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On Taking Bets On How Long Palin Will Last On GOP Ticket As McCain Vice President Pick

A lively progressive blog is taking bets on how long GOP Vice Presidential candidate to be Gov. Sarah Palin lasts on the GOP ticket. Details HERE.

UPDATE: More predictions are being taken here.

My view? The economy is bad so this isn’t the time to literally throw money away. In fact, for all of the consternation among Democrats and some independent voters about her lack of experience, Palin makes sense for John McCain if you look at some of his other broader goals, as Dick Polman points out.

In his most recent post he writes about Tropical Storm Sarah and how among other things, she was not honest about her role in the “bridge to nowhere,” how she has lawyered up in her home state due to abuse of power allegations and “the probe will be ongoing through the autumn campaign, providing the McCain campaign with all kinds of unwanted distractions. Conveniently, the lawyer’s stalling tactics will probably result in a postponement of the probe’s findings until after the election. That timing issue will also be part of the ongoing coverage.”

Earlier, in another post, he pointed out some ways in which Palin could help McCain and a key McCain goal: to differentiate himself from Bush-Rove and recapture his 2000 “maverick” aura. If you put the breaking controversies and scandals aside, a lot of this appointment makes more sense if you consider these factors:

By picking a young female governor and mother of five as his running mate, he is signaling his intention to shake things up and scrap the traditional GOP paradigm. Indeed, that is his prime task this week at his national convention, as he seeks to position his candidacy for the autumn presidential race. He rightly decided that he needed to effectuate a marketing overhaul, if only because the Bush-Cheney team has damaged the party “brand” so badly.

The choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin provides a window into McCain’s election strategy. Mindful that fewer votes describe themselves as Republicans than at any other time in recent years – Gallup reports that the self-identified Democrats now hold a 14-point advantage, whereas the parties were at parity only four years ago – McCain knows he’s toast unless he can swing the independents. And he can’t do that unless he reclaims his former image as a “maverick” reformer.

As others have noted, McCain reportedly enjoys playing craps and this is a high stakes roll of the dice:

Palin is designed to be Exhibit A….She reinforces McCain’s longstanding message about wasteful government spending. And by dint of her gender, she helps McCain make the case that Democrats this year do not have the monopoly on “change,” that the Republicans are arguably just as keen to practice diversity in the 21st century.

But McCain is also well aware that he can’t win without also galvanizing the conservative base. He knows that any moves to the center must be counterbalanced by further fealty to the Republican right. He may be the party nominee, but he is stil viewed with suspicion by many of the conservatives who still dominate the party.

The fact is, McCain prevailed in the primaries only because conservatives never coalesced around an opponent. McCain nailed down the nomination in three contests (New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida) without ever winning a majority or plurality of self-described conservatives. He was basically saved by moderates, independents and, in Florida, Latinos.

This means that the conservatives who still control the GOP apparatus are not beholden to the GOP nominee. This sets up an interesting tension. While McCain this week will undoubtedly seek to signal a new era for the party, the conservatives are busy writing an old-style party platform that contradicts McCain’s stated concerns about global warming, and undercuts his belief in the need for path-to-citizenship immigration reform.

Consider: McCain may not get all the independent votes he wants, but in one fell swoop he has re-energized the GOP base. This is the appointment they dreamed of and — as is customary with partisans of both parties — they are now linked-up to play defense lawyer for any attacks that come her way. Polman sees her as having an important intra-party role:

Hence Palin’s other important role, as an ambassador to the base. As governor she has signed tax cuts and shaped up the state budget (thereby reassuring the economic conservatives); she is a lifelong NRA member and an abortion opponent who decided to give birth to her fifth child after she received a diagnosis of Down Syndrome (thereby reassuring the social conservatives).

