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A GOP Bidenpalooza

On Thursday of this week I was participating in chat during the taping of Ed Morrissey’s show when the discussion turned to speculation regarding Obama’s upcoming VP selection. He was talking to Duane Patterson, the producer of Hugh Hewitt’s radio program, and Joe Biden’s name popped up. (Keep in mind that both of these gentlemen are staunch conservatives and supporters of John McCain.) Duane commented, “We couldn’t really get that lucky, could we?” They both had a good laugh, and I cheerfully commented, asking Ed how the weather was in “wishfulthinkingland.” (I was immediately informed by another viewer that I had earlier made a reference to “President Barr” so I could probably have Duane arrested, since I was obviously the president of that hopeful but imaginary nation.)

Clearly, at least in American politics, truth is stranger than fiction, since you are doubtless already aware that Obama has actually gone ahead and selected Biden for the number two slot. While our good friend Shaun Mullen has already pointed out some very flattering things about Joe Biden, astute political observers must be scratching their heads this morning and wondering if Caroline Kennedy didn’t spike Barack’s punch during their last meeting. How on Earth did the Democrats wind up with Biden as the running mate?

Clearly the Republicans were not only salivating over the prospect, but they had a series of advertisements ready to roll out moments after the long awaited text message arrived. The number of problems with this pick is rather daunting, but let’s take a look at a few of them. First of all, Biden is only six years the junior of John McCain. While many of us have had a grand old time making fun of McCain’s age, clearly Obama feels that Biden is ready to step into the top job on Day One, should it be required, so age must no longer be an issue. Say goodbye to all of those “Things John McCain is Older Than” web sites in terms of election leverage.

Far from being a political outsider and agent of change, Biden has been in the Senate since the Nixon administration. One of the problems with running Senators for the Oval Office is that they have long records of voting on every issue under the sun – records which their opponents pick through and scrutinize, finding every one which can be used to their political advantage. Biden’s voting record is longer than your average gang-banger’s rap sheet. (This may be why it’s not a good idea to put two senators on the same ticket… not that I want to remind anyone of the 2004 elections, of course.)

Biden also has a bit of a reputation for losing his temper. (Check out this story where he told one potential voter he had a “much higher IQ than you” when he didn’t like a question that was asked of him.) Remember all of the delicious stories about John McCain’s legendary hot-headed temper-tantrums and poking a finger in the chest of a colleague during a Senate committee meeting, and how we thought that would be fertile ground against the Arizonan this fall? Kiss that goodbye as well.

Biden apparently is also prone to bad gaffes on the campaign trail and tends toward “exaggeration” to put it kindly. He once told the press that “I exaggerate when I’m angry.” Oy vey. The previous link will take you to a string of whoppers he told during one single exchange. In terms of gaffes, you don’t do much better than telling an Indian-American supporter, “You can’t go into a Dunkin Donuts or a 7-11 without a slight Indian accent these days.” That’s hardly the only example the GOP has to draw on.

I really thought all of the previous chatter about Biden was a head-fake, designed to throw the press off the scent of the real pick. At this point, Obama is fast-becoming the only convincing argument I’ve seen in favor of gun control. He shoots himself in the foot so often that I’m shocked the man has any toes left. Now all McCain has to do is somehow avoid picking Mitt Romney as his running mate and I think we’ll have to award the point to Big Mac on the Veep Pick segment of the competition.

UPDATE: As the angry e-mails already begin to arrive, let me add two more points on Biden. First of all, he’s a man who only this year went on camera saying that Obama wasn’t ready to be president and that the Oval Office was not a good place for “on the job training.” If you don’t think that’s going to be the centerpiece in every McCain advertisement this fall, you may be taking a shot at my seat in the president’s office for Wishfulthinkingland.

Second, the selection of Biden fails the tried-and-true tests of a good VP pick. Does the nominee bring you better geography or demographics? Biden is from Delaware, the east coast version of a flyover state. It reliably votes Democratic for president. If Obama thought he was in any danger of losing Delaware, he shouldn’t have been running in the first place. And what does Biden bring to the table in terms of the legions of angry women and Hillary supporters? Yet another “old white guy” on the ticket does nothing but caulk up those “18 million cracks in the ultimate glass ceiling.” Sorry, folks. Joe Biden certainly does seem like a wonderful man with a compelling life story, but how this translates into a strong VP pick for Obama is a total mystery to me.

