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Former White House Press Secretary Tony Snow Dies (UPDATED)

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Tony Snow, the slick, telegenic conservative writer and broadcaster who left Fox News to become White House press secretary and who was generally well-liked by the press, has lost his long — and highly public — battle with colon cancer:

After a long, candid and public battle with colon cancer, former White House press secretary and radio talk-show host Tony Snow died early this morning.

Immediate details were sketchy. But the news bulletin moved shortly after 7 a.m. Eastern time. Snow was 53.

He previously served as chief speechwriter for President George H.W. Bush and as a frequent host on the Fox News Channel on Fox News Sunday, Weekend Live and The O’Reilly Factor.

He also guest-hosted for Rush Limbaugh and had his own radio talk-show.

Last September after 17 months in the White House job Snow retired as President George W. Bush’s third press secretary, saying with his cancer he needed to earn more for his family than the job’s $168,000 salary. He was succeeded by Dana Perino.

Tributes are likely going to pour in about Snow, but not just from Republicans.

Snow was a public figure who truly seemed to have fun at his job and did it well. He was the quintessential broadcasting pro who put a professional TV face on the White House point of view. Not all people who leave the job as press secretary do so with their integrity intact — particularly not those who’ve left administrations suffering Grand Canyon-like credibility gaps. But if Snow didn’t leave with his reputation as pure as snow, he left it unbattered unbruised and unbowed.

He took over the job and immediately got rave reviews from both the press and Republican partisans and begrudging comments from many Democrats. The reason: he took over from the hapless Scott McClellan who often looked like he was undergoing a root canal while answering press questions. Snow seemed to be either having fun or setting the record straight (even when it was spin).

CNN adds this:

Snow, who had been undergoing chemotherapy treatments for a recurrence of the disease, left his White House job September 14, 2007, and joined CNN in April as a conservative commentator.

In parting comments to reporters at his final White House news conference, he said, “I feel great.”

He also called the job “the most fun I’ve ever had.”

Snow said he was leaving the White House position to make more money. His White House salary was $168,000.

“The White House is so deeply saddened by this loss,” said his replacement, White House press secretary Dana Perino. “He was a great friend and colleague and a fantastic press secretary. And his dear family is in our thoughts and prayers.”

Chief of Staff Josh Bolten had told senior White House staffers that unless they could commit to staying until Bush leaves office in January 2009, they should leave by Labor Day 2007, so Snow resigned.

Snow was first diagnosed with colon cancer in February 2005. His colon was removed, and after six months of treatment, doctors said the cancer was in remission.

A recurrence of the illness was diagnosed 11 months after he began the White House media job, and he underwent five weeks of treatment before resuming his daily briefings to the press corps. He was greeted with applause upon his return.

“Not everybody will survive cancer,” Snow told the reporters, “but on the other hand, you have got to realize you’ve got the gift of life, so make the most of it. That is my view, and I’m going to make the most of my time with you.”

Perino announced March 27, 2007, that Snow’s cancer had recurred, and said doctors had removed a growth from his abdomen the day before.

Fox News offers this perspective:

A syndicated columnist, editor, TV anchor, radio show host and musician, Snow worked in nearly every medium in a career that spanned more than 30 years.

“The White House has lost a great friend and a great colleague,” said President Bush’s press secretary Dana Perino. “We all loved watching him at the podium, but most of all we learned how to love our families and treat each other.”

Snow joined FOX in 1996 as the original anchor of “FOX News Sunday” and hosted “Weekend Live” and a radio program, “The Tony Snow Show,” before departing in 2006. A sometime fill-in host for Rush Limbaugh, Snow said he loved the intimacy of his radio audience.

“It’s a tremendous loss for us who knew him, but it’s also a loss for the country,” Roger Ailes, chairman of FOX News, said Saturday morning about Snow, calling him a “renaissance man.”

As a TV pundit and commentator for FOX News, Snow was often critical of President Bush before he became Bush’s third press secretary in 2006, following Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan. He was an instant study in the job, mastering the position — and the White House press corps — with apparent ease.