The Palin choice also apparently reflects McCain’s belief that the GOP will benefit from a fresh face, that humanizing the party can help repair the wreckage of the past eight years. She’ll be a great story at the convention – former basketball player, former beauty queen – if only because the press is drawn to novelty, and she can work the women voters in swing states by sharing a personal saga – the ultimate working mom – that no previous Republican running mate could ever muster. McCain wanted to create some buzz, and he has succeeded.

He then goes into the negatives…which are still swirling around as this post is being written. There’s a downside for McCain and an upside. Right now there are signs more than ever that Republicans are rallying to defend Palin against the downsides — even though she is the kind of nominee whose resume would cause Rush, Sean, Bill and countless Republican broadcast, old media and new media analysts to rage against if she had been a Democrat appointed by Obama for his Veepship. Consistency can interfere with winning.

UPDATE: My DD’s Jerome Armstrong also sees Palin’s pluses for McCain and warns Democrats to avoid wishful thinking:

There were some posters that questioned why I called Palin a “gamechanger” candidate. First off, as I said, she has to pass the ‘media test’ or otherwise, she’ll have changed the game in a negative manner for the GE. But as for how she’s a potential positive gamechanger for McCain, we only need to review the numbers on whats the matter with Republicans this year.

McCain’s “very favorable” ratings have been stuck all year. They reflect a Republican base that is in the dumps. On the otherhand, Palin is of and from the Republican base, and if she passes the media gauntlet, she’ll succeed in changing this race for McCain….

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She can shore up the GOP’s cracking coalition and Democrat’s criticism of her is only lowering expectations:

My guess is that all the hype and research around Palin this week is all serving the purpose of making her stage on Wednesday even bigger. And from the looks of it on Saturday, she’ll knock it out of the park for Republicans. Not for you and I, that’s not what the aim here it– its Republican voters of the past 8 years that are now saying they are Independent, but really lean Republican when they vote. In the end, the Palin pick is a bet that Barack Obama has a higher threshold to cross for their vote than does what Sarah Palin adds to John McCain.

Then there’s the talk about Palin being the Eagleton of Republicans. This is wishful thinking, and denial of whats going on– all wrapped up into one big long Labor Day political junkie echo chamber that morphed into exactly the sort of hubris which Joe Trippi warns.

  • superdestroyer
    The selection of Palin demonstrates that either McCain will not listen to his staff and advisors or that his staff are stupid incompetents. Either way, it demonstrates that McCain is not fit to be president.
  • Kathryn
    I think this might be the straw that breaks the camel's back. The so-con and neocon's have been sniping back and forth for some time now. I can't help but think that all of socon's are still smarting at the "elitist" neocon's veto of Harriet Meirs.

    I think McCain was really hoping the neocon's would have his back if he went with Lieberman or Ridge. They said they wouldn't so he said "defend this" and dumped Palin on them. They now have to decide, do they go with the giving the Jerry Springer wing of the party the VP job or face the incredible revolt from that wing. Not a choice I would like to have to make. It is fun watching Brooks and Krauthammer squirm.
  • AustinRoth
    SD - actually, to an extent he did listen. His closest advisers at the last minute talked him out of going with his first choice, Lieberman, leading to this fiasco.
  • jwest
    I thought is was just fear emanating from the left, but it is so much more.

    It’s outrage. It’s a feeling that this is unfair. The republicans are cheating right out in the open and this cannot stand.

    Soccer moms, single mothers, blue collar workers – HEY! These are our voters! Keep your grubby paws off!

    The left was all set to run a historic campaign against two rich white guys, but then this damn McCain picks Palin. Isn’t that against the rules?

    If the left didn’t feel the presidency slipping away, Palin’s nomination wouldn’t mean anything. They feel it in the pit of their stomachs, all hope is gone.
  • aba23
    The GOP is facing a moment of truth (late in coming IMO) and it ain't pretty. The rep coalition is a grafted monstrosity that makes the Dems' left-wing-liberal-centrist spectrum look like domestic bliss.
  • Ricorun
    jwest: The left was all set to run a historic campaign against two rich white guys, but then this damn McCain picks Palin. Isn’t that against the rules?