AND MORE… As was helpfully pointed out in the comments section (hat tip to Neocon) let’s not forget the previously-dominant issue of the Iraq war. Obama made his bones during this election cycle talking first about how Hillary Clinton lacked the judgment to get the Iraq war right. (She voted in favor of the authorization to use military force in Iraq.) Barack later criticized John McCain for his support of the war (”getting it wrong”) and voiced his opposition to the surge. (Another place he had better “judgment” than McCain.) He has now selected a running mate who not only voted in favor of the war, but came out on McCain’s side in saying what a great idea the surge was. (The GOP is already running video clips and articles on that one.) What does that say about Obama’s judgment? He picked somebody who demonstrated the exact same lack of judgment for which he excoriated Clinton and McCain?

I understand the passionate approval many have for Biden as a good senator and a good man, but I’m just asking you to consider how Obama is pretty much writing all of McCain’s fall campaign advertisements for him at this point. Oh,and just to toss some more fat onto the fire, Obama has also been yelling about the “evil lobbyists” who are ruining our political system for some time now. Did he bother to look into all of Biden’s lobbyist connections? Talk about lobbing softballs for Team McCain to knock out of the park.

  • SteveK
    It seems that there are many on the right who don't grasp the meaning of: “We couldn’t really get that lucky, could we?”

    Or perhaps it's their propensity for needing to lowering all election dialogue to slash and burn. Then again now that the general public see's through the hollow, substance lacking technique... Well the Democrats couldn't really get that lucky... could they?
  • Neocon
    I do not mind Joe Biden. I think hes a decent person. At least hes not far left of center.

    The number one issue that everyone seems to be overlooking in this is that HE VOTED FOR THE WAR.

    Barak Obama made the centerpiece of his bid against Hillary that he made a different Judgment and that Hillary was wrong for voting for the war. This is going to become the focal point in the days and weeks ahead.

    Not Biden, but Obama's judgment. He plain screwed the pooch on this deal.
  • Remind me to update this post again shortly to reflect the war vote / judgment thing. At the moment I'm still busy answering e-mails from all the haters.
  • Neocon
    Yeah I really am flabberghasted over this deal. The focal point of his run was antiwar or certainly anti Iraq. Now hes come out in support of the surge. Changed his position continously on Iraq. Wants to escalate in Afghanistan. Wants to listen to the Ground commanders (something the GOP and Bush and McBush always repeated)

    and now.........now........

    He selects a VP who voted for the war.

    Folks......Obama is a work in progress. By the time election day gets here he will change parties and become a registered Republican and be hanging with the Neocons.
  • D. E.Rodriguez
    No, this is not from a "hater."

    Just someone who wants to observe that no matter who Obama picked to be his running mate, the real haters would have had their "nice commentaries" ready to go...and go...and go.

    With Biden, at least most of the hate messages will be recycled ones, as the haters have had many, many years to practice their skills on Biden.
  • SteveK
    "No, this is not from a "hater." "

    Well said D.E. Rodriguez... My feeling as well BUT when caught taking a low road Jazz resorts to phantom "haters from the other side". Isn't this fun!
  • Neocon
    There wont be much hate for Biden. Hes not a bad guy and he would have been an awesome pick for Hillary as VP.

    This choice has ALWAYS been about Obama's judgment.and the criticism this choice is generating is that he does not fit in with Obama's message or values or judgment.
  • GeorgeSorwell
    I have to agree with SteveK about Jazz's difficulty in accepting criticism.

    I mean, really--Ed Morrissey? Hugh Hewitt?

    You wouldn't have had to look very far--try the TMV post right below this one--to learn about a high-profile conservative Republican who thinks the choice of Biden is good for our country.
  • DLS
    What are the idiotic fringist anti-war (anti-US-success) people going to do now, stay home that Biden has been selected? Let them; if anything, it improves the electorate.

    The hypocrisy of a pro-war, establishment, DC fixture, selection is no surprise; Dems have been hypocritical (and dishonest, and ...) innumerable times. The thing to do is to reframe this because it shouldn't be surprising at all.

    Just look at him for what he offers the campaign:

    * Directly addresses concerns Americans have about Obama's foreign policy views.

    (Exploits Iraq, still the hottest political issue of this campaign)

    * The intellectuals' strong preference for President prior to the end of his campaign, don't forget; this makes him probably the best establishment, pro-war figure possible. Oceans of Dem voters are pro-establishment and pro-"incumbent."
  • DLS
    "Obama's message"

    That's just part of the Packaging, with depth you can judge accordingly.
  • DLS
    "the haters have had many, many years to practice their skills on Biden"

    There are orders of magnitude more haters and hatred on the Left. Face facts.

