Gallup: Romney Narrows Vote Gap After Historic Debate Win So He’s Tied With Obama (UPDATED)


Oct 8, 2012 by



Gallup reports that
Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s widely acknowledged debate victory over what many perceived as an ill-prepared and/or hapless President Barack Obama has now brought the race to a dead heat — erasing a five-point lead Obama had before what has come to be known as Obama’s Debacle in Denver. Gallup also says Romney’s win is “historic”: the most definitive win it has ever measured since it started taking polls on debates.

Registered voters’ preferences for president are evenly split in the first three days of Gallup tracking since last Wednesday’s presidential debate. In the three days prior to the debate, Barack Obama had a five-percentage-point edge among registered voters.


Gallup typically reports voter presidential preferences in seven-day rolling averages; the latest such average as of Saturday interviewing shows Obama with an average three-point edge, 49% to 46%, among registered voters. This Sept. 30-Oct. 6 field period includes three days before the Oct. 3 debate, the night of the debate itself, and three days after the debate.

Even on this basis, the race has become somewhat more competitive compared with before the first debate. Obama held four- to six-point leads in Gallup’s seven-day tracking results in the eight days prior to the Oct. 3 debate.

Gallup says this debate win is “historic”:

An Oct. 4-5 Gallup poll finds roughly two in three Americans reporting that they watched the Oct. 3 debate, similar to what Gallup measured for each of the three 2008 presidential debates. Those who viewed the debate overwhelmingly believe Romney did a better job than Obama, 72% to 20%. Republicans were nearly unanimous in judging Romney the winner. But even Democrats rated Romney as doing a better job than Obama, 49% to 39%…

….Gallup has assessed opinion on who did better in most past presidential debates; some of these polls were conducted the night of the debate with pre-recruited samples of debate watchers immediately after it concluded, and some were conducted with more general samples of Americans in the days that followed the debate. Across all of the various debate-reaction polls Gallup has conducted, Romney’s 52-point win is the largest Gallup has measured. The prior largest margin was 42 points for Bill Clinton over George H.W. Bush in the 1992 town hall debate.

Its bottom line:

The first presidential debate went decidedly in Romney’s favor. The debate appears to have affected voters to some degree, given the narrowing of the race in the three days after the debate compared with the three days prior. Still, the impact was not so strong that it changed the race to the point where Romney emerged as the leader among registered voters. Rather, at least in the first three days of Gallup tracking after the debate, the race is tied.

But even that small movement is significant, given the competitiveness of the race throughout this presidential campaign year and the fact that debates rarely transform presidential election races.

However, the generally positive unemployment report released on Friday may serve to blunt some of Romney’s post-debate momentum.

In any case, with a month to go before Election Day, the outcome of the 2012 presidential election is still very much in doubt. That certainly raises the stakes for both candidates in the next two debates, Oct. 16 in Hempstead, N.Y., and Oct. 22 in Boca Raton, Fla.

First Read puts the current political scene and polls into context:

*** Has the race changed? We all assume that the presidential contest has changed following last week’s debate between President Obama and Mitt Romney. The most recent sign: Gallup’s daily tracking, which had Obama up 50%-45% among registered voters in the three days before the debate, but shows the race tied 47%-47% in the three days after. But to see if the race has truly changed, we’re awaiting battleground-state polls conducted over the weekend through today — to fully let the debate, job numbers, and everything else sink in. The body language from both campaigns suggests that the race did change; you’re seeing 1) a more confident Romney camp and 2) an Obama campaign with a greater sense of urgency. And if the upcoming polls show this, it will give Team Romney another shot in the arm, just like Obama got after the conventions. But it’s also very possible that the race hasn’t fundamentally changed, but simply tightened and is back to where everyone thought it would be six months ago. Where are the battleground states, polling wise by the end of this week? Is Ohio a margin-of-error contest, or is the president still ahead by 4-6 points? What about Wisconsin? Iowa? These are the three states where Romney had fallen far behind and needed to make up the most ground.

