Jindal for GOP Response: More Image is Everything, But Tenets? Not So Much

Am I the only one who is amazed at how, only six months ago, John McCain and Sarah Palin were the image of the Republican Party and wanted to be and were supported by their party to be the image of the White House and now, Republican National Committee chair Michael Steele and Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal are the image?

Frankly, the choice of Steele as chair and Jindal as the person to deliver the GOP response to President Obama’s speech this evening, could not be more emblematic of just how true it is for the GOP that changing the image has absolutely nothing to do with changing their basic tenets – which is exactly what Steele said would be what he would do when he took the helm.

And damned if he isn’t doing just that. Problem is: How does anyone believe that this is going to be the way back to winning minds and votes?  Does Steele really think that his image and Jindal’s image are more persuasive than McCain’s and Palin’s? Is this an admission of how wrong McCain and Palin are as images for the GOP? What on earth does the GOP actually look like?

I know – I’m just a blogging left of center something or other. But I haven’t even gotten to the hip-hop makeover Steele wants to deploy. And I can tell you, based on firsthand experience with my very respected friend jimi izrael, I know what it is to not understand what a hip-hop makeover even means, and I’d put good money down on the fact that a whole lot of people who call themselves members of the Grand Old Party don’t have a clue about what it is either. jimi, you might be able to make some extra money translating, just like I had to ask you to do for me way back when (oh, okay – and still once in a while).

Do people even realize that if the GOP could at least accept that democracy means sometimes you don’t get to control everything, a lot of this stuff wouldn’t even be happening? Re-organizing, getting better, understanding what people want – that’s all well and good. But part of the problem for the GOP also is the fact that it absolutely refuses to accept that Obama is president and that the Democrats are in the majority in the Congress. I mean, they actually literally are in denial about how it happened and that it’s the way it is and they just, don’t, like it.

Well – the Dems didn’t like it for all those years either – but you didn’t see them rejecting everything left and right – they just kept on working.

Anyway, I’m starting to ramble more than usual. If this meaningless messing with image interests you, for more evidence that that’s all the GOP cares about (image), read and/or listen to these two NPR pieces:

A Defining Moment for Jindal-And GOP’s Future?

GOP Looks to Minorities for Leadership (interview with Juan Williams)

The GOPs actions remind me of the video for the song “Cry” where the faces change all the time but the song stays the same:

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Cross-posted from Writes Like She Talks.

66 Comments

  1. One of the most sensible comments I've seen from you, Rudi.

  2. When a market gets some new core technology that drives all sorts of products, then it allows for massive new markets.

    Which is why I have been begging the Democrats to get to work do what they say we should do. But you know what. This is another example of the Democrats saying one thing and doing something else. Can't wait for all the excuses to start rolling in that we cant do anything with Green technology because them darn GOP'ers keep blocking it. Yeah right.

    Poverty. Why isnt it fixed? Well if they fixed it they would have nothing to blame the GOP for.
    Green. Why arent we going full bore with Green. Solar, wind, tidal, geothermal? Why? Because if we do then they have nothing to blame on the GOP. Because fixing it would diminish the differences between the two parties.

    I am a states right person who believes that politics is about dividing the country. Not uniting it.

    This is and always has been the starting point for any discussion that I have regarding Democrats and Republicans. They both know that if they fix whats broke, then they are no longer needed and their basic need to have power and wealth is then squelched. And that aint gonna happen. Not in their world.

    So let the debate roar on about yes we can or no we cant.

    I find it amazing that the Democrats passed a stimulus bill and spent all their time not talking up what they passed but trying to divide the country on their own bill by pointing out that all the GOP'ers opposed it.

    They won and tried to make it sound like a loss by blaming the GOP for not voting for it.

    Blaming them for what? Not voting for something that passed. Incredible that the American public does not see thru this charade.

  3. CS Here is even another suprise, I just found a Republican governor whose bright, competent and qualified, not white trash like Palin. This man is like the former gov of Michigan(Miliken); I could vote for a man like Jon Huntsman(here and here ), not the current clown posse. Notice that the second link is from WashTimes.

  4. Green – you have constructed a straw woman:

    But essentially the biggest difference between you and me Jill is that you are a Democrat establishment person and I abhor both parties while calling myself a Republican when in reality Im a conservative more then I am a Republican. Therefore I have no problems pointing fingers at the GOP while you continue to believe that your party while it might have a few faults if you look hard enough has all the answers.

