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Indiana Primary Vote: Did “The Rush Limbaugh Effect” Carry It For Clinton? (UPDATED)

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Why is the man above smiling? Because, apparently, he has a RIGHT to.

If all goes according to projections and Senator Hillary Clinton somewhat narrowly wins the Indiana Democratic primary (CBS has projected she will narrowly win it), he has a right to smile. Because if early indications are correct, conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh may have provided a textbook case of the influence of radio talk show hosts on partisans in the 21st century.

His “Operation Chaos” — designed to get his listeners to vote whenever they can in Democratic primaries for Clinton to prolong the Democrats’ highly divisive Clinton/Barack Obama Presidential nomination — could have given the Cinton the winning edge, if the victory margin in the end is like what seems to be shaping up now. The New Republic’s The Plank:

Some reporters have speculated about the impact of the “Limbaugh effect” — partisan Republicans crossing over to vote fr Hillary Clinton solely to help weaken the Democrats against John McCain. The sieze of the effect is hard to measure. But there is one numerical measurement, first pointed out to me by the Pew Survey’s Richard Auxier following the Pennsylvania primary, that gives some sense of it.

One exit poll question asks Indiana voters who they would support in a Clinton-McCain contest. 17% of them say McCain. Of those voters, 41% say they would vote for McCain over Clinton. In other words, these voters, 7% of the Indiana electorate, voted for Clinton in the primary but have no intention of supporting her in the fall.

Now, this isn’t a precise measure of the “Limbaugh effect” — no doubt there are some Republicans who backed Obama in the primary out of anti-Clinton sentiment, but plan to vote for McCain in November. But it is a good place to start when making a ballpark estimate. And it’s a sizeable number — 7% may wind up being as big as her margin of victory.


The Huffington Post’s Sam Stein
looks at exit polls and reaches the same conclusion: Limbaugh played a role in motivating some voters whose motive was basically to sabatoge the Democratic primary…something some Democrats have tried in cross-over primaries the past but not on such an organized, sustained and serious scale. Stein’s post must be read full but here are some excerpts:

Did Rush Limbaugh actually impact the Democratic primary?

The loud-mouthed radio talk show host has been encouraging Republicans to vote for Sen. Hillary Clinton to continue the “chaos” in the Democratic race. And a sampling of some key exit poll information suggests he may, to a certain extent, be having an effect.

Thirty-six percent of primary voters said that Clinton does not share their values. And yet, among that total, one out of every five (20 percent) nevertheless voted for her in the Indiana election. Moreover, of the 10 percent of Hoosiers who said “neither candidate” shared their values, 75 percent cast their ballots for Clinton.

These are not small numbers. By comparison, of the 33 percent of voters who said Sen. Barack Obama does not share their values, only seven percent cast their ballots in his favor. Basically, more people who don’t relate to Clinton are, for one reason or another, still voting for her. These are not likely to be loyal supporters.

He goes into some detail then writes:

The numbers suggest one of three things: A) Clinton’s support in Indiana, while clearly there, is not entirely solid; B) a large swath of Indiana primary goers simply didn’t like the nominees and thought of Clinton as the lesser of two evils; or C) Limbaugh’s hatchet plan could be having political ripples.

Perhaps it’s a mix of all three.

Republican partisans will applaud what truly seems to be a Limbaugh success. And his “legend” as someone who can press a button and get followers to do his bidding (or jettison previous beliefs and get with the party line) will grow. Some Hillary Clinton supporters will say Well, what does it matter why they vote the way the do — they have the right to vote as they vote. (Which they do.)

But there is an ineffable stench of political sleaziness when Republicans — and Democrats — decide to cross party lines to sandbag the other party. Who would have ever thought 20 or 30 — or 10 — years ago that partisans of either party would vote in another party’s primary specifically to prolong the other party’s turmoil or weaken that party’s candidate? There have been charges that siphoning off another party’s votes has been used via third parties but this hasn’t been an actual calculated strategy until now. Welcome to mega partisan 2008.

Perhaps when Superdelegates look at these numbers, it might influence their perceptions on the components of the Indiana vote….particularly as Limbaugh starts hyping his impact and if the mainstream media latches on to the story.

P.S. Limbaugh’s power isn’t just because he’s a partisan. He is also a talented, first-class broadcaster who knows how to use the broadcast medium and get and hold an audience. He makes it look easy, and it isn’t — which is why so many other conservative and progressive talk show hosts have failed.

This may be the first vote in which his influence can be measured in qualitative terms.

UPDATES:
–Read Andrew Sullivan.

  • GeorgeSorwell
    Exit polls? The speculation of reporters?

    Limbaugh didn't even have enough influence within his very own Republican Party to determine its nominee.
  • GeorgeSorwell
    Josh Marshall says Clinton has canceled her public appearances tomorrow. If true, maybe not a sign of success for "Operation Chaos".
  • runasim
    To miy mind, there are few things more despicable than attempts to undermine the democratic process in order to spite the other party. Things like Operation Chaos don't just hurt the other party, they undermine the foundations of our government.

    I try hard to find a normal sense of decency in Limbaugh. I find none wahtsoever.
    He really does appear to be an evil man.
    I have no sympathy for voters who go along, or for those who've resorted to other gimmicks, like robo calls, etc.
    They're the ones whose patriotism should be seriously questioned.
  • superdestroyer
    Image what the future will look like when the republican Party collapses and even more republican voters start voting in the Democratic Primary. Between the black vote being a single block and the former Republicans, the rich white elites will have no chance of ever being president. or even Senator in most states.
  • daveinboca
    Of course, the Daily Kos has been urging messing up Republican primaries with absolutely no success. Loathsome motor mouths like Matthews & some whiners on this thread are angry because Limbaugh has about 10 times the audience of ANY Dem TV or radio or other commentator----period.

    Wah Wah Wah. Limbaugh is more thoughtful and interesting than ranters like Keith who spend all their time ranting about their opponent commentators. Rush spends most of his time talking about issues, lucidly & in depth.
  • kritt11
    Except, daveinboca, he skips perspective and accuracy in favor of trashing the left in any way possible---as long as it furthers his far right agenda.

    His listeners, the "dittoheads", worship the ground he walks on, and have long since stopped caring. In the beginning- he was dismissed as a comedian- then he became an entertainer- now many of his 11 million weekly listeners on the right take his unfiltered views seriously.
  • daveinboca
    That's over 20 million listeners off-and-on daily. He is far more accurate than any of the clowns on Air America [with around 500K listeners & dropping.] I listen off-and-on & find him way better than the NBC whack-jobs on cable---Russert is okay, but the rest of the NBC crew are simply rewarded for their inaccuracy and socialist perspective with about a million eyeballs in prime time. CNN isn't much better.

    Hannity is second on radio with around 15 million per day. His miserable sidekick Colmes is actually the top lefty occasionally on radio. Hannity on cable TV has way more than Keith-O, whose "special comments" are unhinged hatemongering.
  • JSpencer
    That pretty well sums it up Kritt. This is the first time I've seen Rush referred to as "lucid" though, which almost made coffee go up my nose.
  • runasim
    Daveinboca,,

    If DailyKos , or anyone else, urges deception or disruption, that is equally reprehensible to me.

    These tit-for-tat games really do corrupt the principles on which this country was founded.
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