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Quote of the Day: Gregg, The GOP And The War On Obama

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The political quote of the day comes from Andrew Sullivan:

This much is now clear. Their clear and open intent is to do all they can, however they can, to sabotage the new administration (and the economy to boot). They want failure. Even now. Even after the last eight years. Even in a recession as steeply dangerous as this one. There are legitimate debates to be had; and then there is the cynicism and surrealism of total political war. We now should have even less doubt about what kind of people they are. And the mountain of partisan vitriol Obama will have to climb every day of the next four or eight years.

Some will quibble with how Sullivan words this, but it is indeed increasingly difficult to make an argument that the Republican party is acting in good faith with the White House and the American people as it continues to play to its base.

Most troubling: the tone for the party was set immediately by talk show Rush Limbaugh, who immediately threw down the gauntlet against cooperation with Obama (opening saying he wanted Obama to “fail” and alter trying to finesse the statement a bit)…and the party elite and base immediately fell into (all too familiar) lock step.

So is what Sullivan is predicting about to happen true? And, even more troubling, is this what the country is in for in the future?

Obama’s choices:

(1) Continue to pursue bipartisanship, a noble goal and it will indeed take a while to change old patterns, just as psychologists will tell you that it’s hard to change patterns in dysfunctional families and abusive relationships.

(2) Continue to pursue bipartisanship but be prepared every step of the way with a readied plan to pull out all stops to use public opinion to shore up a coalition of Democrats, a narrow margin of independents and some Republicans. Keep working to increase clout and use it.

(3) Go back to the George Bush model of relying mostly on the the party’s base.

Number Two would be the wisest course. Has Team Obama gone back and revisited what happened to Bill Clinton after his election when he found himself under steady attack by a GOP resistance? It’s clear that it can no longer be assumed that there will be meaningful cooperation from the GOP with Obama and that a political jiu jitsu move will be used where if he won’t go along with their demands he’ll be accused of not really wanting bipartisanship and being a partisan hack.

Prediction: if the stimulus and other policies help the economy in any way, the GOP will lose a big chunk of support from independent and younger voters. It can make gains in 2010 only if Obama fails — and each day developments suggest that not only are some in the party hoping he does, but some seem to be actively working for it.

But is it a slam dunk that the compromise version of the stimulus plan will pass? Apparently not, due to Ted Kennedy’s absence…

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(FOOTNOTE: I am traveling between now and Sunday and will be posting little until Monday.)

UPDATE:
Read Andrew Malcolm’s take on the day’s events and what comes next for Gregg.

  • Silhouette
    "This much is now clear. Their clear and open intent is to do all they can, however they can, to sabotage the new administration (and the economy to boot). They want failure. Even now..."
    *******

    Is this quote about Al Qaida or republicans?
  • Brittanicus
    BOMBARD WASHINGTON BEFORE STIMULUS IS FINAL!

    Majority Leader Senator Harry Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi have sold out the AMERICAN WORKER. They are trying to kill the E-Verify system that removes illegal aliens from the workforce with a 99.6 success rate. Only anti-sovereignty, pro-illegal immigration groups including the US Chamber of Commerce, La Raza, Mecha along with parasite big businesses who use slave labor.

    Two E-VERIFY amendments that had been accepted by the House Appropriations Committee. But behind closed doors the Senate stripped it without discussion or debate.

    DEADLINE-IS-NOW!

    Voice your anger and frustration at Pelosi and Reid, they should be ashamed that they are ignoring the American worker.

    Contact Pelosi: (202) 224-3542
    Contact Reid: (202) 224-3542

    Washington Switchboard for your Senator or Congressman at (202) 224-3121

    Other honest information at JUDICIALWATCH, NUMBERSUSA, AMERICANPATROL & CAPSWEB.

    COPY & PASTE! PASS THIS ON!
  • RevDave
    Is this really what the Republicans have fallen to? Outside of the beltway, they sound like a bunch of mean, petulant children.
  • D. E.Rodriguez
    Sad
  • CapitalG
    Ummm...have you guys forgotten how President Bush was treated for 8 years?

    Democrats turned their backs on their country, their military, and openly rooted for failure in Iraq. Harry Reid declared 'the war in Iraq is lost'. Obamonkey wanted to cut and run and said all we did was bomb civilians. Murtha declared our soldiers 'murdered in cold blood'. John Kerry said US servicemen got 'stuck in Iraq' because they didn't do well in school.

