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Clinton And Romney Win Nevada Caucuses

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Democratic Senator Hillary Clinton and Republican former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney won Nevada caucuses voting today — wins that give “Big Mo” to both, particularly to Clinton, a candidate whose style and “voice” is a work in progress.

The reason: the Nevada GOP caucus was not hotly-contested, but the Democratic caucus sure was. And it spells big trouble in the Big Mo Department for Senator Barack Obama who needed the win here (and in South Carolina) to show that he could again derail Clinton from her long-perceived front-runner status.

CNN reports:

Sen. Hillary Clinton will win the Nevada Democratic caucuses, CNN projects.

The New York senator led rival Barack Obama by 8 percentage points with about half of the precincts reporting.

That’s an impressive margin — and can’t be spun as a squeaker.

Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards was a distant third.

For all intents and purposes, Edwards’ candidacy is over, except for the belief he and his followers have that (a) he can possibly prevail or (b) there would be a deadlock between Clinton and Obama and he’d somehow fill the void.

In the case of Romney, the New York Times reports:

As the rest of the Republican field focused on the primary in South Carolina, Mr. Romney concentrated some of his campaign’s resources on this state, flying here several days ago for a last-minute push. His rivals overlooked Nevada, largely because state rules do not automatically assign delegates to the winning candidate, unlike in South Carolina, where voters were going to the polls Saturday.

With 38 percent of the electoral precincts reporting, Mr. Romney had 56 percent of the vote, while Senator John McCain and Representative Ron Paul each had 12 percent. Former Gov. Mike Huckabee was running fourth with 8 percent.

Good news for Ron Paul followers: Paul got double digits. Bad news for Ron Paul followers: he remains stuck in the basement and has not emerged as the candidate of disaffected voters.

The fact is: a win is a win, particularly in this campaign season when so many candidates seem to be getting their turns at winning a primary. He (or she) who wins several in a row gets the aura of being more than just a flash in the pan. And Gallup has found that primary results DO influence the perceptions and voting in later primaries.

UPDATES:

The AP says Romney won with the help of the Mormon vote.
Transterrestial Musings is mad because AP says some moderates voted for Ron Paul and decides moderates are badguys:

And frankly, I find people who call themselves “moderate” to generally be people with no firm or coherent political principles whatsoever. All it really means is that they are neither “liberal” or conservative, so the media types find them difficult to pigeonhole. And given the large number of possibilities of positions one can have without being in either of those media pigeonholes, that means that we can’t draw any conclusions whatsoever about them. We need a different word for such people than “moderate.”

(TM: If you read TMV then you know the word is “PERFECT.”)

Marc Ambinder notes that HC won among Hispanics, women and on the point of experience. Anything can happen this year, but based on this data, it doesn’t look good for Obama in the long term.

Jazz Shaw:

Following the events today in Nevada, I’m becoming more and more sure that the “Obama threat” was largely a media creation. Even with the service workers’ union support and floating caucus sites inside of casinos, Clinton looks to handily serve up another defeat to Obama outside the margin of error. And from what I can see, Senator Obama will simply get steamrolled on Feb. 5, 2008. Obama has put up a game fight, and I’m sure he’ll continue the battle, but I no longer see a path to the nomination for him. This leaves me with some difficult choices to face.

For some time now, while not endorsing any one particular candidate, I’ve pretty much been in the position of “anyone but Hillary or Romney.” My memories of Hillary Clinton from her time as first lady, combined with my experiences with her here in New York as one of our two Senators, have left me with more than a bad taste in my mouth. I simply outright don’t want her in the White House.

Dean Esmay:

I see that Clinton and Romney have won in Nevada, which arguably means they both maintain front-runner status. At least, technically, although I still think the odds of a brokered convention for one or both parties is pretty high–and I don’t think that would be a bad thing, by the way.

  • DLS
    *** Y U C K ***

    Hopefully the losers currently bashing the Religious Right and the South will take time out to realize there are elections elsewhere, and will be disappointed about this result in Nevada, and show they have at least some decency and intelligence.

    And no, Clinton is not likeable to those of us who have decency and intelligence, not on KNX, not anywhere, not at any time. Maybe to those whom she is targeting, who are primarily interested in the superficial, but not the rest of us.
  • DLS
    Meet Mitt Romney, new head coach (for PR reasons) of the Dallas Cowboys.
  • Holly_in_Cincinnati
    DLS: Please restrain yourself from insulting our TMV bloggers.
  • cosmoetica
    If Hill and Mitt are the frontrunners and get the noms, it will yet again be evidence of how out of touch the 2 major parties are w America.

    Both are the worst possible candidates each party cd put forth- a real lesser of 2 evils sort. See W & Kerry (over Edwards and Clark), W & Gore (over Bradley), Clinton and Dole (over Kemp).

    I guess the big parties simply do not care about America, nor what the majority of Independents want.

    Someone contact Michael Bloomberg, because if Hill the Chill and the Mittbot win, he'll have a REAL chance to play on Democratic disgust and Republican apathy- the Left will boycott the Chillster and the Evangelicals will snub the Human Oil Slick.
  • StockBoySF
    I agree with cosmoetica re: Bloomberg. I know that if Hillary is nominated then I'm hoping Bloomberg will run because I do not want to vote for any of the current Reps.

    To me there were no surprises with the Dems. I expect Hillary to win NV, with Obama coming in as #2 and Edwards #3. Even though I suspected Edwards would be a distant #3 in NV, I didn't expect him to be as distant as he was- so I guess that's the biggest surprise for me.

    I don't think it's over for Edwards just yet. Two caucuses and a primary do not make an election. Though I think he's probably out after Feb. 5.

    As far as the Reps.- I missed that one. In NV I thought McCain would do better than he did and that RP would do worse. Romney's win doesn't surprise me (except the spread). In SC I didn't expect Thompson to do as well as he did. I thought he would be at the bottom, rather than in the middle.

    Today's results just show how unified the Dems are (two candidates) and how splintered the Reps. are. It'll be interesting to see if Feb. 5 is the same.

    Going back to cosmoetica's comments on Bloomberg- if Obama doesn't get the Dem. nomination, I hope it is evident by Feb. 5 (or shortly thereafter). Bloomberg will need time to gather his forces if he's going to make a serious run. If the Dem. nominee is not determined until the July convention in Denver, then it will be too late for Bloomberg to run.
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