    Actually, I think there's something to be said for the notion that the Dems were caught flat footed. The initial reaction was more... "she's not qualified!" rather than, "well, it looks like McCain took the experience argument off the table." And as far as I could tell, it took a day or two before the blogs started to realize that the Palin pick said more about McCain's recklessness than anything about Palin. That question started playing in my head almost immediately, and well before I read it or heard it anywhere else.

    But I think now, as more information comes out, the Dems are keying on another meme, and one that very well may have longer legs: she's not being honest. She wasn't honest about her support for the "bridge to nowhere", she hasn't been totally honest about her ties to Uncle Ted (without who's support she probably would have lost the gubernatorial election). She hasn't been very honest about cutting taxes -- yes, she cut some but raised others.

    So you can try to spin it by saying the Dems are just whining, or fearful, or whatever, about losing demographics they thought were safe. And frankly, there may be some truth to it. But it's also clear there's much more involved.
  • GeorgeSorwell
    Palin is popular with people who are kind of iffy about McCain. If she quits the ticket they'll be very angry.

    I don't think she's going anywhere.
  • superdestroyer
    A.R.

    Lieberman would have caused McCain to lose in a rout. A large portion of the Repubican Party would have walked away from the campaign and the down ticket problems would have handed the Democrats more than 60 seats in the Senate.

    McCain is going to lose badly with Palin but would have lost worse with Lieberman.
  • Leonidas
    I'd give her the same odds as I give Obama for finishing as the Democratic nominee for president,.

    Progressives being silly, what else is NOT new.
  • Amanda
    McCain had other options if the goal was to rebrand the GOP and bring in a more youthful crop of Republicans (both politicians and voters). He could have gone with Bobby Jindal - he's got a cooler story than Palin and as much, if not more, applicable experience than she does. Linda Lingle (governor of Hawaii) has had a truly impressive career and she's only 55. Or he could have picked someone really out of left field like Felix Perez Camacho, the governor of Guam. That would have made for a really interesting ticket. John Thune, while still a white guy, is the same age as Obama and has a history of defeating popular Democrats (Senator Daschle in particular). He could also help McCain shore up the waning Republican support in some of the mountain states. Basically, there were a bunch of potential running mates out there who could have helped McCain get his old "maverick" label back, but he went with the most conservative person he could find. The only thing new and different about Palin compared the usual Republican running mate is the existence of her vagina. Aside from that, she's just more of the same right wing, social conservative, Bush-era politics.
  • kritt11
    Palin was McCain's desperation pick, because all of the candidates on his short list had 3 strikes against them. He couldn't pick Giuliani because he's pro-choice, Romney because he's a Mormon and because there was too much vicious sniping from the primaries in news vaults all over the country, Jeb Bush-- no explanation necessary, Lieberman- because GOP bigwigs would have revolted, Ron Paul because their foreign policy goals clashed, Schwarzenegger because he's not a naturalized citizen, Condi because she would bring up the Bush foreign policy fiascos, etc etc.

    So he picked an obscure, relatively inexperienced newbie who is pro life and who has moose heads decorating her living room (which appeases the second amendment nuts). He wanted to cut off Obama's momentum before it picked up a full head of steam, so he knew he had to announce on Friday. It was a rush job and his pick was very obviously not fully investigated by his advance team.

    Doesn't say much for his much vaunted experience and mature judgment.
  • BBQ
    Well at Amanda is open about being sexist. Which doesn't surprise me since woman can be more vicious to each other than men can. While true Palin was picked because she is a woman and conservative that wasn't the only reason. Sure you can debate how much of a reformer she is but that was the other big reason. Jindal and a lot of others were already off the table.