During a tenure marked by friendly jousting with journalists, Snow often danced around the press corps, occasionally correcting their grammar and speech even as he responded to their questions.

“Tony did his job with more flair than almost any press secretary before him,” said William McGurn, Bush’s former chief speechwriter. “He loved the give-and-take. But that was possible only because Tony was a man of substance who had real beliefs and principles that he was more than able to defend.”

The AP:

Snow was working for Fox News Channel and Fox News Radio when he replaced Scott McClellan as press secretary in May 2006 during a White House shake-up. Unlike McClellan, who came to define caution and bland delivery from the White House podium, Snow was never shy about playing to the cameras.

With a quick-from-the-lip repartee, broadcaster’s good looks and a relentlessly bright outlook — if not always a command of the facts — he became a popular figure around the country to the delight of his White House bosses.

He served just 17 months as press secretary, a tenure interrupted by his second bout with cancer. In 2005 doctors had removed his colon and he began six months of chemotherapy. In March 2007 a cancerous growth was removed from his abdominal area and he spent five weeks recuperating before returning to the White House.

He resigned as Bush’s chief spokesman six months later, in September 2007, citing not his health but a need to earn more than the $168,000 a year he was paid in the government post. In April, he joined CNN as a commentator.

In that year and a half at the White House, Snow brought partisan zeal and the skills of a seasoned performer to the task of explaining and defending the president’s policies. During daily briefings, he challenged reporters, scolded them and questioned their motives as if he were starring in a TV show broadcast live from the West Wing.

Snow’s tenure as White House press secretary only seemed to increase his political rock star status: he was a highly sought after speaker, and once he left the White House he was a big name if he appeared on talk shows.

Snow will likely be missed for several reasons. For one thing, it’s hard to find partisans on either side of the aisle these days who truly seem to have FUN with politics. The death of NBC’s Tim Russert took away a media figure who also seemed to enjoy the give or take of a process that to many seems increasingly unsavory. For another, the Republicans don’t seem to have many “happy warrior” partisans anymore but, rather, angry media faces. If the White House had to put its best face forward, Snow was a smart and as effective as possible choice.

More reaction from political weblogs is HERE.

For more perspective on Snow, read this TMV post:
Cancer Survivor White House Tony Snow’s Special Perspective

UPDATE: Several emails from bloggers and readers express shock that upon the news of the death of Snow — a human being — some people have to continue ideological wars, almost welcoming his death. Such is politics in the 21st century where the politics of compassion, joy and consensus have been denigrated by many who think if you disagree on policies you have to hate.

But NOT ALL feel or react that way.

1. Read The All Spin Zone on Tony Snow.

2. Read The Gun Toting Liberal

  • Don Quijote
    Not all people who leave the job as press secretary do so with their integrity intact


    What integrity? He was a right-wing propagandist!

    If by integrity, you mean that once bought he stayed bought, then yes he kept his integrity.
  • Neocon
    I was saddened at his passing. His family and firends will miss him and his political opponents will also. That is what Good politics should be about.
  • Don Quijote
    I was saddened at his passing.


    Less room in hell.
  • kritt11
    Well, I didn't agree with him on anything, and thought he DID push Bush/Cheney propaganda, with little regard for the truth. McClellan at least had a conscience and later rescinded some of the bulls*** he had put out as Bush's former press secretary. Snow felt no such remorse

    That said, I am sorry that he suffered with a horrible disease, and that he is now deceased, because he was a human being--- and I am not bitter or partisan enough to forget that.
  • jwest
    Liberals.........(sigh).........always a class act.
  • kathyedits
    "Less room in hell."

    Why? Because you disagreed with him? I disagreed with him, too. Now that we've established that, let's look at a few other facts about Tony Snow:

    1. He died of colon cancer.
    2. He was only 53 years old.
    3. He leaves behind three children under the age of 15, and a wife.
    4.On a personal level, he was well-liked. He had a good sense of humor.
    5. He showed dignity and courage in the face of a terrifying disease.
    6. His opinions on political and social issues were anathema to me.

    Okay, so there we've got five good reasons to be filled with sadness, especially for his family, and one reason to use as an excuse to say mean-spirited things.

