election of 1986, and of George H.W. Bush’s initially neutral response to the attempted coup against Mikhail Gorbachev in 1991. Both Reagan and Bush were able to abandon their mistaken neutrality in time to make a difference. It’s not too late for Obama to do the same.

In 1986, Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos had called a snap election, calculating that a divided opposition would hand him a clear victory that would undercut pressure from the Reagan administration for broad-based reform. Instead, the opposition parties united behind Corazon Aquino, and only massive fraud could produce a “victory” for Marcos.

On Feb. 11, as the votes were still being counted, Reagan announced a neutral position, reminding Americans that it was a “Philippine election” and praising “the extraordinary enthusiasm of Filipinos for the democratic process.” Rather than blame Marcos for the fraud, which he called “disturbing,” Reagan said that there may have been fraud “on both sides.”

At the time, I was working for Secretary of State George Shultz as assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific affairs, and I shared Shultz’s dismay at the president’s comments. For more than two years, with the president’s support, we had carefully pressed Marcos for reform. Reagan himself once cited Lord Acton’s famous dictum, that “power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely,” while speaking of Marcos. Nevertheless Reagan’s unfortunate comment about fraud on “both sides” threatened to put the United States on the wrong side at a critical moment.

As an undersecretary of defense in George H.W. Bush’s administration, I witnessed a replay of the Philippine scenario on Aug. 19, 1991, when reactionary forces in the Soviet Union attempted a coup against Soviet President Gorbachev and Russian President Boris Yeltsin. Bush was initially very cautious: uncertain about the facts and reluctant to interfere or to alienate a possible successor to Gorbachev.

Responding early that morning, the president refused to condemn the coup, calling it merely “a disturbing development.” He expressed only lukewarm support for Gorbachev and even less for Yeltsin, and neither was among the world leaders that he tried to contact about the crisis. He seemed focused on working with the new Soviet team, hoping that their leader, Gennady Yanayev, was committed to “reform.”

Although Defense Secretary Dick Cheney had argued consistently for the United States to support the peaceful aspirations of the Russians, Ukrainians and other Soviet peoples, it was Yeltsin — with a powerful personal letter — who persuaded Bush to abandon equivocation and oppose the coup. By late afternoon, the White House had reversed course, condemning the coup attempt as “misguided and illegitimate.” Bush then called Yeltsin to assure him of his support.

No two situations are identical.  …

Indeed. We can just stop the “stream of effluent,” as Dave Noon so aptly characterizes it, right there.

Mustang Bobby, cross-posting at The Reaction and on his own blog, Bark Bark Woof Woof, points out the differences between there and here, then and now:

The difference, of course, between those situations and this one is that the United States had substantial relationships with both the Philippines and the Soviet Union. We don’t even have diplomatic relations with Iran, and that country has used the United States as a scapegoat for all of their problems; I wouldn’t put it past them to blame earthquakes on The Great Satan.

The other obvious point is that in both 1986 and 1991, the United States’ reputation abroad was considerably more well-respected than it is now. After eight years of faux-butch “bring ‘em on” behavior on the part of the Bush administration — and executed by Mr. Wolfowitz — the credibility of our good and democratic intentions for other countries is rightly suspect by the rest of the world. And after being labeled as part of the “Axis of Evil,” does Mr. Wolfowitz seriously think that the rulers in Iran, whoever they are, are going to either give a rat’s ass what we say or not try to turn it to their advantage in their campaign of oppression?

Dan Nexon at The Duck of Minerva concedes that Wolfowitz’s analogy between Iran and the Phillippines would be an apt one, “if Iran was a U.S. client state.”

… I don’t think the absurdity of the comparison should be particularly difficult to grasp: the major difference between the Philippines in 1986 and Iran in 2009 is that United States enjoyed tremendous leverage over the former, but lacks much of any in the latter. Marcos left because he knew the jig was up; the US even helped arrange for him to safely make his way into exile. He died of natural causes in Hawaii.