    Among other things, with Biden's reputation for making odd statements now and then (something I discount, but others do not, and in fact overreact to them), I am looking ahead with amusement as well as curiosity to whether the many more haters on the Left will, among other things, cease their bloated bleating about McCain's Famous Temper, or end the stupid to the hateful ageist remarks about McCain.

    You know, to avoid being commonly hypocritical, another staple on the Left.
  • More updates to the post, so refresh if you didn't see them. As to some of the inane comments here, allow me to expand a bit. First of all, as to "phantoms", you're lucky enough not to be copied on all my e-mail, so you should probably rethink that comment. Yes, there are "haters" out there on both sides of the aisle. Deal with it.

    I accept criticism all the time, but disagreeing with me is different than flat out lying by saying that your opinion is fact and my opinion is incorrect. They are all opinions.

    And apparently, to some of our friends on the far left, anything which does not frame itself clearly as a cheerleading article for any decision made by a Democrat is now "taking the low road"? Give me a break. I said nothing to attack Biden in the article. I simply pointed out aspects of his political history which make him an easy target for detractors, make Obama look either hypcritical or delusional in picking him, and that it was a boneheaded choice in my opinion for all of the reasons listed. Believe it or not, this is not an entirely left wing, pro-Obama site. You find opinions here from all over the spectrum. And assertions that anyone else in the blogosphere who may have more conservative views (e.g. Ed Morrissey) is automatically an evil, war mongering Rethuglican who hates America, puppies, gays minorities and poor people is more of the ignorance you encounter out on those internets every day. There are some excellent (and not very good) writers from all across the spectrum. While I don't count myself in that exclusive club, Morrissey and Rick Moran are two examples of definitely partisan, but very talented writers with strong opinions of their own and the ability to explain those opinions well. If you pull your head out of the echo chamber for a few minutes, you'll find that seeing opposing opinions once in a while doesn't cause brain cancer. Give it a shot.
  • kritt11
    I actually think it was a smart decision. The key problems that Obama has is that he lacks years in the Senate, in particular foreign policy experience. The polls show that he is losing out to McCain in that area, and Biden will help to fill the gap. Yes, he makes gaffes, but so does McCain---did he ever figure out how many houses he owns????

    Also, GOP strategists love to paint their candidate as the salt of the earth regular guys, while defining Democrats as elitists who "know whats best for you and me". They were very successful at doing that with John Kerry, and could easily peg Obama the same way. But, Biden, though wordy, is a regular guy, who can help with union employees and the white working class.
  • DLS
    "If you pull your head out of the echo chamber for a few minutes, you'll find that seeing opposing opinions once in a while doesn't cause brain cancer. Give it a shot."

    Lefty talk radio here in Detroit metro is something I listen to more than to the righties. (Or I go from lefty AM to NPR, which is also very leftish, obviously.) Anyone who does this can "see" beyond the frequent illogic and emotion-driven behavior so common on the Left and can hear other views, sometimes hear news you didn't get from other, less-politically-driven-and-opinionated, sources. Some of the shows are obviously better than others (Stephanie Miller's show has always been childish and silly, for example, and has descended in the past two years to being an FM-style juvenile shock-jock, always-thinking-falsely-we're-comedians, kind of show that sadly emphazises Miller's frequent dippiness. But, others' shows are better -- Bill Press, Thom Hartmann, even loud-mouth Ed Schultz, Rachel Maddow, etc. There's plenty far left stuff on there but the shows are more broadly-based now.)


    http://www.1310wdtw.com/main.html


    http://www.billpress.com/

    http://www.thomhartmann.com/

    http://www.bigeddieradio.com/

    http://www.rachelmaddow.com/


    And in addition to the broadening of the field that underlies the recent success instead of failure of leftist talk radio, there is something else people can infer from this unless they don't realize it as it stares them in the face. The far left is a fringe in this country. But less far to the left is not so. With all the liberal media already established, liberal opinion talk radio has been tried since at least the early 1990s (Mario Cuomo had a show, to name one example) and failed spectactularly. But the shows are currently doing well enough there are numerous shows here in Detroit, meaning they're presumably, finally, for a change, doing well, getting airplay nation-wide. People should be asking why this is so? Does this constitute a barometer of current public opinion, not just anti-Bush, but anti-GOP or express what we've seen, that the GOP and also conservatism in the USA is currently aimless or driftless and not offensive to most, but largely unappealing? Just a thought. It may not be permanent or always at this "rate," but it probably is descriptive and indicative of _something_ at least since, say, the 1996 elections.

    http://pewresearch.org/pubs/933/a-closer-look-a...
  • I think it's necessary that Obama have someone who is a bit more hawkish on foreign policy than he is. Biden has the experience to back it up. Yet, he's mostly in line with Obama's views, so they compliment each other.