    Is it really THAT HARD to make the better choice?
  • kryon77
    And the liberal commenters above are of the "moderate voice" variety!

    Of, course, Don_Quijote + Co were just taking their cues from Joe Gandelman, who notes, falsely, that Tony Snow was "slick," and additionally notes, falsely, that Snow "didn’t leave with his reputation as pure as snow," nod, nod, wink, wink. The other commenters were just following his lead.
  • jwest
    A quick scan of the most popular liberal sites shows the moderators feverishly deleting the most disgusting comments.

    It’s just inconceivable to me how people can live with so much hate.. How do they function in society each day? What must their children be like?
  • DLS
    This site has never been "moderate."

    And consider the response had Karl Rove been the one who died today.
  • mikkel
    kritt don't you think there is a huge difference between Snow and McClellan? I mean Snow never seemed to be super serious and was pretty upfront that whatever he said was just what they were trying to push at the time. It turns out that McClellan was deeply disturbed but he said nothing at the time.

    You can argue about what it means that Snow was so blatantly an entertainer, but that is a reflection of this Presidency. I was somewhat upset at McClellan for not speaking out sooner while I don't have much of a grievance about Snow and think this is a shame. (By contrast I had a big problem with Russert who had a big hand in standardizing the "Beltway Politics" line of thinking into news, and his "hard hitting questions" were just gotcha questions while ignoring real issues.)
  • dr_don_key
    While Tony Snow's dying was somewhat surprising, even more of a shocker was that he was almost 60-years-old. I certainly disagreed with most of his politics, and I certainly didn't dig the wingnut rhetoric of his former employer, FOX News. That said, he seemed like a decent human being. The kind of guy who wouldn't hold a grudge towards you, simply because you didn't agree on political issues 100% of the time. He's really a thinking man's Republican, if that isn't too much of an oxymoron--George W. Bush's cronies could learn a thing or two. How refreshing when contrasted with the cantankerous, unyielding,. divisive demeanors of Karl Rove, Jesse Helms, Dick Cheney, etc..Tony Snow proved that you can be conservative and not have the personality of a rock. RIP.
  • He always seemed like he'd be a nice fun guy to be around. Just like George W. Bush.
  • Weightman
    Partisanship should cease at the cemetery gates. You only diminish yourself by disparaging good people who didn't happen to share your political principles.
  • daveinboca
    Gandelman has allowed this site to degenerate into a snide [or in the case of "less room in hell," silly] post-it board for libs. Although its left-center tilt is at least susceptible to occasional bouts of sanity, the commentators often lurch into out-and-out leftist bias.

    Or in the case of the "less room in hell" comment, sheer mindless hatred.
  • dr_don_key
    response to: (DLS)

    I'd classify this site as relatively moderate.

    And regarding your comment about Rove...As I noted in my post, you can be very conservative and still be likeable. Karl Rove is simply not a likeable person. It really has nothing to do with his politics. Karl Rove has no morals. No ethics. No dignity. No sense of how to treat people with respect. His demeanor is ugly as a . warthog. THAT is mainly why Karl Rove is despised by many Democrats. Unlike Tony Snow, he's not the kind of person who causes you to think, "Hey, he's a nice guy," before, "I hate his politics."
  • Neocon
    I'd classify this site as relatively moderate.

    This is funny. Not that I agree or disagree with your assessment but then after saying this you go on to spew far left venom laced trash at Karl Rove.

    thats just too funny.
  • daveinboca
    neocon, dr don may be projecting some of his own toxic thoughts onto poor Karl, who has become an icon of evil for moonbats despite being a generally well-liked & respected guy inside the Beltway---except for crazed spew-flecked mouthings from ultra-left dumpster dwellers.
  • Neocon
    McClellan at least had a conscience and later rescinded some of the bulls*** he had put out as Bush's former press secretary.

    I want to be sure we know the truth here.

