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Republicans Seek To Fan Clinton Supporters Obama Resentments

A key target of the GOP in the soon-to-be-official Presidential race between Democratic Sen. Barack Obama and Republican Sen. John McCain: Clinton voters, who now being openly wooed in a McCain ad that seeks to stir up resentments at the same time when a top conservative columnist is taking the same approach.

These developments come on the heels of several news reports — including one after yesterday’s announcement that Sen. Joe Biden is Obama’s choice for running mate in a process that didn’t include vetting Clinton — indicating resentment and outright anger towards Obama among Clinton supporters who show increasing signs of either not supporting the ticket or voting for McCain.

That’s a good chunk of voters dangling in front of McCain and the Republicans are moving swiftly to try and grab them.

Weekly Standard bigwig and New York Times columnist William Kristol has suddenly become a Clinton admirer and has some advice for Clinton supporters at the convention:

So Hillary Clinton gets about 18 million votes in 2008, and isn’t even considered for–she apparently isn’t even given the courtesy of being consulted–the vice presidential pick. Joe Biden manages to persuade a few thousand (if that) Iowans to support him. And Barack Obama selects Biden? Normally, if the VP pick came from that year’s presidential field, it’s the runner-up (Kerry-Edwards in 2004, Reagan-Bush in 1980, Stevenson-Kefauver in 1956). (Lyndon Johnson in 1960 hadn’t entered the primaries.) And Biden wasn’t even the third most successful candidate this year (hi, John Edwards!), or fourth (Bill Richardson, I suppose), or fifth (Dennis Kucinich!).

What’s more, Biden and Hillary have basically comparable foreign policy “experience” (such as it is in either case). Nor is Biden clearly more knowledgeable in foreign affairs than Hillary. And they have pretty similar foreign policy views.

His advice?

A modest suggestion to my justifiably outraged Democratic friends: Hillary’s name should be placed in nomination not for the presidency (Obama won that more or less fair and square)–but for the vice presidency. It would be an interesting roll call vote.

Another “I-feel-your-political-pain” sign can be seen in the up-front appeal by McCain to get Clinton voters by telling them that Obama dissed their candidate. The details from The L.A. Time’s Top of the Ticket blog:

This new Sunday ad is titled “Passed Over.” Aimed clearly at the 18 million disappointed Democrats who voted for her during the long primary season, the ad asks why she was passed over for the No. 2 spot?

It shows Clinton and says:

“She won millions of votes.

“But isn’t on his ticket.

“Why?

“For speaking the truth.

“On his plans:

HILLARY CLINTON: “You never hear the specifics.”

ANNCR: “On the Rezko scandal:

HILLARY CLINTON: “We still don’t have a lot of answers about Senator Obama.”

ANNCR: “On his attacks:

HILLARY CLINTON: “Senator Obama’s campaign has become increasingly negative.”

ANNCR: “The truth hurt.

“And Obama didn’t like it.

JOHN MCCAIN: “I’m John McCain and I approved this message.”

The Wall Street Journal’s Amy Chozick notes:

The ad is the latest sign that the presidential contest has grown increasingly personal. It’s also proof that the some times bitter battle between the two Democratic senators has provided useful fodder to the Republican opposition.

Both Obama and McCain are fighting to win over the 18 million voters who chose Clinton during the primaries.

Recent polls show her base of mostly white working-class women has not rallied behind the Illinois senator. McCain frequently praises the former first lady in an effort to woo her still undecided supporters.

“Passed Over” could strike a chord since many Clinton fans are upset that she was not seriously considered as Obama’s running mate. While most people considered the “dream ticket” a long shot, the Obama-Biden ticket still struck a chord among supporters and delegates who had held out hope that Clinton would be chosen.

“[Hillary Clinton] has said repeatedly that Barack Obama and she share a commitment to changing the direction of the country, getting us out of Iraq, and expanding access to health care,” says Clinton spokeswoman Kathleen Strand. “It’s interesting how those remarks didn’t make it into his ad.”

The depth of the resentment among some Clinton voters can be seen in one fact. Whoever would have thought during the early primaries that Clinton supporters who often pointed for the need to get a Democrat in the White House to ensure that the next Supreme Court nominee won’t be a conservative who can tip the court to undo Roe Vs Wade would be ready to vote for a Republican supported by Sean Hannity?

It underscores the fact that the nature of the anger isn’t over political agendas, but personal and that some of the votes cast in November will be political payback grudge votes.

Which is exactly what Kristol and the McCain ads are masterfully trying to fan, tap — and garner.

  • Holly_in_Cincinnati
    1) It's not just Clinton supporters who are upset. Got an email from a professor friend, a lifelong Democrat, who is appalled that Hillary Clinton was not vetted and he doesn't even like her.

    2) Whoever would have thought during the early primaries that the Democratic Party would choose to nominate its worst candidate since Jimmy Carter in 1980?
  • RememberNovember
    2) totally disagree and the "worst" is your unvetted opinion. Hillary is a divider, if anything. I'm not pleased she was given short shrift but the whiners need to man and woman up and put their big pants on if they want to see change in Washington, otherwise they can vote for John McMansions. They will only punish themselves.
  • kritt11
    Its amazing that so many Clinton supporters are willing to forget what Clinton stands for and cross party lines out of pique.Excited at the prospect of a great female candidate whose views I agreed with, I voted for Clinton as well in the primaries, and was dismayed to see her treatment by the media-- who seemed to worship Obama and McCain-- but that won't turn me into a Republican!

