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Clinton Fatigue: Bill Clinton Lashes Out At Wife Being Treated “Disrespectfully Just For Running” (UPDATED)

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Former President Bill Clinton has raised eyebrows (again) by lashing out at unnamed forces and an unnamed “they” for what he says has been unprecedented disrespect shown to his wife Senator Hillary Clinton in the way she has been treated and being asked to pull out of the Presidential race.

The only problem is: like some other of the former Commander in Chief’s blanket campaign statements or suggestions, his comments don’t quite pass the accuracy test and represent generalizations worded in a way to have maximum negative political impact on Hillary Clinton’s foes.

Political Radar’s piece needs to be looked at it full because it suggests the former President is now painting his wife as the victim of some kind of monolithic effort to derail her campaign and treat her unfairly.

ABC News’ Sarah Amos reports: Former President Bill Clinton in South Dakota today delivered a harsh critique of how his wife has been treated during her presidential bid, telling the crowd that he has “never seen a candidate treated so disrespectfully just for running,” and that, “she will win the general election if you nominate her. They’re just trying to make sure you don’t.”

[UPDATE: CNN's just-out report on this focuses on a comment he made that we missed. The headline: "Bill Clinton: 'Cover up' hiding Hillary Clinton's chances". ]

So that’s it? She is being treated disrespectfully and has never shown any disrespect on the trail to any of her campaign opponents in her speeches, interviews, or campaign ads? And the REAL issue is her running — nothing else? No controversies with back and forths between candidates and their factions about pledged delegates? No controversies with each side arguing about the Michigan and Florida delegations? No controversies during the campaign with people arguing back and forth about whether the Clinton campaign played the race card?

No recent controversy about Hillary Clinton invoking the 1968 Robert Kennedy assassination which many took as her using it as a reason to stay in the race? Hillary first insisted it came up because she thought about Ted Kennedy’s malignant brain tumor, but news organizations later discovered she — and at least one supporter — had said a version of that comment several times before.

There was no controversy over this? If not, why was the Clinton campaign in damage control mode this weekend? Why did the Clinton campaign even now try to blame the Obama campaign for publicizing her comments if it was no big deal?

No controversies about whether it is best for the Democratic party to let this play out through the convention or if the math is not there to instead focus ASAP on defeating presumptive GOP nominee Senator John McCain, the Republican’s one national figure who still is appealing to independent voters and Reagan Democrats? So this has been JUST about getting her out of the race? MORE:

Clinton spent more than six minutes calmly discussing what he called a “frantic effort to push her out” of this race, saying that no one asked Ted Kennedy, Jesse Jackson or Gary Hart to end their presidential campaigns early.

Clinton also spoke against bullying superdelegates to make up their minds, saying, “I cant believe it. It is just frantic the way they are trying to push and pressure and bully all these superdelegates to come out. ‘Oh, this is so terrible: The people they want her. Oh, this is so terrible: She is winning the general election, and he is not. Oh my goodness, we have to cover this up.’”

Who is this “they?” The Obama campaign hasn’t issued statements demanding she pull out. Most of the clamor has come from a) talking heads on TV, b) Democratic militants, and c) bloggers who push and pressure on almost any issue.

Who is “they?” The media? Most straight media reporting doesn’t ask Clinton to pull out. Op-ed writers and columnists may raise the issue Journalists don. Opinionated and yelling heads on cable TV might. Political reporters assigned to the campaigns don’t — but like all GOOD reporters they need to ask candidates questions that are floating around out there. Reporters who don’t ask politicos the touchy questions being asked by the public and others are not doing their jobs.

Speaking to a crowd of about 200 in Fort Thompson, S.D., Clinton seemed slightly subdued during his 30-minute speech, which largely focused on the issues important to the Native American community. As he wrapped up his remarks, a woman in the audience asked him a question about voting for Hillary Clinton.

“If you vote for her and she does well in Montana and she does well in Puerto Rico, when this is over she will be ahead in the popular vote,” Clinton said. “And they’re trying to get her to cry uncle before the Democratic Party has to decide what to do in Florida and Michigan because they are claiming that it only takes 2029 votes on the first ballot to win, and it takes a lot more than that if you put Florida and Michigan back in. Well, they will have to unless we want to lose the election. I mean, look, so there is that that is going on.”

Who is “they”? Unless I’ve missed it, there is no monolithic organization pushing buttons to get her out of the race. There is no “get Hillary out of the race” central staffed with media and political movers and shakers.