    When Bush warned in 2003 of Fannie and Freddie's impending failure they ignored his warnings and Barney Frank assurred us there was nothing wrong with Fannie and Freddie. Democrats threatened to filibuster any attempts at oversight. McCain warned them again in 2005. Bush warned them SEVENTEEN TIMES in 2008 alone - and still Democrats did nothing.

    Now all of a sudden you are upset that Republicans are criticizing Obama and resisting the porkulus bill?

    That is freaking HILARIOUS!

    Obama said Bush used the politics of fear and overspent. Now he is using the politics of fear to shove MORE SPENDING down America's throat.

    PRICELESS!
  • Quisp
    How, exactly, is it "pursuing bipartisanship" to lock Republicans out of drafting the massive appropriations bill Obama refers to as "stimulus"? How is it "pursuing bipartisanship" to ignore two alternate stimulus bills and Republican efforts to minimize pork and maximize actual job creation and say that Republicans want to "do nothing" to save the economy, as Obama did in his press conference? (For the record, it was the Congressional Budget office that said doing nothing would be better than enacting hte current bill.) I guess I'm just not seeing the outreach here.
  • Joe - where have you been the last 8 years? Every time the Democrats would try to undercut President Bush and Republicans complained we heard the mantra "dissent is PATRIOTIC" Is dissent no long patriotic now that it is YOUR GUY in office taking the slings and arrows?

    Did it ever occur to you (or Andrew) that there are real and honest concerns about a "stimulus" plan that does not even start spending money for 2 years? I mean how would you have reacted if it had been President McCain earmarking money to one of the Republicans core constituencies (say to the NRA)...wouldn't you be screaming bloody murder too?

    LL
  • Jim_Satterfield
    Apparently Quisp's version of bipartisanship is to give the Republicans whatever they want. The truth is that the Republican's definition of pork in the bill is so broad that most of the job creating projects in the bill would be defined as pork no matter how many people they'd put to work. And the CBO never said that doing nothing would be better than this bill. If you're going to say they did, provide a link to the document.
  • "The truth is that the Republican's definition of pork in the bill is so broad that most of the job creating projects in the bill would be defined as pork no matter how many people they'd put to work."

    I will give you partial points in that the definition of pork IS over broad. However, I pose the same question to you that I just posed to Joe. Say this had been President McCain and he had written in several hundred million for the NRA. Would you be as accepting of that earmark as you are of President Obama's setting aside money for "community organizing groups" like ACORN?

    LL
  • Oh and you still have not answered one legit question that Quisp asked. How is locking the Republicans OUT of the negotiating room "bi-partisan"?

    LL
  • "And the CBO never said that doing nothing would be better than this bill. If you're going to say they did, provide a link to the document."

    Google is your friend....

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04...

    President Obama's economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.

    CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate bills will help in the short term but result in so much government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing.

    You're welcome.....

    LL
  • Dan71
    First, the taunt that "Youdidittous so wedoittoyou nyah nyah nyah!" is not the response of adults, buts of children.

    Second, Joe, I note in your comments policy that racist comments will result in deletion of the comment and possibly being banned. May I suggest that the commenter who used the racist phrase "Obamonkey" has crossed that line?
  • Davebo
    LadyLogician...

    Apparantly Google is your enemy!
  • Dan - Agreed - CapitalG's comment was out of line. Whether it is worthy of deletion is Joe's call (his house and all) but I join you in condemning the remarks are totally over uncalled for.

    LL
  • lightduty
    Andrew Sullivan wrote: "Their clear and open intent is to do all they can, however they can, to sabotage the new administration (and the economy to boot). They want failure. Even now"

    If the GOP is intent on sabatoging Obama, why do they tend to point the finger at Pelosi and Reid? Yes, Rush, Hannity et al. talk smack about Obama. But that's what commentators do. But much of the criticism that's taken place of Obama so far has been very issue-related. Lots of economists think the stimulus plan won't work. Many people fear the changes to our health care system in the stimulus package, and wonder why it wasn't put up as a separate bill. That's not the same as chanting "Bush Lied, People Died", and asking for War Crimes trials for our President. Obama has already blown up some babies in Pakistan, so why not put him in the peaceniks crosshairs now?
  • CrusaderPatriot
    Please! First of all, he is sabotaging himself by heading far to the left immediately. He ran in the center to fool you so called "moderates" into voting for him. His first act, abortions for foreigners paid for by the American taxpayor. His 2nd act, closing Gitmo which everyone knows will lead to the killers eventual release. Now, this PORK bill! It does provide "busy work", temporary jobs that have no future. It doesn't produce anything to sell so we can pay down our debt and it doesn't lead to long term work. It's also a big government grab at our freedom from nationalizing health care to stealth gun control in this legislation. Even the Democrat controlled Congressional Budget Office says this bill is a disaster! The Democrats seek to silence anyone who opposes them! Bi-partisanship to Obama means agree with me or else! Now you expect us to shut up and go away seeing what this neo-marxist is up to after the vial venom the left spewed over the last 8 years? NO WAY! I will fight this administration and the Democrats with everything I have! They haven't stopped trying to silence and destroy us, so we're not going to sit back and take it anymore! CrusaderPatriot.com
  • CapitalG
    I would submit that I was going to call the next Democrat President a monkey regardless of who it was.

