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Damned

If Democrats nominate Clinton, young voters will permanently be disenchanted with the Democratic Party and cripple our election prospects for decades (and don’t get me started on the Black vote). But if Democrats nominate Obama, frustrated women may stay home and likewise severely hamper Democratic efforts in the general and subsequent elections.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

  • DLS
    Naturally you get it wrong, again, for the groups will continue to be robotically Democratic. But it's amusing to anticipate the tantrums of whatever group of children (of whatever age) loses their anti-Constitutional reverse-racism-and-sexism "identity politics" race this year. They prove themselves especially stupid if they hand the White House by default, against all odds, to McCain. [snicker]
  • Holly_in_Cincinnati
    If the Democratic Party nominates Barack Obama, it will lose a lot more than "frustrated women."
  • lurxst
    Sorry that the Republicans couldn't find a decent candidate for you this year, DLS. I think the perceived divide between democrat factions is being wholly exploited by a media desperate to remain relevant and of course, Republicans operatives and spinmeisters. I believe that Obama has a better shot at reconciling the party after the nomination but I wouldn't completely rule Clinton out.

    I have to agree with you in that America won't look the same after a McCain presidency.
  • Jim_Satterfield
    I think the lovers of Joe Lieberman have already decided to vote for McCain, Holly. And your constant overstating of the numbers of Democrats who are planning on switching parties and voting for someone even more Republican than Bush is getting really repetitious.
  • bellisaurius
    Point one:Political beliefs may crystalize in one's twenties, but political parties tend to adjust to capture bits and pieces of this over time (otherwise, the elctorate wouldn't change much, which is only somewhat the case).

    Point two: I realize there are real deficiencies over history in the treatment of women and blacks, but in the end, we're electing the president of the US, and the better the US does, the better most citizens will do.
  • superdestroyer
    The thought that while the Republicans are working very hard to make themsleves irrelevant to the political process, that the Democrats could lose some segment of the 20 something vote is laughable.

    No matter who the Democratic Party nominates, it will still have the vast majority of the black, Hispanic, Jewish, immigrant, and Asian vote. The Democratic Party is still going to pick up seats in the Senate and seats in the House.

    What David is really seeing is the future of politics in the U.S. As the Republican Party becomes irrelevant, the real election is in the Democratic Primary. Thus, the Democratic Primary will be hard fought and prolonged.
  • Actually, I do not think women would be as disenchanted as you think. If you look at the polling, Obama has begun to cut into Hillary's lead in that demographic. By the end of this primary, except for a few stubborn sore losers, Obama will have most Democratic voters behind him.
    I do agree though that more Democratic voters will be turned off by politics if Hillary is given the nomination, especially since she has been behind Obama for most of this year in the popular vote and pledged delegates. Hillary getting the nomination would just show that the powers that be don't care about the opinion of the majority of their supporters, only about the status quo and returning favors.
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