Wolfowitz, on the other hand, spins a little fairy tale in which the magical power of Reagan’s words (alone) worked an enchantment upon the Philippines, reaching deep into Marcos’ black heart and causing him to see the light.

Michael Crowley at The New Republic notices that Iran hawks are not completely sour on the Obama-as-Moses idea:

For more than a year conservatives have ridiculed the alleged belief that Obama’s special rhetorical powers can do anything, including parting the waters. Now they’re all clamoring for him to change the course of Iranian history by leveraging what Paul Wolfowitz calls “his enormous political prestige.” In other words, by giving a fancy speech.

I love it when A-list bloggers agree with me:

The architect of one of the greatest mistakes in the history of American foreign policy, a man who was part of an administration that deployed torture against countless innocents and unleashed a sectarian war in Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands, an incompetent ideologue with blood on his hands, who has failed to take any responsibility for the catastrophes he helped bring to the world … well, of course, this guy gets to lecture Obama on Iran in the op-ed pages of the Washington Post, alongside so many other neocons and Bush cronies who refuse to acknowledge error and refuse to take responsibility for the past.

What’s particularly ironic about the right’s enraged stance on Obama’s handling of the Iran crisis is the fact that their reasoning is precisely the opposite of the reasoning they used to intervene in Iraq — that Iraqis could not take action themselves to overthrow or revolt against their oppressive government. I remember so well the reply made by an acquaintance shortly after the Bush administration’s invasion of Iraq to my pointing out that it was patronizing for the U.S. to tell the Iraqi people we were invading their country to “liberate” them, when they had not asked to be “liberated.” He answered me, in dirge-like tones, “But Kathy… they can’t.” Meaning: Iraqis were too cowed and terrified of Saddam Hussein to liberate themselves; they need the U.S. to do it for them.

Well, here now we have Iranians taking to the streets by the hundreds of thousands, facing arrest, beatings, torture, and even death to protest election results they say are fraudulent — and beyond that, to demonstrate their opposition to Ahmadinejad himself — and fools like Paul Wolfowitz and Charles Krauthammer (whose column today is also about Obama and Iran) still insist that Iranians simply cannot carry on without the U.S. seal of approval.

Stuart Whatley at The Huffington Post wonders why conservatives are so drawn to the idea that the Iranian people’s revolt is all about us:

Obama is rightly ignoring the calls from both the right as well as within his own administration to take a stronger stand on the situation in Iran. These pleas — such as from Sen. John McCain, Rep. Mike Pence, Paul Wolfowitz, or Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, as reported in the New York Times Thursday — merely reflect the stale American solipsism that’s to blame for our sundered image abroad in years past. Obama has made notable progress in polishing the previous administration’s tarnish, but a single slip-up at the wrong moment could reverse it all in a second.

If Obama were to speak out and side with Mousavi in the current Iranian uprising, it would transform a legitimate, organic popular movement into a GOP teabag party. As many may recall, the conservative teabag movement in April was an embarrassing flop. Though it donned the mask of a grassroots uprising, it was quickly revealed to be naught but astro-turf (fake grassroots) — carefully orchestrated by conservative corporate lobbyists, Fox News and even the Republican Party. The result was that nobody took the “popular movement” seriously, regardless of its scale, prevalence, message or sincerity.

Curiously enough, this argument — that an overt endorsement of the pro-Mousavi, anti-Ahmadinejad protesters could very likely be the kiss of death for the uprising — is left unanswered by those on the right, like Krauthammer and Wolfowitz, who are so eager to condemn Obama’s circumspect approach:

President Obama has taken a cautious tone toward the demonstrators in Iran, with his stated reason being that more open support would discredit their cause. This strikes me as a sensible position. The revealed preferences of both sides suggest a mutual belief that an American embrace would hurt the protestors. The regime is trying (so far, without much success) to tie the demonstrators to the U.S., and the demonstrators are embracing the symbolism of the Iranian revolution (the color green, chants of “Alluah Akbar,” and so on) in order to demonstrate their patriotism and mainstream cultural status.