    But do keep on underestimating her and bringing up lack of experience. I am glad I get to hear from Obama about how much his campaign helped his executive experience compared to a governor of a state (actually he used her mayor experience as comparison). The more this becomes Obama vs Palin (the number 2 choice) the worse this is for Obama. The better argument is McCain's judgement like kritt said. Which if she handles herself well and the media can't dig more than they have than she could do alright.
  • aba23
    jwest,

    It's an insult to every American is what it is. She simply is not prepared.

    And if the Republicans want (1) soccer moms, they can continue lying to them about their security or whatever but they should consider doing something about healthcare beyond hoping that the exalted market will work against itself to provide affordable coverage to everyone; (2) single mothers, they could stop the rampant demonization; and (3) blue collar workers, they need to continue to convince them that supply-side economics will trickle down to them . . . eventually. Any day now.
  • elrod
    The defenses of Palin are laughable. This selection completely undercuts McCain's whole message up to this point. If you accept that BOTH Obama and Palin are inexperienced, then the issue is a wash. McCain needs a new issue at that point. And it looks like he IS getting rid of the experience argument in favor of some "reformer" line.

    The problem there, however, is that Palin is not much of a reformer at all. Most of her reform credentials are the acts of Alaska' Democrats (Ethan Berkowitz, a Democrat, wrote the ethics bill). Palin begged for earmarks and lied about it. She supported the Bridge to Nowhere before she opposed it. And she's under investigation for abusing state power to enact a vendetta against her ex-brother-in-law (a pattern of behavior that she exhibited as Mayor when she fired all the city officials for "disloyalty.")

    Experience off the table.
    Reform cred in shambles.
    That leaves: right wing ideological extremism . She is a darling of the far right - both the libertarian nuts and the Christianists.

    I don't see McCain winning on that. Not in 2008.
  • jwest
    Elrod,

    Do you really believe that those easily explained items in her past will impact the voters more than a candidate who:

    • Is best friends with an unrepentant terrorist?
    • Bought his house with the help of a convicted felon?
    • Worshiped at the knee (for 20 years) of a blackcentric racist who hates America?
    • Let’s his brother live in squalor on $1 a month?

    Once the truth gets out about Obama, I don’t think anyone will feel uneasy about Palin.

    (Plus, we have videotape of our favorite spirtual leader. You got some of that?)
  • kritt11
    Where is your evidence that he's best friends with a terrorist?
  • jwest
    Where’s your evidence that Palin has done any of the things your side is accusing her of?

    Hey, if you want to play the game, let’s do it.
  • Rambie
    Of course the partisans would defend the pick no matter who it was. What is really funny is to watch the so-called "conservative moderates" twist themselves into a logical pretzel trying to defend Palin using -as a defense- the same things they attacked Obama with.
  • jwest
    What is really funny is watching so-called “liberal moderates” bend over in contortions trying to defend ad hominem attacks on any woman who dares to run for office who isn’t a democrat.

    Which is basically the same type of attacks made against blacks who run as republicans.
  • BBQ
    Didn't anyone tell you jwest? Only rich white guys are GOP material. If the Dems could only convince the bitter,small town, hung up on religion voters than the world will be perfect again. Infact I imagine Obama will be giving everyone ponies once he is in office.
  • What is really funny is watching so-called “liberal moderates” bend over in contortions trying to defend ad hominem attacks on any woman who dares to run for office who isn’t a democrat.

    jwest, I sympathize. All of this personal stuff feels a little dirty. It'd be nice to critique Palin's vision for American domestic and foreign policy.

    Too bad she has none.

    __________
    Edit: I just found her Iraq policy on Huffington Post...
    "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

    Hmmm...
  • Chris. That's priceless. Heartbeat away from the presidency. Oh my. "God's will has to be done in getting that pipeline built." Pretty presumptuous stuff. She does have a cute giggle though.
  • DLS
    "It’s outrage."

    The Left expects to own blacks and women. No deviation from the PC-Dem gospel allowed!