    Where were you last year – almost exactly a year ago – when I wrote about Rev. Wright and Obama?

    Where were you this past month and every other time I've written about my intense dislike of the faith-based and community initiatives now neighborhood partnerships program? Can you point me to where you slammed the GOP and Bush for its creation and expansion of that same office?

    Where were you when I wrote against the removal of the reproductive health money in the stimulus plan?

    Where were you when I wrote against Obama calling the reporter in the gym, “Sweetie” and never answering her question?

    Where were you when I wrote about how wretched the sexist treatment of Sarah Palin was?

    Where were you when I wrote against the racist, sexist image of Michelle Obama that came from a lefty blogger at Daily Kos?

    Green – I've been blogging for almost four years. After you've read my literally thousands of post that demonstrate independence that has earned me great party ire – which I cherish btw – then you can set me up as a straw woman. But if that's the best you can do, well, then really – it's no wonder that the GOP is in the particle state it's in.

  5. Rudi, I like Huntsman too, as well as Mitch Daniels of Indiana. While the celebrity crazed media and masses focus on the 'stars' like Palin and Jindal and Crist and Schwarzenegger, I think those two are examples of the substantive direction of the party (Jindal also deserves to be on that list but he's also a celebrity, for better or worse.)

  6. It's a four hour long documentary but I encourage you to watch “The Century of the Self” at some point. The episodes are very nicely segmented to describe four major movements of the 20th century: the transition into the Roaring 20s, post WWII conformity, the hippie self exploratory backlash and mass individual consumerism. The moral of the story is that I think he does a very good job of presenting primary sources that demonstrate how a) the idea of rational, independent consumer is completely a myth and how a lot of the modern ideals of individuality are based on constructed reality that is actively managed and b) that people are completely unpredictable about how they will respond to that constructed reality due to unforeseen consequences and at some points things just get crazy and spawn quickly shifting cultural movements that negate all efforts at control…until they retailor their message. Literally it is becoming a victim of your own success.

    While that documentary is a scathing indictment of the idea that capitalism and democracy actually creates “freedom” I am eager to watch this prior documentary by the same guy “Pandora's Box” that focuses on how attempting to have managed solutions makes everything fall apart and this one that is an overall critique of trying to simplify complex behavior in general.

    I'm not sure what the moral of the story is taken as a whole. I'll wait to see if the others are as convincing but if they are I'd have to say that it's obvious that conservatives are right that big government doesn't work, but liberals are right that there are times where there needs to be strong government that provides vision and leadership that private individuals don't. Scientists are right that some things can be quantified and give guidance about what works in general, but many things are impossible to measure and even if they are measured, then trying to implement the results changes the environment and invalidates the measurement. Too much too much conformity is bad, too much self centeredness is worse. Etc. etc. The key is humility, skepticism and acceptance of balancing forces.

    I thought it was the most concrete representation of Taoist thought that I've come across.

  7. Sounds pretty interesting. On your part about the question of democracy and capitalism create freedom, I don't really think it's a question of creating it but just permitting it. But then there's the philosophic tension between freedom and it's potential use for good or evil, and the difference between the political philosophies as I see hinges on whether or not you primarily on how much you are willing to cede freedoms to government if you believe that it can drive public actions for the general good of society. Conservatives believe, not so much…and that other nongovernmental institutions like the churches and civic associations are better used for that purpose.

  8. Jill

    Where were you when I wrote against the removal of the reproductive health money in the stimulus plan?

    Where were you when I wrote against Obama calling the reporter in the gym, “Sweetie” and never answering her question?

    Where were you when I wrote about how wretched the sexist treatment of Sarah Palin was?

    Where were you when I wrote against the racist, sexist image of Michelle Obama that came from a lefty blogger at Daily Kos?

    Im sure I was at work.

    Secondly most of what you have pointed to I consider bad taste. Not Politics.

  9. Where were you last year – almost exactly a year ago – when I wrote about Rev. Wright and Obama?

    You were a Clinton supporter. Hardly a surprise that you were writing negative things about Obama.

    Where were you this past month and every other time I've written about my intense dislike of the faith-based and community initiatives now neighborhood partnerships program? Can you point me to where you slammed the GOP and Bush for its creation and expansion of that same office?

    This one we might have some common ground. While I was not opposed to it. I certainly have no support for it and believe that if left unchecked that Obama will turn it into a giant pac by allowing these so called faith based groups submit to government rules to get money which would preclude most of the right leaning faith based charities from partaking and this would be wrong.