Still, this kind of judgment about an unfamiliar country’s internal politics is just a guess, and it’s a rebuttable proposition. What’s remarkable to me is that those on the other side refuses to rebut it. Today’s Washington Post op-ed page has two more columns lambasting Obama for failing to embrace the demonstrators. Today’s offerings are by Charles Krauthammer and Paul Wolfowitz. Neither one of them even mentions, let alone answers, Obama’s argument for why embracing the demonstrators would be counterproductive.

I don’t understand how you could write a column without ever once addressing the primary argument for the proposition you’re arguing against. The low quality of argument on this topic from the right is striking.

  • DLS
    "The low quality of argument on this topic from the right is striking."

    It's a cheap politics, so typical of the left (along with much lower quality as a rule), along with a misguided attempt to regain the moral high ground.

    Not only does Obama not want to be like Bush the elder and encourage a revolt that our military won't back with force, but Obama has to be like Nixon and deal with some mighty bad people in the Iranian government, likely to include the Ahmedinejad faction after the post-election riots have subsided or have been suppressed.

    Best just to let the left-like squawkers on the Left squawk without overreacting childishly to it. Just put them in their place if they actually say Obama is in cahoots with the clerics.
  • DLS
    "Stuart Whatley at The Huffington Post wonders why conservatives are so drawn to the idea that the Iranian people’s revolt is all about us"

    Actually, it's the lefties who are all enamored and projecting themselves on the revolution and on Twitter.

    * * *

    "Charles Krauthammer (whose column today is also about Obama and Iran)"

    This was in one of the main Detroit newspapers today. [yawn] It looks like cheap-shot politics and (as with GOP members of Congress) they shouldn't actually try to meddle any more than we should in Iran.

    (That some critics are neo-cons is no big deal; their hate-filled critics are worse than they have been.)

    I'm still waiting for Ann Coulter to accuse Obama of favoring the hard-liners, "because he's really a Muslim."
  • Is it just me, or do DLS and Jwest sound like the same person?
  • DLS
    " left-like squawkers on the Left"

    This was wrong. "Left-like squawkers on the Right" is correct (they're taking cheap shots and acting out of rare "indignation" the way the Left expresses such silly indignation or "outrage" so often). Just let 'em squawk; there is no need to overreact, especially when lefties have routinely been this way or much worse and lacking in substantive arguments. The regurgitation of any neo-con phrases or clauses by the neo-cons is also no cause for major alarm. These guys are just trying to regain the moral high ground they believe Obama is forfeiting by not being tough enough on the Iranian government and interfering in the post-election strife. Obama is smart in handling this gently or deftly. (For Christ's sake, he just got through telling Muslims that it's not our intention to go into other nations and tell them how to run them!)

    I hope you are able to tolerate things that follow, Kathy, because I suspect it's going to get worse. (Among other things, these guys are going to be emboldened in thinking they have more latitude to criticize Obama than they had before.)
  • DLS
    I'd be inclined to say it's just you, Ethos, but I know better; others also probably mischacterize people and misclassify them too simply and sloppily, also. I'm moderate center-right US-public ordinaire while J. West is probably more conservative (who knows, more affluent as well as better-looking, for all I know).
  • kathykattenburg
    Is it just me, or do DLS and Jwest sound like the same person?

    Jwest is worse.I can't imagine Jwest ever writing anything even mildly critical of Ann Coulter.
  • Both of them seem to share a brain so far as trashing "the Left" is concerned. Once you get past the usual platitudes there is some difference in substance, but it usually takes a few posts to get that far. In the mean time I just try to figure out why they can't just get to the point.
  • tidbits
    Kathy K -

    First, let me apologize for agreeing with you. No offense intended.

    If we do not tell our neighbors how to arrange the furniture in their house, by what arrogant presumption do we, or some of us, ordain to tell other nations how to arrange the political furniture in theirs? It is the egocentric insufferability of American "superiority" that has lead to general international disdain for our government. Obama, to his credit, has made some attempt to unwind that impression, and we should applaud that effort. Nor should this be a partisan issue. Those of us who broadly disagree broadly with administration economic policy, have a duty to recognize the administration's correct moves and speak in their favor.

