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Polls: McCain Palin Winning Strong Support From Independent And Women Voters

Polls now show that Republican Presidential nominee Sen. John McCain and his Vice Presidential running mate Gov. Sarah Palin are winning the crucial battles for independent and women voters — big-time.

The polls show Democratic Presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama is not just sagging in these areas but politically bleeding — and losing the support of some critically-needed conservative Democrats as well. If this is just part of the McCain bounce, Democrats shouldn’t worry. But it could reflect more profound shifts due to the make up of the GOP ticket, Palin and McCain’s speeches, and the fact that the Republicans remain far more unified than the Democrats — a party that has not totally rounded up Hillary Clinton supporters. And Clinton continues to hold her fire on Palin.

Gallup Reports:

John McCain’s 6 percentage-point bounce in voter support spanning the Republican National Convention is largely explained by political independents shifting to him in fairly big numbers, from 40% pre-convention to 52% post-convention in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.

By contrast, Democrats’ support for McCain rose 5 percentage points over the GOP convention period, from 9% to 14%, while Republicans’ already-high support stayed about the same.

The surge in political independents who favor McCain for president marks the first time since Gallup began tracking voters’ general-election preferences in March that a majority of independents have sided with either of the two major-party candidates. Prior to now, McCain had received no better than 48% of the independent vote and Obama no better than 46%, making the race for the political middle highly competitive.

The independent vote shift is a huge one. Just look at the graph:

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Just as many independent voters now seem to be flocking towards McCain, so are women voters – a politically toxic sign for Obama:

Republican presidential candidate John McCain has gained huge support and now leads Democrat Barack Obama among white women voters since naming Sarah Palin as his running mate, according to a survey published on Tuesday.

The Washington Post/ABC News poll found that much of McCain’s surge in the polls since the Republican National Convention is attributable to the shift in support among white women.

The race for the White House is now a virtual tie, with Obama at 47 percent support of registered voters and McCain at 46 percent, the poll found.

Before the Democratic National Convention in late August, Obama held an 8 percentage point lead among white women voters, 50 percent to 42 percent, but after the Republican convention in early September, McCain was ahead by 12 points among white women, 53 percent to 41 percent, the poll found.

McCain surprised the electorate ahead of the Republican convention by naming Palin, the little-known Alaska governor, as his vice presidential running mate. She received high marks among supporters for her convention address, which included a scathing attack ridiculing Obama’s experience and record.

That’s another huge shift. It has been reported that Obama’s campaign hoped Clinton would help take on Palin but it’s clear that the New York Senator is not going to do it. The New York Times:

In her first campaign outing since the Democratic National Convention, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton urged audiences across central Florida on Monday to oppose the Republican presidential ticket — “no McCain, no Palin” — but otherwise avoided criticizing a new contender for female voters, Gov. Sarah Palin.

The absence of heavy fire directed at Ms. Palin had been expected, given a reluctance by Mrs. Clinton to turn her campaigning into a battle between two women. Yet advisers to Senator Barack Obama said Mrs. Clinton was nonetheless their best surrogate to counter the Republican ticket’s new drive to win over white working women and mothers who supported her in the Democratic primaries.

Ms. Palin has been explicitly courting those women, and national polls taken in the wake of last week’s Republican convention indicate that the McCain-Palin ticket is drawing interest and support from them.

This doesn’t bode well for the Obama campaign.

They have to pray for some kind of McCain campaign snafu, hope that the polls only reflect a passing independent-voter/women-voter consideration — or retool the campaign ASAP. Obama bigwigs have been (seemingly) confidently telling reporters that what matters is the ground came and they’re confident in swing states — but these polling numbers reflecting defecting women voters, a big chunk of independent voters moving towards McCain and Democratic disunity aren’t the ingredients that usually spell v-i-c-t-o-r-y.

And these polls? Each side pooh-poohs polls that don’t make it look good (usually the tactic is to talk about how the methodology is bad) and then touts the ones that make them look ahead (the methodology is terrific when it a campaign ahead).

But the bottom line is now this: in four of five national polls released over the past 24 hours McCain has pulled ahead of Obama. A bounce? Or a trend?

  • I suspect a lot of this is the result of the novelty of Sarah Palin much of which will wear off in the next two months.
  • 52novels
    Nate at 538.com’s take on the women voter swing:



    “From that Washington Post poll: there was a 20-point swing toward John McCain among white women. Is this interesting and relevant? It might be interesting, but I don’t know that it’s terrifically relevant, at least as far as the electoral math goes. If McCain gained 20 points among white women in a poll where he gained 5 points among registered voters overall, that means McCain made hardly any gains with other groups (e.g. men, and nonwhite women) — in fact, he would have had to backtrack slightly with these groups to get the math to work out right. The gender gap is not very interesting to study from the standpoint of the electoral map, since sex ratios are nearly identical in each state (the West is slightly more male, but we’re talking about something that might have an impact at the tenth-of-a-point level). If the white/nonwhite gap has increased, on the other hand, that could potentially be interesting. One thing I’d like to get a sense of is how Sarah Palin plays among Hispanics.”

