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McCain: The party could “exclude people” for being “pro-gay rights“

In a Daily Standard exclusive interview, John McCain explains that he could choose a pro-choice running mate but not one who is pro-gay:

“I think it’s a fundamental tenet of our party to be pro-life but that does not mean we exclude people from our party that are pro-choice. We just have a–albeit strong–but just it’s a disagreement. And I think [Tom] Ridge is a great example of that. Far moreso than Bloomberg, because Bloomberg is pro-gay rights, pro, you know, a number of other issues.”

Via Towleroad:

This is a man who doesn’t even know what the acronym LGBT stands for. He also doesn’t really believe in gay adoption, supports a ban on gays in the military, is worried if his clothing looks too gay, isn’t sure if condoms stop the spread of HIV, thinks same-sex marriage ceremonies are okay as long as they’re just pretend, and has promised right-wing religious groups that he’ll start speaking out more vocally against LGBT causes.

It’s astonishing that some gays (14% according to this poll) will not only support him, but fund his campaign.

Think Progress points out that McCain has sought the support of the gay comunity and in 1998 told Chris Matthews that the Republican Party shouldn’t “discriminate against anyone” because of “their sexual orientation“ but…

Now McCain is more than respecting the views of the Christian right when it comes to gay rights, he’s kow-towing to them. Earlier this year, McCain personally met with the president of the Log Cabin Republicans, but the group has yet to officially endorse him.

What do the Log Cabin members think of a candidate who now supports excluding those who are “pro-gay rights?”

Marc Ambinder has a spokesman’s comment that McCain’s statement is really a “message of inclusion.” I am inclined to think McCain is of the generation that’s personally uncomfortable around ‘out’ gay people but happy to be around them so long as they know their place and stay quietly in the closet. That would also be consistent with his accepting a $23,000 contribution from a gay sex site.

  • RememberNovember
    That's funny, considering Cindy's limp-wristed ( ok that's a sterotype at gay but I couldn't help it it's topical)
  • Don't people oppose abortion because they think it's murder?

    How can you stomach someone you think supports murder, but not someone who supports two guys or two gals having the same tax benefits as a straight couple?
  • CStanley
    Chris: I have to agree with you that the pro-life position ought to be a more important one for values voters. On the other hand though, I didn't interpret McCain's comment as saying that one issue ought to take precedence (or to be more of a litmus test) than the other; I heard it as saying that people might agree to disagree on a single issue but not accept a candidate who disagreed fundamentally on several issues.
  • <Nods>
  • GeorgeSorwell
    McCain doesn't need to pander to pro-lifers because they're already in the bag for the Republican Party.

    So much so that a modest pander to pro-choicers is okay.

    But he has to tow the line on gay rights.
  • George,
    I'm hoping this election hinges more on things like executive power and foreign policy.
  • StockBoySF
    "Don't people oppose abortion because they think it's murder? How can you stomach someone you think supports murder, but not someone who supports two guys or two gals having the same tax benefits as a straight couple?"

    Chris, your comment is on the right track, and I love it- thanks! You're so right that any reasonable person would think abortion and murderers are worse than gay marriage. But the fight for gay rights just isn't about the fight to marry. Fundamentally the fight for gay rights is about the right for gays and lesbians to exist without fear, which just makes your point that much more accurate (and poignant).

    It's one thing for these anti-gay bigots to be against gay marriage, I can understand how some people may feel threatened by gay marriage. But it's another thing entirely for these anti-gay bigots to be against basic human respect toward fellow humans (and these bigots are against basic rights for gays and lesbians). These same bigots who claim to support family values will throw their own kids on the streets if they find out they are gay or lesbian. It happens everyday. If these people are willing to treat their own kids like trash, think of how these people must treat other gays and lesbians. As adults, gays and lesbians are discriminated against in employment, housing and even murdered. And people are murdered even if they are perceived to be gay or lesbian.
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