    Plus this year it's not only the Clinton voters, but the Obama voters now more than ever, who believe the White House is expected to be given to them, that they have it as their entitlement or "right" (or "holy right" if they wish to quote their Palestinian right-of-return brethren).
  • DLS
    "Only rich white guys are GOP material. If the Dems could only convince the bitter,small town, hung up on religion voters than the world will be perfect again."

    They need to stop hating these voters and buy their votes with entitlements, too.
  • DLS
    Libs and Dems -- so far, the GOP convention has become palpably livelier, as have McCain's prospects. Please practice moderation (pun intended on this site) on the viciousness, and in the case of betting on "another Miers," don't count your vultures before they've hatched, taken flight, and then actually descended.
  • DLS,
    You sound irritable. Take a break. I know it's hard work spinning for Gov. Palin.
  • Leonidas
    Palin at the number 2 spot for the GOP has more experience than Obama at the #1 spot on the demoicratric ticket, who needs to spin anything given that fact.
  • AustinRoth
    Palin vs Obama as to who has more experience seems reminiscent of the tales of Papal Conclaves to determine how many Angels could dance on the head of a pin.
  • DLS
    I've not been spinning anything, obviously.

    Comparing the experience of Palin vs. Obama is purposeful insofar as it exposes the nature of those making the charges of inexperience against Palin as well as the nature of the charges themselves as they apply to all the candidates.
  • robmgil
    I think it is incredibly condescending to think that women will vote for hokey (not hockey) Mom just because she is a woman. I would be insulted by McCain's assumption that female supporters of Hillary would suddenly abandon their progressive views to simply advance feminism in such a comparatively minuscule way.
  • Manchester2
    These comments about Gov. Palin are premature. Let's see how she does in her Wednesday night speech at the Republican Convention. I suspect many on this board will change their tune.
  • robmgil
    Are you saying, Manchester, that one speech from Hokey Mom will make us forget about her ZERO foreign policy experience? You must have been on McCain's vetting committee. Naivete is bliss!
  • reanna
    Palin:
    She has next to no experience in government. When ask about national security back ground or knowledge regarding foreign affairs the best Ms. McCain could come up with was “she lives right by Russia.” She has only traveled outside the country twice in her life. She belonged (as did her husband “Mr. first Dude”) to a 3rd party which among other things supports allowing Alaska to secede from the United States and feels the only thing wrong with the John Birch Society was it was to liberal! She tried to have a local Librarian fired for not banning books. Used her political office to try to have fired and smear a state trooper who is in a custody battle with her sister. Is being investigated for this and is worried enough about the outcome to have recently “lawyered up.” Currently has pretty messy family issues, recently gave birth to a son with Downs Syndrome and has a 17 year old daughter who is pregnant. Ironically she has fought sex education in the schools and availability of contraception for minors. Believes that for 9 months a woman has no right to control what is happening to her own body and is basically nothing more than a baby container. She does not believe in a women’s right to choose to end a pregnancy, even if she has been raped. Does not believe human pollution has anything to do with global warming (even Bush has had to back down on this one). Is so in bed with big oil she is willing to watch as the polar bear and beluga whales become extinct, rather than slow the possibility of drilling. She would open up one of the last great wilderness on earth to exploitation by oil interests. Laughs when hearing a fellow Republican woman being called a bitch in public (she and the woman had disagreed on several issues) I guess this does make her on par with McCain who thinks it is alright to call your wife a cunt in public. Has an undergraduate degree in Journalism for a small obscure university. She has been repeatedly described as stubborn with a vicious streak – even by family and friends. (nick name Sarah Barracuda) Did fund raising and accepted money from the same sources as Sen. Ted Stevens. Pushed for the “bridge to no where – the flipped when convenient to do so. She has been named Sen. John McCain’s VP selection for the Republican ticket. Sen. McCain is 72 years old and has reoccurring cancer as part of his health history. One can not help but question Mr. McCain’s judgment regarding her selection.
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