  • FWIW -- Nobody polled me (they never do), but if they had, I'd probably be part of this statistic somewhere.

    I'm not yet in the McCain camp, but I'm no longer in the Obama camp either. I'm back on the fence just at the moment.
  • jwest
    Right after Palin’s speech at the convention, some on this site were touting the negative reaction to her by a Detroit Free Press focus group.

    I took the five minutes to Google the names on the focus group list at that time and came up with the same information presented in this article.

    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/08/editor-...
  • elrod
    Hmm, let's see what happens in about three days when the novelty wears off and women and Independents see through the sham.
  • superdestroyer
    maybe white women remembered that black politicians have never done anything for them and that black culture is probably the most sexist in the U.S.

    Maybe if Senator Obama had never had his Sister Souljah moment, the bounced would not have happpened but since David Axelrod is running a 50% plus one campaign in order to hold on to as much of the Democratic party coalition as possible, the bounced is to be expected.
  • casualobserver
    "Hmm, let's see what happens in about three days when the novelty wears off and women and Independents see through the sham."

    You must have learned this trick of continually moving the goal posts from George Bush, I suspect!

    Thanks once again for bringing some facts to ponder, Joe.

    Caution dictates erring on the side of "bounce" for the time being. The only thing that allows for true partisan gloating is that, bounce or otherwise, the screaming from the lefties these past 5 days, the past six months, hell, the past three years might as well been done directly into a metal pail for all the impact it has had on the independent voter........the only audience of import remaining.
  • I'm disappointed, Elrod, that you'd assume independents (and/or women) would only be evaluating the current state of the race through some haze of novelty or rhetoric. As if we haven't been weighing the candidates for weeks and months...?

    And SD -- you've got to be kidding. White women remember that black politicians have never done anything for them???? Ludicrous! Black politicians are only VERY rarely in a position to do anything for anyone.
  • DLS
    Elrod, your imagination (and antagonism) are running out of control again...you aren't panicking yet, are you? There are weeks to go!

    Yes, wait and see over at least another week what the reaction is like. Then there's all kinds of fun and games we'll see between now and the debates, and then the debates, of course. And in addition to the novelty wearing off (it has with Obama and he still has support, and Palin has broad appeal, so don't rush to write her off), don't forget the environment Palin faces versus the other side is hardly neutral; the media up to the GOP convention have been Obama's fifth column (with one or two "journalists" of note being punished recently for being the equivalent of Molotov cocktail throwers on his behalf). I just hope the media realizes that if they get truly ugly in their uneven treatment of the two campaigns and are vicious toward Palin, they risk a public backlash in November.
  • superdestroyer
    Poliman,

    Maybe you can poitn to an issue that is promoted by the CBC that would benefit instead of harm blue collar and middle class whites. I doubt that bussing, reparations, minority set asides, or depolicing are appealing to middle class whites.
  • Marlowecan
    Polimom...why has your view shifted?

    Your blog does not fully explain this. Is it because you feel McCain is acknowledging women more by his choice of Palin? (This is not a criticism. I am actually curious.)

    In defence of Elrod, I think he is making a valid point about public opinion. Novelty is often a factor in measuring popularity. After all, the people polled probably had very little knowledge of Palin's views.

    Indeed, I doubt Elrod or anyone here at TMV could clearly define Palin's views on the debt crisis, Israel/Palestine, the Georgia crisis, what to do in Afghanistan etc.

    We know amazingly little about her. Given this, is not "novelty" a valid point in explaining aspects of the McCain ticket bounce?
  • Supordestrayer --

    Perhaps you'd be able instead to point to a place where Obama has promoted any of those ideas, since it was your suggestion that these are what have awakened white women as regards black politicians.
  • Marlowecan -- give me a few minutes and I'll bring up a post about it.
  • superdestroyer
    Poliman,

    Do you really think that white married women want an end to racial profiling (read depolicing), want aggressive enforcement of civil rights laws (read more affirmative action, look at the recent Louisville and Seattle busing cases that were broadly supported by Democrats.
  • Supardestrayer -- Speaking for myself only... as a white married woman, I can tell you with absolute confidence that those issues don't even make the top 10 in the current list of problematic issues.
  • superdestroyer
    Polimon,

    In a close race it is important at the margin. Senator Obama has refused to throw the CBC under the bus like he did to his grandmother. The message is very clear that he will go along with their continued sexism.
  • ConcernedModerate
    superdestroyer:

    What do you call Hannity and O'Reilly? I stopped watching Fox News because it has become nothing but right-wing propaganda. It would be nice to have one major network that did not spin or sensationalize the news.
  • ConcernedModerate
    superdestroyer:

    You are using right-wing talking points. Are you sure that you are a moderate?
  • LuxEtVeritas
    I think it will be interesting to see how the polls are after the debates. But you don't have to wait for that. Just go here to see what a Mccain Palin ticket would lead to...
    http://mccainpalinworld.com/
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