    I think you make many good points, but I don't think the situation is as dire as you think, Jazz.
  • GeorgeSorwell
    Lobbyist connections?

    I'm sure everyone knows that the lobbying company owned by McCain's senior foreign policy adviser got paid $200,000 by the government of Georgia the very day McCain placed a telephone call to the President of Georgia.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    Morrissey is like McCain in that for the last year or so he's been going downhill, pandering to the worst in the Republican Party. And as far as your point about what more conservative people believe without being may nasty negative things, let's really be honest about that. If you support the current Republican party you are supporting a bunch of raging homophobic bigots because their policies and hatreds rule the policies of the Republican Party. If you support the current Republican Party you are supporting a bunch of people who have no problem with throwing poor people under the bus. I live in Missouri and our current governor (Whose life goal is to grow up to be GWB.) and legislature are perfect examples of it. I tried reading Morrissey some and saw the slide downhill into being no better than LGF or Powerlines. We are talking the guy who joined up with Michelle Malkin, aren't we? Yep, we are.
  • There is hardly a Dem in the country that he could have picked that didn't vote for the war. Of national prominence, we have Bill Clinton (who supported the war but didn't get to vote for it), Russ Feingold, Dennis Kucinich and Al Gore (who also didn't get to vote on it).
  • Here we go yet again, George. Was I defending McCain or saying he wasn't in bed with lobbyists? No, I was not. I'm NOT EVEN VOTING FOR THE GUY. (By the way, if you'd care to donate a few of you rich, limosine liberal bucks to Bob Barr, you can do so at www.bobbarr2008.com He could use the cash.) My point, for what seems like the 100th time today, is that Obama has been making machine gun allegations all through the campaign about McCain's lobbyist ties. (And rightly so!) But then he turns around and nominates a guy with the same sort of ties. Does that really sound like a good idea to you?

    He blasts McCain for months on end about voting for the Iraq war in the first place and supporting the surge, saying that was proof of his own superior judgment. Then he turns around and picks a running mate who voted for the war and supported the surge! Hello? Is this thing on? (*taps on microphone*)

    And I don't know if Obama is really walking around thinking he's already got this election sewn up or not, but IMO, it looks to be a pretty close horse race to me. Can he really afford a "loose lips sink ships" guy going out on the trail with him and having a brand new Macaca Moment for the Democrats? Biden better reign in that sense of humor before he starts stereotyping Indian Americans as all working at the Quickie-Mart and the Donut Haus before he winds up putting a torpedo in the side of Obama's ship.
  • GeorgeSorwell
  • GeorgeSorwell
    I agree with you that it's going to be a close election.

    Time will tell how much Biden helps--or hurts. But is the possibility that he might help so far out there as to be non-existent?

    All I'm suggesting is that Biden might not be a slam-dunk through John McCain's hoop.
  • Rambie
    I think it's better he didn't pick a "yes man" or a co-president like a Cheney.

    Like Jazz said, "...you'll find that seeing opposing opinions once in a while doesn't cause brain cancer. Give it a shot."

    Debate can be a healthy, it makes you examine your position and unless you're too stupid, suborn, or partisan it may even make help you see flaws in your original position.
  • George, I definitely agree with your last comments. I don't know if Biden will make it any sort of slam dunk for McCain. (Certainly not as much as I think McCain will make it a slam dunk for Obama if he picks Romney.) I just feel Biden brings in some problems (which I guess any choice would do) and there were better choices out there. I know Kaine would have raised questions of his own, but I still have a gut feeling that he would have wound up being a dream pick, and possibly sealed the election by delivering Virginia which is still way up in the air.
  • kritt11
    Jazz-Kaine would not helped Obama in the realm of experience or foreign policy credentials, which Biden has. National security is Obama's achilles heel, which is why the campaign chose Biden.
  • rashi2006
    Maybe I'm just confused but does anyone here know why this retard has his own column? I just love the GOP pretending to be happy about the pick as they would with anyone they are excellent spinsters. I dont know who this guys is but he seems to be following the team play very well. I think most reasonable people agree that while not perfect Biden is about as good as Obama could have found. So maybe little jazz can go play in a corner til the conventions are done. God knows his opinions are only going to make people stupider.
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