    So if I were to decide to NOT call him Obamonkey based simply on the color of his skin then I would be racist.

    Are you forgetting the left calling Powell and Condi 'House Negroes'? Were you calling those folks racist? I doubt it.
  • CapitalG
    Crusader - have you noticed that since Obama dropped the charges on the Cole bombing mastermind he is now being held at GITMO without charges?

    Wasn't the left going nuts over that when Bush did it? Where is the outrage now?

    What a bunch of hypocrites.

    They turn their backs on our country when we are at war - and we're supposed to feel bad about opposing a porkulus bill that Congress won't even have a chance to read before voting on it?

    Oh, this is going to be fun!

    They can hurl insults pretty effectively - but they run away crying when they are the ones who have to answer to the critics.

    Joe and Andy you guys are a joke.
  • Dan71
    Lady Logician, I appreciate your courtesy. Thank you.

    CapitalG, please don't be disingenuous. "Monkey" is a well-known racist epithet for black Americans. Referring to a black man with the epithet of "monkey" is racist; referring to a white person isn't. Also, posting a comment on this site using the term "House Negro" might well be cause for a ban. That's not the issue. The issue is your use of a racist epithet.
  • D. E.Rodriguez
    I hope that this is not what I am reading in some of these comments:

    Those hypocrite, unpatriotic, treehugging Liberals bashed our President for eight solid years.

    So let's do the same to their President, the well-being of our nation be damned.

    If I misread them I apologize

    If that's exactly what they are meant to convey, fine, I'll defend your right to do so
  • CStanley
    D.E., I think it actually reconciles in the opposite direction, so it's more like:
    We know that liberals who bashed Bush didn't actually want the country to fail, they just felt strongly that his policies were wrong; we hope that those who felt that way can also now see that we disagree strongly with the sharp turn to the left that Obama and the Democrats are taking.
  • bigurn
    Sir: I have serious reservations with your comments that Republicans are actively working against the Obama administration. First, and most obvious: Did you complain, ever, over the last eight years?

    But, secondly, when does debate amount to internecine warfare? Is my hesitation about this multi-Trillion-dollar spending make me an enemy of the Obama administration? I would think that asking my governmental representatives to explain their leadership strategy would be the height of patriotism. A responsible person questioning a responsible government is a check-and-balance system, not a fight.

    I have strong reservations about this spending plan. I think it's far too much money, and will go to entitlement plans that will burden the recession, not improve it. I think the government ought to take the time to explain why their taking MY MONEY, and my children and grandchildren's money. I think responsible leaders will do this. I think irresponsible leaders will try to rush this so that it becomes law before its full impact is known. And I think most of the government is behaving irresponsibly. If that puts me athwart the Obama administration, too bad. He works for me, and he should explain himself in detail, with dollars, in easy terms for every American to understand.
  • D. E.Rodriguez
    Good point, C.S.

    I was referring to comments like:

    "Now you expect us to shut up and go away seeing what this neo-marxist is up to after the vial venom the left spewed over the last 8 years? NO WAY! I will fight this administration and the Democrats with everything I have! They haven't stopped trying to silence and destroy us, so we're not going to sit back and take it anymore! "

    But, again, If I misread such comments, I apologize. If not, have at it, it is your right, which I defend, and have defended for twenty years.
  • CStanley
    Yes, I do see now that there is one commenter taking that tone- I guess I tend to tune out vitriolic stuff from both sides.
  • richard_mcenroe
    Where is the 'bipartisanship' in describing a fundamental policy disagreement between political parties as a 'war on Obama?' Was there a 'war on Bush' somebody somehow overlooked.

    If the Great and Powerful Ob is lucky, Republicans won't go after him the way the Democratic party (and as a former Democrat I still get all the mailings and e-mails so I know precisely what I'm talking about) and their pet media and celebrity packs went after Bush, the GOP and conservatives.

    But he doesn't deserve their restraint and nothing in his conduct since taking office has earned it for him.
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