    Obama and Clinton have had nearly identical voting records in the Senate. The issues in this very important election should be more important than deciding to act collectively like a group of two-year olds who didn't get their way.
  • GeorgeSorwell
    The obvious answer: McCain must pick Hillary as his VP.

    But...has he even vetted her????
  • Jim_Satterfield
    Holly, how insane is it for someone who supported Hillary to decide to vote for someone who's been voting with Bush 95% of the time? What principles are involved in voting for someone who wants to nominate people for the Supreme Court who are like Thomas, Alito and Scalia? Where is the rational thought involved in deciding that your vote should move from someone who is pro-choice to someone who believes that human life begins at conception and wants our laws to reflect this? No, the PUMAs are not acting out of principles but bitterness and hatred.
  • Holly_in_Cincinnati
    Pique Shmique!

    McCain is better-qualified on the most important issues. BTW, I'm not a PUMA and would find it difficult to vote for incompetent Obama even if Hillary Clinton were his Veep choice.
  • APR
    "2) Whoever would have thought during the early primaries that the Democratic Party would choose to nominate its worst candidate since Jimmy Carter in 1980?"

    What a strangely decisive statement, considering we haven't even had the conventions yet. In what way(s) is Obama the worst candidate? At this point, you can clearly label him a weak candidate (weaker than Mondale, who got 13 electoral votes?!?) despite the fact that he is even or ahead in most national polls. I'm so curious to understand the mindset of holdout Clinton supporters, can you please give us a bit more explanation Holly?
  • christoofar
    1. Hillary could never be vetted for VP, due to husband Bill's amalgam of "donations" to his Foundation, Library et al, that he's steadfastly refused to open up to scrutiny.Does anyone really think they would pass muster?

    2. For Holly - "competent" John McCain's Supreme Court Justice picks.
  • StockBoySF
    I hate to rehash this debate that we've had for months during the primaries.... (And this isn't aimed specifically at Holly, in case there are any misunderstandings, but more at the PUMAs.)

    Obama clearly has more experience than Hillary. To begin with he worked his way up from being a community organizer and then went to law school, then started out at the bottom in politics. Hillary only became a Senator (years after Obama had been held elected office) because of her husband. Certainly being in the WH gave Hillary the opportunity to meet world leaders, but it was Bill who dealt with everyone including his own advisers. Hillary was a good First Lady and attended those to responsibilities well.

    Furthermore Obama ran a far superior campaign than Hillary. Even after Hillary got an extension from her bud, the Gov. of PA, Rendell to file her delegate list she still could not file a complete list.

    Obama is better organized and has far more experience in being elected to offices. Hillary was, for all intents and purposes, given the US Senate seat for NY because of her political connections. Obama had no similar connections and earned his first elected seat (and then the US Senate seat for IL) the hard way. For what it's worth, both Hillary and Obama were lucky that they didn't face strong competition for those seats in the Senate.

    It doesn't matter if the Dems have chosen the worst nominee in decades, anyway. The battle is between McCain and Obama so let's talk about that, which is reality, rather than whine about Obama stealing Hillary's spot, which he didn't. Besides HIllary changed her own rules (for MI and FL) after she could not win as a result of those rules).
  • The term "better qualified" doesn't apply to McCain or Obama. The most qualified people to be POTUS are:

    Bill Clinton
    George Bush Sr.
    George Bush Jr.
    Jimmy Carter

    And what are they: former presidents! It's never about who's better qualified in our wonderful presidential elections. It's about who can look and sound like president. In my honest opinion, both John McCain and Barack Obama had presidential moments. So it goes down to who has the most "I like you" votes this year. American Idol style. For better or for worse.

    So if disenchanted Clinton voters want to vote for McCain because they don't like Obama, more power to you. Now if McCain does something in office that totally goes against your deep seated principals dear Clinton supporters, remember, you liked McCain and disliked Obama. Just like American Idol.

    I love it!
  • kritt11
    Honestly, Clinton voters voting for McCain would be even worse than Nader supporters handing the 2000 election over to George W. Bush. Its cutting off your nose to spite your face. because McCain is about everything that Clinton is not.
  • the ad will be effective because everyone knows it is true. obama had the chance to suck it up, share the ticket with clinton and lead a united democratic party victory in november. instead he chose to nurse his pride and go with the unspeakably vile biden.

    when the democrats go down in flames in november it will be because they have chosen not to reach out to the hillary voters (but that's because they "don't need" our votes as they never tire of repeating) and also because the obama campaign - after months of grandiose rhetoric - has decided to sell out its base on every one of its signature issues: FISA, NAFTA, Iraq, offshore drilling, etc. Adding a glad-handing Washington fixer like Biden to the mix while blowing off Clinton shows it's not about "change" - it's just about ego.

    Obama needs to give people a reason to vote for him. So far he's doing a lousy job.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    And londonamerican proves my point. Personal attacks and levels of vitriol that make me feel like we have a visitor from some hardcore Republican web site are what I expect any time one of the PUMA crowd posts anywhere.

    And Holly never answers the question of what issues McCain is so superior to Obama on. Taxes? Economy? Health Care? Supreme Court appointments? Choice versus anti-choice? How long to stay in Iraq? Whether to actually do what the Iraqi government wants when it comes to their country? Which ones, Holly?
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