    Green – I've been blogging for almost four years. After you've read my literally thousands of posts that demonstrate independence that has earned me great party ire – which I cherish btw – then you can set me up as a straw woman. But if that's the best you can do, well, then really – it's no wonder that the GOP is in the particle state it's in.

    Ive been essentially responding to this article and your words directed at me. If Ive assumed something that is not true then that is why YOU are the well known figure and Im just an obscure commenator on a blog in bloggville.

  10. Green -you are even confusing yourself!!

    This is YOUR line – not mine: “”The GOP is simply doing what the Democrats did the moment they were put in charge in 2007.”

    You are in an echo chamber and if you are happy there, go with it. In the meantimee, please produce one thing I wrote “in support” of Hillary Clinton.

  11. Green – you can't even be consistent with yourself. Regarding Bush's creation and expansion of a White House faithbased and community initiatives office that doled out more than $2.2 BILLION a year to faith-based/community orgs:

    “This one we might have some common ground. While I was not opposed to it. I certainly have no support for it and believe that if left unchecked that Obama will turn it into a giant pac by allowing these so called faith based groups submit to government rules to get money which would preclude most of the right leaning faith based charities from partaking and this would be wrong.”

    Hello? Bush? Created it? Funded it? Expanded it? For eight years?

    You have nothing to say for the GOP's continued support for that office?

  12. Jill

    Well Im glad to provide you with humor. Thanks for taking out of context what I wrote, changing it to mean something else and then claim Im confused.

    I was responding to your post which quoted my line. However we both know what your doing. Lets just call it a day.

  13. Green – you were the first one to leave a comment in this thread – even though you didn't comment on the issue raised by the thread – you just picked on the Democrats, rather than reflect on the Republicans.

    The topic of the post was: the GOP is placing the primacy of image over the primacy of anything else, yet they keep changing the image they want people to see. I supplied to MSM clips that back that up.

    I stand by the original post. Thanks for your time.

  14. YOUR THESIS.
    Am I the only one who is amazed at how, only six months ago, John McCain and Sarah Palin were the image of the Republican Party and wanted to be and were supported by their party to be the image of the White House and now, Republican National Committee chair Michael Steele and Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal are the image?

    My response was:

    WEll lets see.
    1. The democrats have Howard Dean, Nanny Pelosi and Harry Reid..
    2. Obama was buds with a terrorist, Went to church for 20 years with someone who hates America.
    3. Hillary Clinton is the former first lady whose husband was nearly impeached and who was about 1 step from being impeached for Whitewater.
    4. 1/2 of Obamas cabinet nominations cant pay their taxes.

    That is the face of the Democratic party. But aside from that. People continue to want to lift up the democrats as some sort of saints compared to the Republicans. I find that truly amazing and I guess if enough people say it over and over then pretty soon the masses begin to believe it.

    Its called brainwashing.

    As I stated from the beginning. Your not going to like what I say.

  15. Green – you really do not get it. But that's okay – because you've remained engaged anyway – that says something – I'm not sure what, but it really doesn't matter – that's the value of a blog and its posts' threads – people read them and take what they want, ignore what they want. Freedom of expression and all.

    I have no argument at all with what you wrote. What I wanted was commentary specifically about what I wrote – but you don't seem to want to comment on the GOP or conservatives – you only want to comment on the Dems and people you define as liberals.

    That's your choice – this is, as I keep saying, a blog – but your avoidance is obvious – I've only been trying to get you back to what I wrote about. If, after 64 comments, you still don't want to or for some reason I can't figure out are unable to comment on the GOP's failure and inability to figure out who they are or what they look like (which is what this post was noting), then you know – I think I've tried my darnedest. I can sleep knowing I tried a lot of different angles to get you to speak about the GOP and this problem I perceive that they have. That's all I ask of myself when blogging something like this.

  16. JIll

    You continue to insult me telling me that I dont get it. Fine. I can only surmise that you are offended that I attacked the democrats when you wanted us to attack the Republicans. As for me I attack both parties. You simply have no clue how to deal with someone who finds disdain with both parties and so you result to semi negative personal attacks on me personally by calling into question my intellect.

    Perhaps you dont get it as well. Asking these questions about what does the GOP have to do to become viable again assumes that they are broke………I disagree. I said as much.

    Perhaps the problem with both of us is that we both have an agenda that drives us to the point of not seeing the forest for the trees.

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