    "Scott McClellan was not the press secretary. He was the deputy press secretary who dealt with domestic issues," said Dan Bartlett, a former White House counselor. "So, he would not have even been really have access to the types of meetings and deliberations that the president participated in"

    Just thought we should know the truth and not leave this discussion like so many others distorted with half truths. I know there are some scratching their heads over the above statement. We invaded Iraq in March 2003 and Ari Fleischer stepped down in July 2003 and McClelland was then promoted to press secretary. So in the time leading up to the invasion of Iraq he was assistant press secretary and was in charge of Domestic briefings.
  • Marlowecan
    God, the moment I saw the headline about Snow's death, I KNEW the viciousness would pour from the LibLeft this morning. As it has. (I except progressives such as ChrisWWW above, who are decent.)

    There was a similar glee from the LibLeft, I recall when Snow announced his cancer had returned.

    Even the NYT ... the mainstream paper of liberal record ... gets its digs in, while typically screwing up basic facts of recent history, such as GWB being elected in 2004:

    "At the White House, he turned the daily press briefing into something of a one-man show...even when he was occasionally short on the facts.... During Mr. Bush’s 2006 re-election campaign, Mr. Snow raised eyebrows by using his celebrity to raise money for Republican candidates — something that by Mr. Snow’s own admission, other press secretaries had declined to do for fear of seeming too partisan."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/13/washington/11...

    Amazing that Ms. Stolberg, writing this in the New York Times this morning, should accuse Snow of being "too partisan" and "short on the fact" . . . all the while being partisan herself . . . and misremembering the date of George Bush's Presidential election!

    Seriously! The NYT getting the year of a Presidential re-election wrong! And in the process attacking Snow on the facts.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    It's sad when someone passes under the circumstances of Snow's death. It is perfectly correct to feel for his family and friends. I know how he seemed on the air and he didn't seem to be a really bad person. Maybe as long as politics were avoided if you disagreed with him he was everything good that so many will point out. But Snow was a political partisan. I'm not about to make comments about him winding up in Hell or anything else so extreme. I don't agree with them or feel that they accomplish anything. But I will point out some facts that the spewers of hate from the Right seem to be conveniently ignoring.

    It is not simple disagreement with his views that cause me to think that he will receive praise that he is not due on any occasion, even his death. It is not simple ideological disagreement that causes much of the condemnation of Snow that will be heard. It is that Snow lied continuously and incessantly to the American public as part of his job as Bush's press secretary. He did so willingly and enthusiastically. He did not care one whit about what it meant to the country, much like his employer. Since it was a Republican administration doing it it could be justified. Ideology uber alles was his life, much as it is for everyone in the Bush White House and the majority of his appointees in government. Those facts will be denied by Marlowecan, DaveInBoca, jwest and their fellow Republicans and Republican sympathizers. Why? Because they are so very much like Mr. Snow and his fellows that try to pass for conservatives nowadays.
  • Marlowecan
    Jim...I would ask you to go to Think Progress.

    Snow is being compared to Joseph Goebbels...media enabler of Hitler, who is a leader in most sweepstakes for the greatest monster of human history.

    Contrary to what Jwest notes above -- "A quick scan of the most popular liberal sites shows the moderators feverishly deleting the most disgusting comments." -- it seems liberal moderators have given up the ghost, and letting the full venom pour.

    And we are "spewers of hate from the Right"?

    When Ted Kennedy was diagnosed with brain cancer, I felt badly. I didn't much care for him, but he contributed greatly to the United States, a nation he cared for I believe.

    Partisanship SHOULD stop at the cemetary gates. Death will come for us all.

    It is as John Donne said:

    "Each man's death diminishes me,
    For I am involved in mankind.
    Therefore, send not to know
    For whom the bell tolls,
    It tolls for thee."
  • Don Quijote
    Or in the case of the "less room in hell" comment, sheer mindless hatred.


    It maybe hatred, but it ain't mindless.

    Snow was a political mouth-piece on the right-wing propaganda network "Fox News" for many years, and a paid liar of the Bush administration.

    He always seemed like he'd be a nice fun guy to be around.


    That and $4.50 will get you a gallon of Gas.
  • Marlowecan
    Wow. What a morning! You know, I think it is good that the worst comments AREN'T deleted.