If the call is coming from her to get out, it’s coming from individuals — right now, at least.

“She is winning the general election today and he is not, according to all the evidence,” Clinton said. “And I have never seen anything like it. I have never seen a candidate treated so disrespectfully just for running. Her only position was, “Look, if I lose I’ll be a good team player. We will all try to win but let’s let everybody vote and count every vote.’”

We’ve run polls here on this site. Polls continue to be see-saws — and polls VARY in what they show.

The latest Gallup Poll shows Clinton with a solid lead over McCain while Obama would tie. Polls differ.

The latest Rasmussen Reports poll shows Obama tied with McCain, who led slightly in the last poll.

Go HERE to look at a variety of polls showing Clinton versus McCain.

GO HERE to look at a variety of polls showing Obama versus McCain.

If you look at a variety of polls, it’s clear Bill Clinton’s assertion that polls show her ahead is only partially-accurate: SOME polls show her beating McCain, some don’t and some show Obama beating McCain.

But the audiences Clinton addresses don’t have access to the Internet and can’t check his assertions.

Clinton also strongly criticized the media, saying that ever since Iowa they have been against his wife, making him feel as though he was living in a “fun house.”

So the Clintons are now victims.

“If you notice, there hasn’t been a lot of publicity on these polls I just told you about,” Clinton said. “It is the first time you’ve heard it? Why do you think that is? Why do you think? Don’t you think if the polls were the reverse and he was winning the electoral college against Sen. McCain and Hillary was losing it, it would be blasted on every television station? You would know it wouldn’t you? It wouldn’t be a little secret. And there is another Electoral College poll that I saw yesterday had her over 300 electoral votes, yeah. She will win the general election is you nominate her. They’re just trying to make sure you don’t.”

So “they” are out to get her, “they” are hiding polls that show Hillary Clinton could beat McCain (even though if you have a computer you can look at all news stories on Google news HERE and Google web HERE), and the Clintons are victims whose political behavior apparently has been exemplary.

Is this the first campaign in American political history that is trying to triumph by trying to make voters feel guilty and sorry for a candidate?

Hillary Clinton does have a problem: it continues to be her Bill Clinton problem.

If she does get the nomination, Bill Clinton will galvanize the Republican party more than any issue or Hillary Clinton, since it’s clear he will be out on the hustings pushing all of the buttons (”they” are out to get us, we are victims.”)

If Hillary wins, some voters will shudder at the idea of having to listen to Bill Clinton for four (or eight years).

And the Bill Clinton factor probably makes Obama shudder more than The O’Reilly Factor when he considers whether or not to invite Senator Clinton to be his running mate.

For more blog opinion GO HERE.

  • elen
    When Billy Boy was talking out of the other side of his mouth (when his wife still looked like a candidate that might win) he sanctimoniously pontificated : "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen." Follow your own bromides, whinger.
  • Stoft
    Think it was a slip? Same slip 4 times?
    Four days after ABC polled that 59% of Americans feared for Obama's safety, Hillary started talking assassination.
    Hard to believe,
    but this site has the facts and sources: http://zfacts.com
  • StockBoySF
    I believe that either Hill or Obama would win in Nov. So Bill is right about Hill winning if she is nominated.

    As far as her being treated disrespectfully- perhaps some, but I think all the candidates are treated disrespectfully at times. I think Obama is showing a great deal of respect for her by sticking up for her and her right to remain in the race. I can't help but wonder if she would do the same for him if their roles were reversed.
  • Ginny_in_CO
    "“If you notice, there hasn’t been a lot of publicity on these polls I just told you about,” Clinton said. “It is the first time you’ve heard it? Why do you think that is? Why do you think? Don’t you think if the polls were the reverse and he was winning the electoral college against Sen. McCain and Hillary was losing it, it would be blasted on every television station? You would know it wouldn’t you?"

    HUH?? Bill are you totally ignorant of how the MSM works - especially since you signed the telecom bill that let them coalesce into larger, more corporate entities?

    Guilty conscience?

    For several months I have just been countering comments about the Clintons with "A lot of us were NOT happy with Bill and his stupid squandering of the position he was elected to. We would be very happy not to have him any where near the WH"

    From blowing health care reform because of the control attitude, to losing the power of the bully pulpit due to his philandering, I can't think of what they accomplished without thinking of what they undermined (Glass - Steagle) and what they had to abandon due to the constant barage of negative attacks- which caused Bill to follow in Gary Hart's failed footsteps.

