Jon Voight: Crazy As a Loon
Here he is, ranting at the Republican fundraising dinner last night:
Here is the transcript, via Think Progress:
VOIGHT: My most pressing concern at this hour is the safety of Israel. I think Obama has no idea that Israel was built on the blood and sweat of the Jewish people. Every blade of grass, every tree, has been a successful effort because the Jewish people understanding they would have a safe homeland forever. He could not possibly understand this or he would know that the Jewish people are tried time and time again to give the Palestinians land and bring a peaceful solution. But every attempt, every attempt, was returned with violence. The Palestinians used Gaza to attack Israel. As far as I’m concerned, their only agenda is to wipe Israel off the Earth. And he reprimands the Israeli people, Obama. Like he’s a professor and they’re the school children. I was embarrassed to watch his press conference with the great war hero, Benjamin Netanyahu, who has helped keep his country safe for many years. Obama sat there with complete arrogance that he is the new American power, that he is able to dictate what he thinks is best for Israel. So how worried are we supposed to be now? Was I hearing things when he said that Iran might have the right to nuclear power? Are we supposed to be sitting and waiting, watching for the possibility of a new Holocaust? Who’s going to take the responsibility to keep Ameri — Israel safe?
I’ll tell you why this really scares the hell out of me. Because everything Obama has recommended has turned out to be disasterous. His so-called stimulus package and his budgets will leave our grandchildren with great burdens and great debts. The government is now owning car companies and banks and we’re losing job after job. Our unemployment rate is an astronomic 9.4. And of course they send out Joe Biden, one of the great double-talkers of our time, to tell us the unemployment rate is getting better. The government wants to run health care and tell people what doctors they can see. How much they can make. What cars to drive. And they’re killing off the entrepreneurs who are the backbone of our economy. It’s no wonder that the Russian newspaper Pravda, the former house organ for the former Soviet Communist regime, has said the American descent into Marxism is happening with breath-taking speed. We can blame Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Chris Dodd, George Soros, David Axelrod and their ilk for the downfall of this country. It saddens me greatly to think we were the great power for good in the world. We as Americans knew America to be strong. And we were the liberators of the entire world. We are becoming a weak nation. Obama really thinks that he is a soft-spoken Julius Ceaser. He thinks he’s going to conquer the world with his soft-spoken sweet talk. And really thinks he’s going to bring all the enemies of the world into a little playground where they’ll swing each other back and forth. We and we alone are the right frame of mind to free this nation from this Obama oppression.
And let’s give thanks to all the great people like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin, William Bennett, Glenn Beck, Hugh Hewitt, Dennis Prager, Michael Medved, Dennis Miller, Dick Morris, Ann Coulter, John Kasich, Michael Steele, Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich, Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson, Shelby Steele, Charles Krauthammer, Michelle Malkin, Fred Barnes and so many others. Let’s give thanks to them for not giving up and staying the course to bring an end to this false prophet Obama.
Imagine having a man like that for a father.
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22 Responses to “Jon Voight: Crazy As a Loon”
Is it just me, or is the magnitude of right-wing craziness directly proportional to the duration of Obama's popularity?
Kathy,
Apparently there is something you disagree with in Mr. Voight’s remarks. I have no idea what that would be, since you decided instead to launch an ad hominem attack with no explanation.
Perhaps you could enlighten our group of moderates why you choose to insult instead of discuss the points he raised.
If, by chance, you believed the statement that Jon Voight is “Crazy as a loon” should go unchallenged, you might be better off posting articles like this at the left-wing hate sites that traffic in unexplained invective.
Apparently there is something you disagree with in Mr. Voight’s remarks. I have no idea what that would be….
That's because you are crazy as a loon, too. I addressed that point in a reply to a comment of yours on one of my other posts. It's quite amusingly charming of you to provide me such an elegantly placed illustration.
Great we are reverting to the third grade. “You're stupid” “No you are!”. Don't you just love quality insightful writing? To bad we now have to go somewhere else for that.
>>Apparently there is something you disagree with in Mr. Voight’s remarks. I have no idea what that would be….
Answer: The whole thing. I think that's pretty obvious.