    I am sure there will be a wholesale cleanup by liberal moderators of their sites after the weekend, to make sure no one can ever prove that progressives took great glee in the death of Snow. I hope Google cache is doing its job, and recording for posterity this display of decency from the Liberal Left.

    Ironic, no, that Sen. Obama -- who declares his wish to end toxic partisanship of the past -- is the Chosen One of these specimens?
  • christoofar
    Sorry to hear of his untimely passing. 53 is just too damn young. Sad to see so much
    vitrol being spewed here from both sides. A man died, his family is devastated.
    isn't that enough?

    Just another point headed "LeftLibber"
  • Actually, this site is probably pretty civil. I'm sure some others, like FDL and other really left wing sites, have a lot more vile.

    Just as some of the more loonie right wing sites would if it were a liberal guy. Some of the stuff I saw when Ted Kennedy's tumor was announced was disgusting.
  • DLS
    At least there isn't similar viciousness or even impatience expressed at the other death today (the 99-year-old, that's who).
  • Silhouette
    Here's one of Tony Snow's interviews with Bill O'Reily...

    Can't really figure out which democrat they're talking about in it...seems a little ominous...usually rumors about important people at least get mentioned...but everyone, even Snow, agreeing to stay silent about them?

    (Couldn't be about Hillary because we all know they wouldn't hesitate to report trash about her. Who, who, who is it about and what?)

    Maybe they're just waiting for the right time to report on it. Too bad Tony Snow won't be around to jump in once the signal is given..

    "Anonymous people" my hiney...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPuVJwWg-Q
  • sh0ter
    DLS,

    Why would a doctor draw hatred on a political site?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7503157.stm
  • Jim_Satterfield
    Actually, Marlowe, my comment about hatred was aimed at what DaveInBoca and DLS are saying about this site and Joe.
  • jwest
    Dymero,

    When Kennedy's tumor was announced, I looked for hateful comments on the right wing blogs (along with the MSM, who would have loved find some).

    Of course, there were none.

    Conservatives aren't hate filled like liberals are. Our minds just don't work like that.

    The internet never forgets. If you have any examples of right wing comments on Kennedy, please bring them to our attention. It's fashionable to say "both sides do it", but it's just not true.
  • Don Quijote
    If you have any examples of right wing comments on Kennedy, please bring them to our attention. It's fashionable to say "both sides do it", but it's just not true.

    Conservatives Forum.com The #1 Conservatives Forum on Google.com


    That was perhaps a bit hasty of me, wishing him ill.
    On reflection, I agree with you and also hope he recovers.

    I hope he recovers just long enough to realise he's at the back of the emergency room waiting line...with a hundred illegals ahead of him.


    THAT WAS EASY!
  • kryon77
    Gandelman writes:

    "Such is politics in the 21st century where the politics of compassion, joy and consensus have been denigrated by many who think if you disagree on policies you have to hate."

    I agree.

    One of the 1st to join in this denigration is Joe Gandelman, who took the opportunity of Tony Snow's death to describe him as "slick" (a euphemism for "dishonest"), and who said that Snow didn't leave his position as press secretary "with his reputation as pure as snow" (another euphemism for "dishonest" or "lacking in moral integrity").

    Even on the day on Tony Snow's death, Gandelman could not resist sliming him personally, just because he disagreed with his politics. And all the while, sanctimoniously preaching against those who are doing the same, but who are more straightforward about it.
  • archangel
    Hi all you guys. Lively discussion, and your comments are appreciated and I can see that there are at least two or more sort of rough themes to this conversation;

    --some commenters write to remark on the passing of Tony Snow and what that might mean, for his family and the press of times past, and that, to my two cents worth, is worthy commentary for a person who was a father, a husband, et al

    --and some other commenters write to remark on something that, just my two cents worth, I think ought be discussed more rather than less... the state of information flow from our elected officials to us through the media pipeline; all of it: those who manage the flow controller valves at the top, the nature of what is put in, and the pipes that carry it, and the basins it's aimed at to refill, and which basins its diverted from chronically. And a number of etc's. I am sorry there is not a separate article at TMV today for you all to lay these particular issues out in full. I hope there will be in days to come.

