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Clinton Camp Race Tinged Comments Multiply

There are yet more comments coming from the Clinton camp’s supporters that seemingly cast the election in racial terms — comments that if left unchecked could leave New York Senator Hillary Clinton with a difficult problem if she wins the 2008 Democratic Presidential nomination.

The Guardian has this quote:

She is staking out policy ground slightly to the left of Obama on domestic issues, and noticeably won the votes of those on lower incomes and without college degrees. In the words of that Clinton adviser: “If you have a social need, you’re with Hillary. If you want Obama to be your imaginary hip black friend and you’re young and you have no social needs, then he’s cool.”

With advisers who see Obama as a “hip black” and use these words to reporters, Ms. Clinton might consider advancing her staff shake-up. This is inviting a controversy.

And then there’s this perhaps overblown flap which continues to rage:

If you asked the bloggers yesterday, State Attorney General Andrew Cuomo stepped on a rhetorical land mine when he used the racially charged phrase “shuck and jive” while discussing the Democratic presidential primary in a recent radio interview.

Speaking Tuesday to the New York Post’s Fred Dicker, whose show airs on Albany’s Talk 1300 radio station, Cuomo said of the early primaries: “It’s not a TV-crazed race. Frankly, you can’t buy your way through.”

He added later, “You have to sit down with 10 people in a living room. You can’t shuck and jive at a news conference; you can’t just put off reporters, because you have real people looking at you, saying ‘answer the question.’”

The 1994 book “Juba to Jive, a Dictionary of African-American Slang,” says “shuck and jive” dates back to the 1870s and was an “originally southern ‘Negro’ expression for clowning, lying, pretense.”

A truncated version of Cuomo’s quote appeared first on the Albany Times Union’s Capital Confidential blog Wednesday with the claim – later clarified – that he was talking about “Hillary’s win in New Hampshire.”

But Newsday noted that despite the blogocontroversy there was an explanation:

But several sites, including Newsday’s SpinCycle blog, posted updates after hearing from Cuomo.

“The attorney general was clearly saying that Iowa and New Hampshire were important primaries because the candidates could not duck the tough questions,” said Cuomo spokesman Jeffrey Lerner. “He clearly meant no offense to either candidate because he was praising both in the interview. ‘Bob and weave’ would have been a better phrase; that’s certainly all the attorney general meant.”

Joseph Mercurio, a New York City-based Democratic media consultant, said he doesn’t think Cuomo hurt himself seriously. “Everybody’s being a little politically correct,” Mercurio said. “I think he had enough support from black voters in his campaign that this isn’t going to be a big issue.”

Newsday offers this transcript provided to it by Cuomo’s office:

“It’s not a TV-crazed race, you know, you can’t just buy your way through that race … It doesn’t work that way, it’s frankly a more demanding process. You have to get on a bus, you have to go into a diner, you have to shake hands, you have to sit down with 10 people in a living room.

“You can’t shuck and jive at a press conference, you can’t just put off reporters, because you have real people looking at you saying answer the question, you know, and all those moves you can make with the press don’t work when you’re in someone’s living room.

“And I think it’s good for the candidates. I think it makes the candidates communicate in a way that works with real people because you know in a living room right away whether or not you’re communicating. And I think the questions are good and I think the scrutiny is good …”

Even so, it may raise eyebrows by some who wonder if the phrase would come up if Obama wasn’t running.

What continues to be intriguing is that even if that was unintentional (and it appears to be) there is a seeming pattern emerging from the Clinton camp with Obama:

–A top New Hampshire official asks reporters why they don’t run more stories about Obama’s admitted youthful drug use. It becomes a controversy, he resigns.

–Clinton supporter Senator Bob Kerrey several times repeats info about Obama’s Muslim ties and then insists he was only trying to be complimentary when it becomes a huge controversy. He apologizes. But the info has gotten into the news cycle.

–The statement from Guardian about voters who want Obama voting for him because they see him as an imaginary hip black friend (but if they vote for Hillary Clinton it’s a solid vote because they want change)..

–Cuomo’s comment.

