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The Rush Limbaugh EIB Network Female Summit: Transcript, Highlights, Denial
This morning, I posted about how, yesterday, Rush Limbaugh called for a women’s summit because of the uniquely high gender gap reported by Public Policy Polling. Limbaugh wanted to find out, through a summit:
what it is I must do to close the gender gap — or, if not what it is I must do to close the gender gap, what it is I’ve done that has caused the gender gap; assuming the gender gap is true and that the poll is true.
So, this evening, I forced myself to read the entire transcript that was made available, and then, I dissected it and distilled the input from the callers that Limbaugh’s show put through – and the responses from Rush to the input.
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12 Responses to “The Rush Limbaugh EIB Network Female Summit: Transcript, Highlights, Denial”
I know you seem focused on womens issues but I think the greater threat to the GOP from this poll is not the women gender gap but the “YOUNG VOTERS.”
This was what was striking to me which almost insures the GOP is heading for an abysmal future simply by not recognizing that their agenda is inclusive of new young voters.
Why would the new young voters be opposed to the GOP?
1. The war. Who really wants to go fight in a highly unpopular war.
2.Health care. Who really wants to spend their money on health care when they are more concerned about partying and having fun. The things typical young people do.
3. Who wants to see stupidly rich people destroy the country with 100 million dollar bonus's while they cant buy a beer?
4. Who wants to see gays prevented from being given their due? Young kids growing up with gay classmates have made the social change while the GOP continues to fight for the old ways.
5. Abortion. What young kid wants to pay 250,000 dollars in child support the next 18 years for a mistake??
I completely disagree with the way you frame most of those issues, Greenschemes, but you're completely right about the need to articulate conservatism in new ways to start recapturing some of the younger voters.
Just looking at your list, I think it's pretty condescending to think that young people can't understand any degree of personal responsibility and have to be appealed to in a lowest common denominator manner. Your comments basically sum up to “Eat, drink, and be merry and let the government take care of you.”
I think conservatives can provide adequate counterarguments because we believe that young people have brains and can see the problem with that mentality. Part of the problem is that today's young generation has not experienced a lot of the social problems that resulted from the big government solutions in the past.
My list was intended to stimulate debate. Because I framed the list of 5 in the manner in which the Democrats would frame it and then ask anyone who dares join in to tell me why Young People would rather follow conservative personal responsibility talking points when its so much easier in a world driven by gluttony to follow this much easier list of dos and donts.
The fact that I can stir Conservatives to disagree with me about the framing of a debate indicates to me that I continue to do my job which for me is to point fingers at both dems and repubs, conservatives and liberals and call them out on their beliefs.
And Jill, you're taking Rush WAY too seriously. This is a schtick, not a scientific experiment he's conducting. In your post, you seem as though you're discovering that he's going to ignore all of the suggestions and stick to being who he is anyway- as though this is some revelation. Of course he's not going to change, it's working for him. He's trying to make a point about cultural gender perceptions as they relate to his style of machismo. Lighten up, it's entertainment with a little social commentary.
You're right, Greenschemes, all good points. I've always felt that conservatism is a 'harder sell' because you have to be able to make people think beyond the short term desires and think through long term consequences more, plus ask them to take more personal responsibility. The upside, of course, is more freedom (please, liberal commenters, spare me the rebuttal about 'staying out of people's bedrooms'- if you prefer, think of what I'm saying in terms of a libertarian philosophy and not what you consider the Republican ideas on social issues.)
And with freedom, people can aspire to greater personal potential- that's how the arguments should be articulated.
But you're right too, that culturally we've moved so far away from personal responsibility that it's even harder to convey these messages. It may be that it's not even possible to get them to resonate until the pendulum swings back.
Well to be honest I think its the players that demanded it.
I think your probably right. I think Sony learned their lesson with the SWG NGE. Listen to the players. However were the players complaining about crafting when they dont craft? I doubt it.
Personally I think there was a shift in the mechanics of plat farming. Sony hired an outside source to illiminate plat farming and coincidently the crafters in this game get a nerf bat taken to them.
I believe that Sony and their new partners just cant believe that people would enjoy making money in this game more then they would enjoy raiding and thus if you were an avid crafter making money you must be a plat farmer. I dont know that for a fact cause Sony has never said……More of my pet peeves that I think they should enlighten me on.
Never the less I return to your original post. What they say and what they really mean are always subject to interpretaion. Asking for imput does not mean they will listen. It just makes the players feel as if Sony is listening. Saying they will keep you informed is subject to interpretaion as well. Saying they will does not mean you will like what they have in mind. That was my point.
My game play has been nerfed because I dont raid. Dont want to raid and find no enjoyment in dissecting this game down to every last dps point. I come here just to play…..just to escape, not turn this game into an exercise in physics and linear equations.
They are taking that from those of us who just want to play a game, not live our lives thru this game. Smedley said we are appealing to the casual gamers more and more and then make the game all about hard core raiding. Gawd this game is schizophrenic.
CStanley, making it tougher is that the GOP really has moved away from being the party of individual freedoms over the past decade. Both the GOP and Democrats are perfectly happy to tell you what to do as long as it advances their agenda. The social conservatives have won out over the libertarians in that argument, so I think it's hard to argue that the upside of more responsibility is more freedom as it applies to the GOP.
I think greenschemes (I have to force myself not to write “greensleeves” every time) also has a good point. Although Obama did bring up the importance of self-reliance during his address, there was much more of what the government was going to do for them than the other way around. That appears to be the message that resonates right now.
I agree with all of that, DaGoat and GS.
Although Obama did bring up the importance of self-reliance during his address, there was much more of what the government was going to do for them than the other way around. That appears to be the message that resonates right now.
Absolutely. Every time I hear Obama speak, I hear JFK's “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country” followed by “OK, now here's what your country is going to do for you!” And the crowd eats it up.
Everything Rush does, he does for ratings, controversy and to poke the opposition's beehive. Yet time and time again people fall for it and give credit where it's not due.
You Know CStanley
I have often thought of Obama as a cross between JFK/RFK and Ronald Reagan with some Billy Graham thrown in for good measure.
Despite all that you still cannot get away from his message and the message I heard the other night was directed at those in the middle, exclusive of the right and hoping to pull in the far left with tidbits here and there. But all in all it was a speech that was quite simply………..”THE CANDY STORE IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS.”
Now it is obvious that the Democrats are going to spend mindlessly like GWB and friends did so wheres the beef democrats? Where is the beef? I want to see health care and Green energy and our dependence on foreign oil cut. Stop lying to me and do what you say your going to do.
You OWN all 3 chambers. DO IT. Git er dun.
rush did you here about the $50.00 per handgun we will have to pay on our income tax.
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heres the email address for $50.00 income tax on guns
You can find it by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099. http://ron.dotson.net/guns/sb2099.htm
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