    And, regarding the 'posting comments rules' at TMV, as always, we ask you not to attack the writer, and not to attack each other, but to just stay with your take on the topic at hand.

    Our Editor in Chief, Joe, is on the road, working hard in the huge heat and humidity of the midwest, and with cranky dial up at his motel. So, you get to hear from me. lol.

    My regards to you all, and I'm not mom, just
    Dr.E
  • archangel
    nota bene: As you all know many words in modern English can take on a colloquial meaning that is different than the etymological root/ meaning of the same word. I truly love the etymology of words, and as an autodidact as a child, spent much time studying 'the story within the story' of many words.... even though I sometimes misuse words without meaning to, today... as English is not my first language... sometimes I think it was pig-Latin.

    The word "Slick" actually means smooth, to be without rough edges, polished in that sense, or without snags, to flow . TO be urbane, well organized. The word slick, at least in terms of the way a productivity-based culture would see it, is weighted to the positive.

    I know a good many slick authors in my line of work; you have likely seen them on BookTV, who flow with ease, always ready, polished and never without a ready comment... not like myself and many other authors who sometimes sit there looking either like fawns in the headlights, or else need time to drop the bucket into the well and bring up something from the underground water that might be useful.

    Slick: Old Norse, it is said, for sleek. Also smooth.

    I cant mind-read our writers, but I believe this is the intent Joe meant. I know what you are saying that there's another form of the word in common usage that means shallow, hackneyed, positioning. I could be wrong, but looking at the rest of the article filled with words of much praise, I dont believe it was used this way here today.

    In any event, I hope Mr Snow's passing was painless (smooth in that sense) and that he was surrounded by much love.

    dr.e
  • Marlowecan
    Dr. E said: "...but looking at the rest of the article filled with words of much praise, I dont believe it was used this way here today."

    I would agree.

    Of course, I can't read J.G.'s mind...but Dr. E's reading was the one I took from Joe's words in sum.

    Also, I would like to add, that I like The Moderate Voice.
    It is one of the few (...is it the only...) site in the blogosphere where all ideologies meet and argue.

    Yes, there is a liberal slant in general among the writers. But this can be invigorating to read sometimes. Snorting as I look at the screen over morning coffee, and then banging away on the keys.

    I also enjoy Joe G's side-line love of the History of Comedy, and his posting of YouTube classics.

    Anyhow, just my two cents.

    Everyone can go back to their bomb throwing . . . .
  • It seems a little crazy to get worked up over Tony Snow. He wasn't the definition of evil. Anybody that wants to pretend he was is giving the late Mr. Snow far too much credit.

    He was an administration mouthpiece. That's all. While the administration has made lives worse for thousands of Americans and people worldwide, I don't think Tony Snow had effect one way or the other.

    In fact, the worse thing I can say about Tony Snow is that I was always disappointed when I saw he was hosting the O'Reilly Factor instead of BillO. Tony just wasn't as entertaining :-)

    Anyways, RIP Mr. Snow.

    And a word for the bombthrowers: save your wrath for unrepentant a**holes like Helms.
  • daveinboca
    Mr Satterfield would never comment about the hatred displayed by specimens of viciousness like Dr. donkey & DonQuixote because partisan hatred of the BDS variety is okay on the left, but is not okay if it comes from the right? Hmmm...... Very thoughtful.

    And the "lies" that Tony Snow was telling, care to delineate them, or are you satisfied in your smug way that you've read a couple of books & know better?

    Gandelman may be moderate by Kossack standards, but he is a sock puppet for Obama & that's okay for guys who call honest men like Tony Snow "a paid liar." What about Kerry & countless other moonbat lefties who lie ceaselessly about process crimes & countless nonsensical absurdities like Plamegate?