    That there was but one dissenting vote in today's House resolution is to our shame. Thinking Democrats and Republicans alike owed it to America to understand the value of eschewing the political opportunism that comes with telling, however circumspectly, other cultures what to do. This will be used as evidence of American meddling, and those who protest in the streets and on the rooftops of Iranian cities will now have to justify their actions in light of that perception. Though no great fan of Ron Paul, I acknowledge his courage in being the sole voice of dissent today.
  • gadfly
    I'm curious Kathy -- do you ever post about any subject other than how much you hate right-wingers today?
  • tidbits
    "broadly disagree broadly"

    Let there be no doubt that I broadly disagree with the double use of the word broadly, just as much as I disagree broadly with the administration's broad economic policy. Still, to broadly paint in broad brush strokes does, at times, lead to broadly recognized grammatical errors.
  • daveinboca
    Actually, Wolfowitz [and SecState George Schulz] did take a brave stand in the Philippine episode with Marcos precisely BECAUSE the Philippines were supporting Reagan in many policy areas. Not that a skanky libtard like KK would notice, as she's too busy trying to bring Iraq [which turned out to be a victory, despite the treasonous ravings from the MSM lefties] and other red herrings.

    No mention, strangely, of the anonymous NYT op-ed article from an Iranian named "Sean" saying more or less the same thing as Wolfowitz and Krauthammer. That would be fair and balanced, two adjectives rarely used in any of KK's raving rants on this faux-moderate blog.

    Obama is a deer in the headlights, period, and is still sucking his thumb on Iran while the brave French speak for democracy and liberty.
  • AssistantVillageIdiot
    "one of the leading architects of the biggest policy failure for decades if not more,"

    except, of course, that it wasn't. I understand that some folks think so, but the reasons they have offered have never been too persuasive.
  • DaGoat
    "broadly disagree broadly"

    Nice work, you've been reported to the Dept of Redundancy Dept.
  • tidbits
    My guilty plea is on its way. Now I can never tell anyone here which, otherwise prestigious, university presented me with a degree in English Literature for fear of besmearching the reputation of my alma mater.
  • 'skanky libtard?' Dave. If it was my blog you'd be banned forever. Asshole.
  • kathykattenburg
    Obama is smart in handling this gently or deftly. (For Christ's sake, he just got through telling Muslims that it's not our intention to go into other nations and tell them how to run them!)

    I hope you are able to tolerate things that follow, Kathy, because I suspect it's going to get worse. (Among other things, these guys are going to be emboldened in thinking they have more latitude to criticize Obama than they had before.)


    This (by DLS) is also something jwest would never, ever, ever write. It's important to give credit where credit is due. DLS usually takes the right-wing position, but not always.
  • kathykattenburg
    Actually, Wolfowitz [and SecState George Schulz] did take a brave stand in the Philippine episode with Marcos precisely BECAUSE the Philippines were supporting Reagan in many policy areas.

    That is exactly what the people I quoted said. That's the point. (i.e., not that Wolfowitz or Shultz were brave with regard to the Philippines, but that they were able to take the stand *because* the U.S. had leverage with Philippine leaders). I have no idea why DaveinBoca thinks I ignored this point. This WAS my point (one of them).
  • kathykattenburg
    ... do you ever post about any subject other than how much you hate right-wingers today?

    The fact that you frame my writing this way sheds no light on my writing at all, but it shines a glaringly bright spotlight on your thought processes.
  • DLS
    "In the mean time I just try to figure out why they can't just get to the point."

    Actually, I do that, be it briefly sometimes (where appropriate) or by more elaborate ways, or while including related material at other times. I do admit to error if I wrongly presume everyone can read it.

    * * *

    " DLS usually takes the right-wing position, but not always."

