Fox Panel’s Critique of Hillary’s Speech Revisited

She was frequently wooden, like Al Gore. She was poor on style as well as mediocre at best on substance. This was not a passionate, moving, rallying, successful speech.

And there's no need to bash Fox in typical liberal style on this site as compensation.

Besides, many of us aren't watching Fox but CNN instead or (in my case) PBS or C-SPAN, which is preoccupied with showing what's on stage rather than televising the commentators and their excessive and questionable remarks.

And there's no need to bash Fox in typical liberal style on this site as compensation.

It's necessary as long as a sizable portion of the population takes them seriously.

I watched on PBS and thought she gave a great speech. There are some who were going to dog her no matter what she said or how she said it. I actually had tears when she talked about the uninsured single mom because I've lived it. So I consider that to be moving.

DLS is just angry because Hillary proved his prediction about "Vicious Dems" to be wrong.. He wanted her to go for McCain's throat so he could be writing today about how nasty Democrats are... Get over it.

Imagine whatever silliness you want, Steve. [sigh]

It's the lefty callers-in to lefty talk radio and their peers elsewhere in the USA who are most upset about the lack of vigor at attacking the Republicans (and overly sensitive toward criticism of feel-good matter rather than advocating Democratic policy goals on current issues) and who are the most disappointed with the convention so far. (The disappointment extends to those who even wanted attacks on opening night, like James Carville.)

DLS said: "Imagine whatever silliness you want, Steve. [sigh]"

Let me make sure I get what you're saying here DLS.

Are you saying that you didn't predict "Vicious Dems" or that you're angry?

If it's the first, you're wrong... and here's what you said.

DLS 22 hours ago

That is, of course, distorted, to say the least. Oh, well. I look forward to the Dems being as vicious as they dare be tonight -- full attack mode -- even if they risk blowback...

If it's your 'anger management' problem you disagree with me on...

Let me suggest you 'mouse over' your screen name and take a look at your Disqus profile.

no. Kristol didn't hear it because "Madrassa Madrassa Madrassa" has been running through that equivocating moron's head.

The lack of vigor attacking the Republicans out of the gate, and the expectations thereof speaks volumes of the mob mentality that wants an equivalent of a pugilist match and is hungry for blood. Our rhetoric over politics is war-minded, the language, the stances, the very discourse. That it's accepted as status quo means that politics will never evolve to a level of statesmanship and discourse that will transcend schoolyard rumbles.
That's my hope that it will transcend, but with the retrograde treatment of Democracy in this Republic, I'm not holding my breath.

"If it's your 'anger management' problem you disagree with me on... 'mouse over' your screen name and check out your Disqus profile."


pwned.

DLS said, "And there's no need to bash Fox in typical liberal style on this site as compensation."

And he has a point... It will be interesting to see our (the usual TMV folks) comments on the GOP convention next week....

I wasn't really aware of Fox News or its slant--I have always watched and enjoyed our local Fox affiliate's local news coverage. However, I distinctly remember one night in March 2003, catching probably Shawn Hannity on Fox News right after the initial invasion of Iraq. Shawn, or whoever it was, was elated about the invasion and yelling, "You're next Syria! You're next!" I have never seen another person so elated about the obvious death of other human beings and thought it was entirely inappropriate for any "journalist" to blithely threaten another country on television. Any network that would allow that kind of display is not professional nor objective with regard to journalism. It was disgraceful and literally sickening. War is necessary at times, but excited celebration of it has no place in journalism. It's a little alarming to me that no one else seemed bothered by this behavior. I don't expect professionalism or objective journalism from Fox based on this one incident because it was so extreme and disturbing.

"And he has a point... It will be interesting to see our (the usual TMV folks) comments on the GOP convention next week...."

That's if there's anything to remark about, and aside from any laughing at its being the combination of a funeral (because the GOP is on the defensive and McCain is weak) and the Dole-ish snoozer it's likely to be. Any funnies will likely come from one or more kind of dysfunctionality.

As to the fools who cannot comprehend what else I've written, I'm looking forward to what the lefties elsewhere (and at times, here) have wanted, some serious GOP- and McCain- and Bush-bashing that is overdue at this convention, even at the risk of spawning controversy from the typical nature of the worst critics and criticisms hurled at conservatives by their most antagonistic opponents. Schweitzer was the only one who has rallied people so far. Where's the rest of the rally-spawning stuff?

Stockster: If you can, tune in to lefty radio because the talk show hosts are better commenters than the mainstream libs and they often have more interesting guests. Mornings as well as evenings. Hoffa (Teamsters) had much worthwhile to say. (Too bad he wasn't invited to make his points in a more creative and forceful way on the stage in Denver rather than as a guest attending the convention only.)

Learn to read as well as to behave. [scowl] And the attacks on the GOP in the Dem convention need to be more forceful (they would easily be more intelligent) than those directed here at me.

8:00 PM here, the third tier is due to start speaking -- time to Move On.

"And there's no need to bash Fox in typical liberal style on this site as compensation."


You like to throw that word around a lot DLS, do yo even know what it means? Or did you pick it up from the attention whores like Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh,Coulter or Malkin?
( yes Olbermann is an attention whore, as is Rhodes- the lot of them are- I only point out the most egregious sycophants who shoot their mouths off on a daily basis.) And can you really trust the word of some clown who makes 100 million a year to speak for "the common people"-I can't. Entertainment, maybe. Political wisdom, not so much- how many of them hold degrees in journalism and public policy?

I'll bash any network that kowtows to poor journalism, hearsay, jingoistic rhetoric and zero fact checking.