“Madness!….Madness!”
“And let’s give thanks to all the great people like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin, William Bennett, Glenn Beck, Hugh Hewitt, Dennis Prager, Michael Medved, Dennis Miller, Dick Morris, Ann Coulter, John Kasich, Michael Steele, Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich, Thomas Sowell, Victor Davis Hanson, Shelby Steele, Charles Krauthammer, Michelle Malkin, Fred Barnes and so many others. Let’s give thanks to them for not giving up and staying the course to bring an end to this false prophet Obama.”
I think that list sums up why Voight is talking out his anus. Comedians, commentators, firebrands. Not a true conservative statesman or leader among them, certainly nobody with any real alternatives to Obama's policies other than to disingenuously call “Socialism” when they wouldn't know it if it bit them on their backsides.
Comedians, commentators, firebrands. Not a true conservative statesman or leader among them
Agree on this – the list of GOP “leaders” doesn't bode well for improving their image. I do like Thomas Sowell though.
The master of ad hominem attacks says:
“I have no idea what that would be, since you decided instead to launch an ad hominem attack with no explanation.”
The master of insults says:
“Perhaps you could enlighten our group of moderates why you choose to insult instead of discuss the points he raised.”
The master of invectives says:
“…you might be better off posting articles like this at the left-wing hate sites that traffic in unexplained invective.”
So, now the next step in a Cult of Personality manifests itself. Objecting to the Great Leader and His policies is a sign of madness.
Obama has called for a two state solution to the Israel/Palestinian conflict.
If not a two state solution, there seems to only be three alternatives:
1. Apartheid – Rule the Palestinians much as the South African whites did.
2. Expulsion. – Kick out the Palestinians from Palestine. or kill them all and let Jehovah sort them out.
3. One State – Make the Palestinians Jewish citizens. as if they would want such citizenship, and would include either the dissolving of Gaza among neighboring Arab states or annexation by Israel.
Or accept the idea that Palestinian pride and Arab sentiments requires a separate government for a disparate people separate from Israel. OK you on the Right, which of these options seems at least plausible, and which of these are just bat-sh*t crazy?
There was a two-state solution in the beginning, Jordan and Israel.
And how do you create another two-state solution, given the first attempt failed so miserably, when the current leadership of what would be the new Palestinian state has as a stated goal the complete destruction of Israel and the forcing of all Jews from the Middle East??
Austin
So your only solution is no solution? BOTH sides have screwed this up time and again, but if until somebody comes up with another feasible idea, the two-state is the only rationale way to approach this. IMO anyway.
I happen to agree with everything Jon Voight said, especially the part about leaving our grandchildren a large debt to pay.
The governement and the people governed have excahnged places. It can no longer be said that our government is a government of “We, the people.” President Obama has used our financial situation as a means to an end. If we borrow enough money, if we allow the federal government to encroach into private businesses, and if we allow the government to dictate the salaries, bonuses, and who should be CEO of companies; we become a socialistic country with governmental intrusion and are no longer a financially sound republic.
It is not just the economy that President Obama is attempting to change and altar to his liking, it is the way America will deal with tyrants and despots of this world. Believe it or not, walk softly and carry a big stick is a far better deterrant than, “Can't we all just get along.” That mentality will only bring on the dhimmituding of America and make us servants to the Muslim world.
People need to wake up and smell the coffee. We are in real danger of being in real trouble with these tyrants, bullies, and despots in this world.
theodpath
“I happen to agree with everything Jon Voight said, especially the part about leaving our grandchildren a large debt to pay. “
Where do you think that large debt came from? Bush blew up our economy, Obama has been faced with fixing his mess.
“It can no longer be said that our government is a government of “We, the people.” “
When do you believe that our government functioned as you envision? WS and big business has run things through lobbyists for as long as I can remember. Please tell me when things were different.
“Believe it or not, walk softly and carry a big stick is a far better deterrent than, “Can't we all just get along.” “
Again, where did Obama say that we should just get along? As to speaking softly, Bush only said “my way or the highway” to the rest of the world. That really worked in Iraq, did it not?
So please, where is the resonance in your agreement?