Prediction: The Clinton camp may have a tough time getting Obama’s enthusiastic supporters to come out and vote for him on election day if this list gets longer…and there are more race-tinged zingers (intentional or unintentional) aimed his way whether on the stump, by surrogates or by unnamed campaign officials.

  • DLS
    People really are stupid and over-sensitive to the point of neurotically imagined slights nowadays, aren't they? (Then there are the delusional losers who see this as "proof" our society systematically oppresses victims of one PC kind and another...)
  • Idiosyncrat
    Some people really need to get a life...
  • Somebody
    Obama is not a hip black man?
  • Somebody
    Obviously Obama and friends have been dieing to play the race card.
  • DLS
    I wouldn't expect Obama & Co. to play Victim until late in the nomination process. Maybe it's something they can try after Feb 5 if they're far behind.
    The Victim game (fake "sexism" charges) is something that Clinton would be more likely to play than Obama, it appears to me so far.
  • Rudi
    Hillary is just a lieing bit## and cu$$. Is that flaming attack anymore disgusting. This is why many on the rught and Left don't like Hillary. Maybe she can open the SC push-poll and says Obamama has little black babies.
  • DLS
    Actually, Rudi, if she were truly racist, she'd film a campaign commercial that included a glimpse of a Sambo doll. (No holding and beating the doll, no sticking pins in it voodoo-style -- no Saturday Night Live stuff -- just having the doll placed where it could and would be seen.)
  • DLS
    To abuse or stick pins in the doll, she really should get an Obama doll...

    Then Obama can retaliate by being "creative" (heh, heh) with a Hillary doll.
  • Somebody
    See Rudi's attitude is exactly why Im saying that the Democrats are in deep doo doo. If Hillary get the nomination there is very many in the party who will not vote for her. They wont vote for a GOP so they will just stay at home or vote 3rd party.

    Yet those who support Hillary feel the same way about Obama and the GOP. If the GOP plays its cards right. Elects a likeable fellah with moderate overtones not joinned at the hip with the RR..........the election is theres.

    Huckabee?........no. GOP listen up, he might be likeable but a Preacher? Come on. Don't panic now fellas. The Democrats are going to eat themselves and their babies before the primaries are done.
  • Jammer
    DLS and Idiosyncrat have it nailed. All I will add is I heard an African American say HRC couldnt say Obama was naive and irresponsible since that reminded blacks of the way "the man" in the south talked to them. Better toughen up for the GE if you really want Obama to win. I heard one Repub radio person in my city already say Obama needs to be investigated for Muslim and/or terrorist ties. Thats what is headed your way. Better not sweat the small stuff and no need to crap all over each other as Dems for these innocuous and largely misinterpreted bits and pieces (the Cuomo thing was so out of context and misreported it was laughable.). I suggest before people let their heads explode that they read the real text of the statement in its context, and not what someone else said about it. By the time you get it third or fourth hand its usually tripe.
  • DLS
    Obama just got the endorsement of Janet Napolitano (Governor of AZ).
  • kritt11
    I agree with Jammer- the Democrats are acting like cannibals and if it gets too ugly (the direction it seems to be going in now) then they can kiss the presidency goodbye. I like Obama, but his campaign had better develop a much thicker skin.
  • DLS
    The GOP field is weak and these days it seems to me that no matter how self-destructive the Democrats are, they will still win the White House. But then I recall 2000 when Al Gore managed to lose first the debates (giving anti-Dems faint hope), then the election, to the weak desperation candidate George Bush. So, miracles (or catastrophes) can happen!
  • cosmoetica
    Huckabee can beat Hillary, Rudy can't and Romney can't. Neither can Mccain.

    None of them will be able to beat Obama, so R's- pray for Hillary, and watch Somebodty slit his wrists w another R Prez, which would throw his world and racial theories into the crapper.
  • Rudi
    My comment about Hillary is about people who live in glass houses, Hillary's surrogate's are throwing stones. Hillary's house is all glass, with her husband a glass figurine. She needs to take a lesson from Huckabee. The negative attacks will only make her negatives go lower.
  • SaginawJim
    "Obviously Obama and friends have been dieing to play the race card."