    And the example given about Ted Kennedy is hardly the obscene hate-filled spew that libtards vomit on-line about Tony Snow..... The psycho-lefties simply project their own dishonesty onto their opponents.
  • archangel
    Dear Daveinboca, with all respect to you, I have asked politely that commenters refrain from attacking the writer or one another. Please stay with the topic. I'd appreciate it. Calling Joe or other people names isnt staying with the topic at hand. I hope not to have to say anything more about this matter.

    dr.e
  • Don Quijote
    Mr Satterfield would never comment about the hatred displayed by specimens of viciousness like Dr. donkey & DonQuixote because partisan hatred of the BDS variety is okay on the left, but is not okay if it comes from the right? Hmmm...... Very thoughtful.


    You sow the wind you reap the whirlwind, all you right-wing nuts spent the nineties doing everything you could to destroy the Clinton Administration and you succeeded, then in 2000 through a Judicial coup, you shove the retard in that is currently in the White House down the Countries Throat. Had Gore won ( and he did) and made it to the White House, you would have spent the 00's destroying his administration.

    And it's not BDS to observe that under the administration of the Retard, the US has managed to lose two wars despite having a military budget that half of the worlds military budget, that the constitution was used as toilet paper, that the US now officially endorses torture, that the US Dollar has lost 50% of it's value, that median wages are down and that we are now facing the largest financial crisis since the Great Depression.

    And the "lies" that Tony Snow was telling, care to delineate them, or are you satisfied in your smug way that you've read a couple of books & know better?


    The many falsehoods of Tony Snow
    Even more Tony Snow falsehoods

    Gandelman may be moderate by Kossack standards, but he is a sock puppet for Obama & that's okay for guys who call honest men like Tony Snow "a paid liar."

    If you work as a press secretary for the Bush Administration you are a paid liar, if you have any doubts, Scott McClellan- What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington's Culture of Deception


    What about Kerry & countless other moonbat lefties who lie ceaselessly about process crimes & countless nonsensical absurdities like Plamegate?


    Process Crimes are crimes, Plamegate was a scandal and had it occurred under a Democratic Administration, it would have been used to impeach that president.


    And the example given about Ted Kennedy is hardly the obscene hate-filled spew that libtards vomit on-line about Tony Snow..... The psycho-lefties simply project their own dishonesty onto their opponents


    No, it's just a reflection of all the crap you right-wingers have been spewing at us for the last thirty years, there is no point being nice, polite or civil with you people, since you will take it as a sign of weakness. Right-wingers, like all bullies only start acting civilized after they have had their teeth kicked in. The real problem is that the moderates and most elected democrats haven't figured that out yet.
  • kritt11
    mikkel- Yes they had a different approach. But, I still hold Snow responsible IF he knew that he was helping to deceive the public in order to sell the Bush/Cheney agenda. The WH is not a cable news show, so as entertaining as he was, Snow's approach was more reprehensible than McClellan's. But, I do agree with you that, McClellan should have spoken out sooner. Even so, better late than never.

    As I said earlier, I wish death on no one regardless of their political affiliation, (even Karl Rove-- though I think his rear end should be sitting in a prison cell, lol). Tony Snow was too young to die, and he was a father and son. I think his technique was brilliant, but it did not benefit the public interest, as he tended to deflect inquiries from the press, when they got too close to the truth.
  • kritt11
    Weightman said:

    'Partisanship should cease at the cemetery gates. You only diminish yourself by disparaging good people who didn't happen to share your political principles.'

    I absolutely agree with this. It is petty and meanspirited to celebrate the death or illness of a political opponent. But, at the same time, I'm not going to say that I thought he contributed to the nation's well-being, because that would be a lie.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    Actually I like to ignore hateful hyperpartisans on either side of the spectrum. You only have to read daveinboca's attack on me and on Joe to understand why. Extremists of any kind tend to hyperventilate and exaggerate. There's lots of emotion involved, much of it negative.

    As I said in my earlier post I have lots of problems with how Tony Snow did his job, because it came down to lying to the American people in the name of our current President all too often. But I'd never wish the suffering he's gone through or the pain of his family on someone because of those kind of political differences. Just as I disagreed with Reagan and his worshippers but never felt anything but sympathy for what he and his family had to be going through in his later years.
  • archangel
    Amen, Jim_Satterfield. Amen.

    dr.e
  • kritt11
    Jim S--- exactly.
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