HemmD -
I have no idea what the solution is, if there is one. Of course I hope one can be found, and it may be the two-state solution, and it may take something completely different. My main point twofold – two-state was tried and failed, so that path does not seem likely to succeed, and that no solution, no matter how reasonable, can possibly succeed if one side is committed to the destruction of the other.
But my original post was my reaction to what this thread is really about. Disagreeing with Obama is madness? Please.
I would like to point out the two main points in John Voight's speech. Also, I would like to acknowledge that Voight was making a rhetorical argument rather than posing logical points of debate. Once the rhetoric has been separated we are left with the following reasonable points to debate.
1) The safety of Israel is in jeopardy due to Obama's statements in his Cairo speech, particularly that “Israel must also live up to its obligations to ensure that Palestinians can live, and work, and develop their society,” which implies that Israel has not offered full citizenship and freedom to Palestinians and non-Jews in Israel. Voight concludes from this statement that Obama does not understand the history of the Israel/Palestine conflict because of the above implication despite facts to the contrary.
2) The stimulus package engineered and promoted by the Obama presidency is compounding the economic problems in this country and will raise the debt to a truly unmanageable amount which future generations will be forced to shoulder.
I think this thread would be interesting if we could put aside one-liners and instead write our beliefs with evidence to back them up. That would be a true logical debate beneficial to both sides of the argument and much more likely to bring forth understanding and compromise.
Would anyone care to debate these two points?
It's much easier, TrueDebate, for those who disagree with Voight to dismiss him as a raving lunatic and then attack anyone who questions why he was called that (as though it was self evident, without explanation for why his opinions are being deemed insane) as another raving lunatic. This is what passes for actual political discourse in our country today.
CStanley –
Thank you for your well thought and measured response. I appreciate people who are willing to speak calmly and rationally about highly emotional, political topics.
I agree that the rhetoric was pretty thick when he spoke of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. And, as you say, the trend towards moral equivalency between the sides in this conflict is a troubling in that it points to a short historical memory, if not an effort to completely re-write history.
The stimulus package and state of the economy is a topic that I don't have the time to go in to while I’m here at work. I'm still learning about this site (have to get on tonight if hubby will let me use the 'puter ;-p) so I don't know if there's a more appropriate place than this thread where I can start a conversation about it. Overall, I am worried by the amount of money being spent almost as much as I am about the projects funded by that money.
I just heard on the radio newsbreak that it has been confirmed that the motivation for the shootings was anti-Semitism. The shooter was a white supremacist (and elderly one, I think, like in his 60's… could be wrong about that part.)
News flash: Voight is the latest to make conservative remarks, and be subjected to liberal looniess. No real news.
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True Debate:
1. It was wrong for Obama to even imply to any amount that Israel and the Arabs are morally equivalent and equally deserving of blame for the conflict (it's almost all the Arabs' fault), but this was a good speech meant to exploit his celebrity appeal and to try to assuage what is often an ignorant as well as an irrational population. I'm more annoyed at the statement he made about settlements; it's not only that it's harsh and even extreme to demand a 100% cessation, but it shouldn't be bluntly said in public and it immediately weakens Israel with respect to its enemies in any future negotiations (which is obviously the wrong thing to do given the other side is almost 100% at fault in this conflict and the side overwhelmingly in need of making concessions as well as reforms for a change).
2. The stimulus has been shown to have fizzled (“create four million new jobs” changed to “create or save three and a half million jobs” has been shown not to be the case — the figure widely reported for results is only 150,000 jobs). Much of the public is numb or naive or ignorant about the Obama spending dwarfing Bush's (and the liberal media double standard doesn't help, either). The “lesson” seems to already be to “need” to spend even more, much more, while at the same time, Washington, including Obama, isn't logically and properly waiting for improvement before launching a vast, expensive health care provision, but instead actually is starting the effort _now_, with the threat of vast new taxes to pay for the vast new spending (while engaged in mere pretence of “responsibilty” with the latest “pay-as-you-go” fraud). What will the taxes do to the economy?
“Disagreeing with Obama is madness? Please.”
After all, there are better terms. “Heresy” and “apostasy” come first and foremost to mind. So far, not “crime.”