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Obama Hating the Wimminfolk!

CNS News jumped out today with a provocative article titled, Obama’s for Equal Pay, Yet Pays Female Staffers Less Than Males. In it we find a horrible tale of woe, where Obama (who “has vowed to make pay equity for women a top priority if elected president“) has a lower percentage of female employees on his staff and they ear less, on average, than their male co-workers.

On average, women working in Obama’s Senate office were paid at least $6,000 below the average man working for the Illinois senator. That’s according to data calculated from the Report of the Secretary of the Senate, which covered the six-month period ending Sept. 30, 2007. Of the five people in Obama’s Senate office who were paid $100,000 or more on an annual basis, only one — Obama’s administrative manager — was a woman.

This story was immediately picked up on by a number of McCain supporting outlets, such as Redstate, Macsmind, and (unfortunately) our good friend Ed Morrissey at Hot Air. Sadly, this story has more holes in it than a a gross of donuts.

The first, and largest problem with the account is that there is no reference to the relative positions of the employees involved. How long has each been on the team? What experience and education did they bring with them at the time of their hiring? How skillful were they in negotiating their starting employment level? (and, following that, starting pay.) How many compensation reviews have they had?

You’re not going to pay your chief of staff, veteran of four other administrations, the same amount you pay the person who spellchecks the text submitted by your speechwriter. That’s only one of a limitless number of examples I could offer. I made a quick call to the Human Resources person at our consulting firm who told me that the odds of any group of employees that size winding up with the same average pay for men and women would be “virtually impossible.” In other words, either the men or the women will earn more, on average. In Obama’s group it seems to be the men. In McCain’s, the women.

From the Hot Air piece, the second complaint is brought to light, and none too subtly.

McCain, on the other hand, has more women in key positions — and the women on his staff average slightly higher salaries than the men:

Hold the phone and stop the presses. Have I just found the first Republican in favor of employment quotas based on gender? I thought we were all on board with the whole, “best person for the job, regardless of…” mantra? Yet the linked essay seems to imply that McCain is somehow superior to Obama for having more women in key positions?

Be still my heart!

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UPDATE: Following up on e-mails and comments both here and in linked articles, a couple of points:

1. The figures we are a lacking here render any conclusions effectively meaningless. A better measure would be to look for any history of women complaining about unequal pay for equally responsible positions among the staff. Alternately, though it would be very hard to gather the information, we would need a comparison of the missing data on the employment history and starting conditions of each staffer.

2. Obama’s position on the “equal pay” question being bandied about is, in full, the “equal pay for equal work” complaint. You can’t really complain that the chief of staff is making more than a first year staffer who handles e-mails, even if they are of different genders.

3. The original linked article notes that McCain has more women in key, top positions. Combine that with their having a statistical majority… gee. Do you think their average pay would be higher?

  • pacatrue
    Yeah, seems you could have a beef with Obama for not having more women on staff (debatable without more info but legitimate), but the pay thing makes no sense whatsoever until you know the positions of the people at a minimum.
  • Davebo
    Unfortunately Ed Morrissey

    Anb this suprises you how exactly? Like Captain Ed is some objective observer and not as nutty as the folks at Red State?
  • Actually, yes, Dave. Ed is a partisan, no doubt, but he is generally pretty fair minded in my experience.
  • The first, and largest problem with the account is that there is no reference to the relative positions of the employees involved. How long has each been on the team? What experience and education did they bring with them at the time of their hiring? How skillful were they in negotiating their starting employment level? (and, following that, starting pay.) How many compensation reviews have they had?

    Of course, applying those metrics across the board in society at large just about completely negates the broad-brush much-touted pay differences between men and women.
  • runasim
    No, Tully,
    The reliable broad-brush pay differences noted brush across equal positions. Male CEOs vs female CEOs. etc.
    You can't brush the differences away. Not yet.
  • superdestroyer
    I see that the left leaning blogger are not waiting for the election to start making excuses for Senator Obama. His website makes references to women earning 77 cents to every dollar earned by mean. Of course, the reasons for that difference are due to exactly the same excuses that leftist are making for Senator Obama. I guess this is like liberals wanting to end workplace sexual harassment until President Clinton started sexual harassing the hired help and then the definiton of sexual harassment had to change.

    Please, almost all of the bloggers at The Moderate Voice complained that Repubicans made excuses for President Bush that destroyed their credibility If progressive posters do not want to lose their credibility, they should never be making excuses for Senator Obama. If Senator Obama wants women to earn the same as men, he should pay the same. If he wants to allow for differences in position or experience, he needs to adjust his homepage to eliminate the lie that is posted there.
  • I was not a math major, but it seems to me, from reading the original article that the women aren't necessarily doing too bad. There are 33 men and 31 women total. Also, there are only 5 staff members paid above $100,000, only one of which are women. Again, the only math I excel at involves restaurant tips and bill times, but if you were to remove the 5 highest paid staff-members (outliers in this case), wouldn't the pay be more equal? The women may even come out slightly ahead, as the 4 most senior men skew the numbers in the men's favor.
  • is a woman
  • AustinRoth
    Gee, what will it take for some of you to admit the complete bullshit of 'do as I say, not as I do' mindset of the leftg as a whole.

    I bet not one of you defending Obama would have one excuse for McCain if thngs were switched.

    The left has lived by using statistics to prove racism and bias where none exist. Now suddenly they have found the religion of comparative worth when it serves their purpose.
  • christoofar
    Based on the known facts of the article this thread is based on, AR, noone can come to ANY factual conclusion . But thanks for your morning Anti-Lefty Rant anyways.
    And yes, of course you are correct, there is no racism in America.
  • AustinRoth
    I never said there is no racism. I clearly said that statistics have been used to 'prove' racism where none existed, solely on statistical discrepancies that did not take into account non-racist origins for the discrepancy.

    So, what I am saying is that when it fits the left's purpose, statistics alone are proof of racism. When statistics can hurt someone on the left, then statistics alone do not tell the whole story. The usual 'Big Lie' Democratic strategy.

    Heads I win, tails you lose.
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