A Huffington Post updated chart of polls shows how close the race is now — with Obama barely ahead:

Meanwhile, it’s now reported that Obama was not good a lot of time in his debate preps and some aides were worried as soon as they landed in Denver.

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9 Comments

  1. ShannonLeee

    It is a well deserved bump for Romney. The battleground states have seen some movement, but nothing that can’t be fixed by Obama actually showing up for the next debate.

  2. djshay

    Today’s Gallup shows Obama 50 and Romney 45. 7 day rolling average and today Obama is up 1 and Romney down 1.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx

  3. I don’t believe any Presidential Election polling numbers. Many partisans don’t believe them until they are in their guy’s/gal’s favor (said many times). And they way they gather the data, the whole “equal probability of selection” idea that pollsters use cracks me up. People are complex systems that can say and do whatever, whenever. That in itself puts polling in the category of state lotteries.

    Actually I would put more stock into polling if it wasn’t for that pesky thing known as the electoral college. Blah…

  4. ShannonLeee

    dj, Joe does sometimes respond, but like the other admins here, he has a job and is very much involved in american politics.

    T, the national numbers are almost worthless. You can get some trending out of them, but it is the state polls from reputable agencies that are reliable. RCP has seen a serious increase in conservative polling agencies that have no business getting national consideration. Ras leans right, PPP leans left… they lean, but they have value. These new agencies are a joke.

  5. Rambie

    DJ, I’ll agree with what other have said. Joe and other authors here are busy but do sometimes respond. The added value of TMV is us thoughtful readers of TMV who comment and have discussions. Though it’s more quiet around here than it used to be during past elections. I do miss the old debates we’d have in the past.

    T-Steel, I wouldn’t totally dismiss polling but always take them with a grain of salt. Nate’s 538 site is pretty good for tracking.

  6. slamfu

    It seems to me that Romney can put his foot in his mouth, dodge questions, promote historically awful fiscal policies, obfuscate on his taxes, and gets one thing right, albeit a big thing(debate win), and the voters just forget this is the man who wanted credit for the auto industry turnaround after he stated we should have let the chips fall where they may? I don’t get it. He’s still that guy. His ideas are bad, his proposals should be taken as a warning, like the jolly rogers on a pill bottle to indicate danger. Will America gleefully swallow a poison pill just because they are tired of the gruel they’ve had to eat the last 4 years?

  7. dduck

    slam, what’s so unusual is the Obama didn’t show up.

  8. emily16

    Noted Lincoln expert believes Obama won the first presidential debate.

    Most pundits, left and right, say Romney won the first presidential debate. But not Gene Griessman, author of Lincoln and Obama, a new book that examines similarities between the 16th and 44th presidents.

    Griessman sees a parallel between the Lincoln-Douglas debates in 1858 and the 2012 debate between Obama and Romney.

    Here are Griessman’s comments:

    The debate formats and issues were different, but there are striking similarities.

    For one, a lot of people thought Douglas won those debates. We revere Lincoln today, and want to believe that Lincoln demolished Douglas. But that was not the perception at the time.

    Stephen Douglas was a feared and formidable debater–confident and powerful. Even when Douglas misstated facts, or when an opponent landed a blow on him, Douglas didn’t show it.

    History has repeated itself.

    Here’s the bottom line: Virtually all Americans have already made up their minds. No Obama haters have decided to vote for Obama because of the debate, and no Obama supporters have decided to vote for Romney because Romney had a good night.

    Obama may not have gained any votes, but he said nothing that will cost him votes.

    So, the only change will be among those who have not yet made up their minds–moderates and independents, many of whom love public television and public radio. Those are votes that Romney needs, and a new issue that he does not need.

    Gene Griessman is a sociologist and creator of a one-man play “Lincoln Live.” An excerpt from the book and additional similarities are at http://www.lincolnandobama.com.

  9. SteveK

    Journalism no longer exists.

    Former journalists are now just a bunch of monkeys looking for attention with another BS story line… truth be damned.

    I can imagine the shame of those who used to be proud of their profession.