The Rush Limbaugh EIB Network Female Summit: Transcript, Highlights, Denial

I know you seem focused on womens issues but I think the greater threat to the GOP from this poll is not the women gender gap but the "YOUNG VOTERS."

This was what was striking to me which almost insures the GOP is heading for an abysmal future simply by not recognizing that their agenda is inclusive of new young voters.

Why would the new young voters be opposed to the GOP?

1. The war. Who really wants to go fight in a highly unpopular war.
2.Health care. Who really wants to spend their money on health care when they are more concerned about partying and having fun. The things typical young people do.
3. Who wants to see stupidly rich people destroy their own companies and in so doing the country as well with 100 million dollar bonus's while they cant buy a beer?
4. Who wants to see gays prevented from being given their due? Young kids growing up with gay classmates have made the social change while the GOP continues to fight for the old ways.
5. Abortion. What young kid wants to pay 250,000 dollars in child support the next 18 years for a mistake??

The GOP can continue on with its old traditional way of doing things and seeing the world but if they do then they have only one strategy to fall back on. Waiting for the Democrats to mess up. I propose that this is the wrong strategy going forward but it seems to be what they are trying to do and if that is really their strategy then I believe its a road to perdition. Perhaps short term it gets them back in power but times they are a changing and if the GOP does not keep up they will be left behind.

I completely disagree with the way you frame most of those issues, Greenschemes, but you're completely right about the need to articulate conservatism in new ways to start recapturing some of the younger voters.

Just looking at your list, I think it's pretty condescending to think that young people can't understand any degree of personal responsibility and have to be appealed to in a lowest common denominator manner. Your comments basically sum up to "Eat, drink, and be merry and let the government take care of you."

I think conservatives can provide adequate counterarguments because we believe that young people have brains and can see the problem with that mentality. Part of the problem is that today's young generation has not experienced a lot of the social problems that resulted from the big government solutions in the past.

My list was intended to stimulate debate. Because I framed the list of 5 in the manner in which the Democrats would frame it and then ask anyone who dares join in to tell me why Young People would rather follow conservative personal responsibility talking points when its so much easier in a world driven by gluttony to follow this much easier list of dos and donts.(No I'm not suggesting Democrats or liberals are into gluttony)

The fact that I can stir Conservatives to disagree with me about the framing of a debate indicates to me that I continue to do my job which for me is to point fingers at both dems and repubs, conservatives and liberals and call them out on their beliefs.

My list is simple. Tell me how the GOP fights a generation of gluttony and greed and avarice by an entire nation that seems to be teaching young people that easy is better then difficult when it comes to personal responsibility.

And Jill, you're taking Rush WAY too seriously. This is a schtick, not a scientific experiment he's conducting. In your post, you seem as though you're discovering that he's going to ignore all of the suggestions and stick to being who he is anyway- as though this is some revelation. Of course he's not going to change, it's working for him. He's trying to make a point about cultural gender perceptions as they relate to his style of machismo. Lighten up, it's entertainment with a little social commentary.

You're right, Greenschemes, all good points. I've always felt that conservatism is a 'harder sell' because you have to be able to make people think beyond the short term desires and think through long term consequences more, plus ask them to take more personal responsibility. The upside, of course, is more freedom (please, liberal commenters, spare me the rebuttal about 'staying out of people's bedrooms'- if you prefer, think of what I'm saying in terms of a libertarian philosophy and not what you consider the Republican ideas on social issues.)

And with freedom, people can aspire to greater personal potential- that's how the arguments should be articulated.

But you're right too, that culturally we've moved so far away from personal responsibility that it's even harder to convey these messages. It may be that it's not even possible to get them to resonate until the pendulum swings back.

I would agree with your assessment. However many times in this debate the Democrats/Liberals always rise up in indignation when we suggest that our way.........Conservative way is much harder then the liberal way.

Yet I have to agree that when you choose the personal responsibility route it is more likely to set you up for a bigger fall. I think that is what happened with the greed and avarice of a nation led this time not by Democrats and Liberals but by Republicans and Conservatives. We earned this black eye. Now were going to have to do something to earn the trust back. To reach out to that new generation of voters that are coming of age to vote.

Give them a reason to be conservatives and Republicans.

CStanley, making it tougher is that the GOP really has moved away from being the party of individual freedoms over the past decade. Both the GOP and Democrats are perfectly happy to tell you what to do as long as it advances their agenda. The social conservatives have won out over the libertarians in that argument, so I think it's hard to argue that the upside of more responsibility is more freedom as it applies to the GOP.

I think greenschemes (I have to force myself not to write "greensleeves" every time) also has a good point. Although Obama did bring up the importance of self-reliance during his address, there was much more of what the government was going to do for them than the other way around. That appears to be the message that resonates right now.

I agree with all of that, DaGoat and GS.

Although Obama did bring up the importance of self-reliance during his address, there was much more of what the government was going to do for them than the other way around. That appears to be the message that resonates right now.

Absolutely. Every time I hear Obama speak, I hear JFK's "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" followed by "OK, now here's what your country is going to do for you!" And the crowd eats it up.

Everything Rush does, he does for ratings, controversy and to poke the opposition's beehive. Yet time and time again people fall for it and give credit where it's not due.

You Know CStanley

I have often thought of Obama as a cross between JFK/RFK and Ronald Reagan with some Billy Graham thrown in for good measure.

Despite all that you still cannot get away from his message and the message I heard the other night was directed at those in the middle, exclusive of the right and hoping to pull in the far left with tidbits here and there. But all in all it was a speech that was quite simply..........."THE CANDY STORE IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS."

Now it is obvious that the Democrats are going to spend mindlessly like GWB and friends did so wheres the beef democrats? Where is the beef? I want to see health care and Green energy and our dependence on foreign oil cut. Stop lying to me and do what you say your going to do.

You OWN all 3 chambers. DO IT. Git er dun.

rush did you here about the $50.00 per handgun we will have to pay on our income tax.

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heres the email address for $50.00 income tax on guns

You can find it by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099. http://ron.dotson.net/guns/sb2099.htm
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