    A more accurate statement would be "a conservative position" is good enough. "The right position" reads better still, but is overreaching, of course. Sometimes. [grin] I'm a moderate (typical center-right like most of the public overall), standard traditional libertarian guy who outgrew his youthful liberalism and idealism, like so many others. (Now I'm not about to be a Mushy Moderate, much less a liberal that hides behind the "moderate" name or uses it outright in a dishonest or euphemism-evasion manner.)

    Kathy, regarding the spotlight and where it falls, I would check your vision or your sense of direction. I am never going to be surprised if you blame "right-wingers" for the common cold or raining out some outdoor event you had planned to attend, then follow that gripe by saying how bad such people are. Not that you're necessarily professionally pathological like, say, Keith Olbermann, who makes Ann Coulter seem to flirt (almost) with being dignified and refined.
  • DLS
    "biggest policy failure for decades if not more"

    As someone else said already, it wasn't, of course. But at least this wasn't accompanied by Bush-and-Cheney-blood-for-oil-bashing in addition to a few swipes at the neo-cons.

    Nor was Vietnam as bad as so many opponents of that war then or now say.

    (It would be easy to name something like welfare programs, or the growth of entitlements as a fraction not only of GDP but more importantly of all federal expenditures as more accurate and worse failures, but that would be too easy.)

    What's happening here (with Obama and Iran) is just the latest exchange of political barbs and the latest volley of cheap shots at Obama by a still-defensive-and-dysfunctional GOP, another example of the celeb culture that perversely has grown and "vulgarized" in the same manner as appearances by politicians and commentators on television or radio where they interrupt each other and shout in the case of some shows like dogs barking and jostling for positions closest to one or more food bowls.

    Woof!
  • DLS
    "architects of the biggest policy failure for decades if not more"

    The Neo-Cons were, like liberals, naive and idealistic as well as elitist and conceited. "Benevolent Global Hegemony" really doesn't diverge much from many a liberal's dream of government command and control of the economy here in the USA and other developed nations if not the rest of the world. After all, much new regulation and other interventionism would have to be backed up with force if people declined to submit.

    The war in Iraq was not only meant to remove a threat, in the neo-cons' view, but would also be the means to transform the entire Middle East -- some nations may spontaneously free themselves when we go into Iraq, or after we transform it into the _modern_day_ Garden of Eden (with a Starbucks, KFC, and McDonald's on as many street corners as franchises can be obtained). And if need be, we could go on a new crusade as a catalyst for all this wondrousness, to punish those heathens, put 'em in their place.

    That's not what happened. There have been successes in Iraq, and failures as well as embarrassment and disgrace in the case of abu Ghraib (no excuse for hyping this; it is a blip in the bigger picture, as is Guantanamo). The Middle East didn't rush to support and even adopt us. The public had enough and was tired of the setbacks that have always been reported more than the successes (if it bleeds, it leads, and a US effort led by Republicans will gladly have its failures reported by the liberal media). The public voted thumbs down on the results of this effort (and on the GOP for acting like Dems at home) in 2006, and the Evil, Sinister Neo-Cons slunk away about the same time (when not before) Rumsfeld was made the big public sacrifice. And they lived unhappily ever after. The End.

    It's just coincidental that they've been among those sniping at Obama, that's all. They needn't and they shouldn't be hyped any more than the Religious Right (the two objects of hatred for many on the Left, including Fulminant, Florid Mikey here on this site).
  • kathykattenburg
    As someone else said already, it wasn't, of course.

    Of course it was.

    Only one of the original goals of the invasion was realized. Everything after that was mission creep, and the new goals that Bush et al. made up in service of that mission creep were not realized, either.

    That's very much just for starters.
  • kathykattenburg
    I am never going to be surprised if you blame "right-wingers" for the common cold or raining out some outdoor event you had planned to attend, then follow that gripe by saying how bad such people are.

    Of course I don't do any of the above, and never have done.

    Not that you're necessarily professionally pathological like, say, Keith Olbermann, who makes Ann Coulter seem to flirt (almost) with being dignified and refined.

    This is absurd.
blog comments powered by Disqus
© 2005-2009 The Moderate Voice | Site design by Elegant Themes | Site customization, hosting, and security by Enxit Group, LLC