    What kills me is that they kept talking about her being 'vetted' and that Barack would end up being trashed as soon as the GOP got ahold of him. That nothing new could be dug up on Hill. Well she managed to generate new ammo. And as many of us anticipated, the old stuff has just been brought out to be recycled ad nauseum.. It's like what we found out with the swiftboaters; you can refute, disprove, and defend til you are blue- the people who want to believe the lies will not be persuaded.

    Hillary has not been treated any worse than she has treated others - over the years.
  • zooom
    Hillary has been given bad media from race to gender, and anything else the media can toss in. I strongly believe that this shows how poorly our country conducts themselves.

    Then we hear from another peanut gallary former President Carter. GEE! and what did he do for this country?

    Since the media played the "race and gender" card to the hilt.

    I keep asking myself, that if we Hillary was a black female running against Obama, would this be happening? Doubt it, the media wouldnt touch that with a 10 foot pole. But she isn't a black female, she is who she is, and once again it shows just how hard it is for any female to compete and have the respect .
    Our country hasn't moved forward at all, it's a mess.
    Obama just isn't ready and if if the people of the USA would just look with better eyes, and stop playing into the smoke and mirror game they would see that she does make more sense then Obama. He has been giving great lip service to everyone, and the media caters to him. How sad.
    Should Obama become the President and doesn't fulfill all these promises he states he is going to do, then what, we will have more sniffles accross the USA and wanting him OUT, but will have to wait another 4 yrs like we had to with the Bush adminstration. I don't believe the USA could with stand this.

    If Hillary isn't on the ballot I will not vote for Obama, I will not vote for McCain either, I will cast it to the wind if I have to, but I will not give it to them.

    I support Hillary Clinton .. hang in there girl.
  • StockBoySF
    Lot's of people do not give Obama the respect he is due. It's just not Hillary that doesn't receive respect from many people.
  • jchem
    Bill Clinton says

    'Clinton also strongly criticized the media, saying that ever since Iowa they have been against his wife, making him feel as though he was living in a “fun house.”'

    I think I would humbly submit that Bill has been living in a "fun house" since Lewinsky, and probably earlier than that even. I see this as pure desperation by people who know its over. Hillary as the victim? You gotta be kidding me. I think Joe has provided several links to throw that claim in the washer. Just go away, HRC!!
  • Joe - I love this site, but you may be reading a bit too much of Andrew Sullivan lately. Bill Clinton's remarks are only noteworthy at this point if they garner media coverage, and it would probably be best NOT to give them that attention. Obama has for all intents completely wrapped up the nomination, so it would be best as a "moderate voice" to instead focus on less divisive stories that help ignite useful debates on issues rather than simply stirring up passions by reporting the latest words of a sleep-deprived campaign grasping at whatever opportunities still remain to it.
  • unclejoe40
    i liked him better when he was too busy to talk cuz he was bonkin everything in a skirt....everything he said in that piece is soooooo untruthful...and im being nice, cuz i dont really wanna call him a frickin liar
  • runasim
    In a contest for first place in fauz outrages, I don't who gtes first prize, Clinton or those piling on him.

    Whether it's Hillary, Bill or anyone else, there is a media (and blog) narrative that feeds on itself and grows to a point where it acquires a parallel reality of its own.

    In the beginning, it was a war between mainstream media,(who were caught up in admiration for Hillary's talents), and many blogs (who threw hissy fits at the mere mention of the Clinton name).

    Now, the media and the antagoistic blogs seem to have joined hands in a united Clinton loathing campaign. That's the 'they' Bill is referring to, I would guess, and I think he is not without cause.

    Have the Clinton's said some reprehensible things? Oh, yes. Sometimes it
    has seemed Hillary is secretly working for McCan's campaign.

    On the other, hand, do the Clintonsa have any reason to believe they would be treated fairly if they played nice? I don't see any evidence of that.

    It's much easier for Obama to appear more noble. That's the role he chose, and that's the role largely upheld in the media and Obama-esque blogs.

    Let any Clinton open his mouth, though, and it seems people don't even hear what was said. The just read from their prpared scripts of outrage. Anyone on the receiving end of this would quite antuarally become a little paranoid themselves and start thinking about 'them' .

    Many of the same people who laid the groundwork for this being an ugly fight are now SHOCKED that it is.

    So, now it's a oog fight, but I don't see any cute puppies I'd care to adopt.

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