    Except that they're not playing the race card, in fact the Obama campaign has been conspicuously silent about all the comments. It's the Hillary campaign that's been issuing one stream of dumb little crypto-insulting comments after another, not just the hip black friend thing but Bob Kerrey's shameless "don't think of Obama as a Muslim Madrassah-raised terrorist aider and abettor, not that *I'd* actually think such unclean thoughts," along with Hillary's top campaign staffers making insinuations about Obama's drug-dealing and so forth.

    And surprisingly, not a peep from the Obama campaign, no race card playing whatsoever, none-- rather, with the Clintons so thoroughly pushing out one such cryptoracist comment after another, the idea is to get the media's attention while of course, ignoring the detail that Obama hasn't responded since people, without bothering to check the facts, might conclude that "Obama is playing the race card just like other Black candidates" and thereby make Obama less appealing for White voters. It's transparent what the Clintons are doing.

    You know, I'm a pale scorch-in-the-sun white independent with Democratic-leaning tendencies who was actually leaning toward Hillary's camp before this. But I won't vote for her. Almost any Republican would thrash Hillary Clinton in the general election-- Huckabee, McCain, any of them. A lot of that will be because moderates and independents will turn away from her in droves, if for no other reason than because of the way that her arrogant campaign insults our intelligence to think that we can't see through them easily.
  • superdestroyer
    The little insulting comments about race should be expected from a group of elite white Democrats who take blacks for granted while going everything they can to avoid them in their regular life. Rememer, the Clinton campaign is full of prep school, Ivy league, all white NGO/law firm/think tank staffers.

    Look at how the elite left treat whites who are religious versus blacks who are religious. Look at how the elite left reacts to white who make poor life choices versus blacks who make poor life decisions.
  • I wish I could agree with those who feel that Obama is staying above the fray. But the Jesse Jackson Jr comments about Clinton's tears, and whether she cried for Hurricane Katrina victims, hardly leaves Obama unsullied.

    If it continues much longer, the Democratic candidates are going to shoot themselves in their proverbial feet. Dumb strategy, all the way around.
  • StockBoySF
    "But the Jesse Jackson Jr comments about Clinton's tears, and whether she cried for Hurricane Katrina victims, hardly leaves Obama unsullied."

    I believe that Obama is doing his best to stay above the fray. Whereas Clinton's (or comments people attribute to her campaign) are pervasive and come from all quarters, I do not see the same on the Obama side.

    As far as Jesse Jackson's comments sullying Obama- that may be, but I think in evaluating the situation you have to consider the source. People who feel passionately about their cause and come out fighting, like Jesse Jackson, will say whatever they believe. It is difficult to keep such people in check (and I wouldn't want to keep them in check anyway). Whereas people like Bob Kerrey are establishment and will do what they are told (meaning Clinton is responsible).

    So I believe there are some people out there who will make anti-Obama comments but you can't necessarily blame Hillary (or the other campaigns), and there are some people out there who will make anti-Hillary comments but you can't blame Obama (or anyone else).

    I think what is important to note is that the snide comments are mostly aimed at Obama. I would LIKE to believe that Obama tries to set a higher standard and most of his supporters follow his lead.

    Whereas Clinton just continues with politics as usual and her supporters follow her lead. Not exactly the "change" I'm looking for in America....
  • StockBoySF
    I don't think Obama is oversensitive. Maybe his campaign and certainly many of his supporters.... but the thing about many of his supporters is that a large percentage are idealistic and love his lofty rhetoric. While they may like Obama's positions, it's the "feel good" part about him that gets them going. So it makes sense to me that a large portion of Obama's supporters would get defensive and seem overly sensitive when opponents go negative. When you feel good about the whole package a candidate has to offer (not just his policies) then any attack on any aspect of that candidate is an attack on the whole. I can counter attacks on my ideas, but if I feel the attack is bringing down my "sunny" state of mind then I become less rational.

    So yeah, people are overly sensitive, but I think this is great- it shows that there are people in the US who feel optimistic. Not that people who aren't overly sensitive aren't optimistic. Rather it just proves that there are all sorts of people out there.
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