Here We Go Again: Another Cain ‘Affair’? (UPDATES)

The Washington Post reports:

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain rebutted charges on Monday that he had a 13-year affair with Ginger White, who he said was just a friend. The charges will air on an Atlanta TV station at 6 p.m Monday evening, and arrive on the heels of four women accusing the former Godfather’s pizza CEO of sexual harassment in the 1990s.

“It was pretty simple,” White said. “It wasn’t complicated. I was aware that he was married. And I was also aware I was involved in a very inappropriate situation, relationship.”

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UPDATE:

The businesswoman, Ginger White, who claims that she had a 13-year affair with Herman Cain appeared on Fox News in Atlanta today.

According to the New York Times, to prove her assertions, White said that “she had records of 61 phone calls or text messages to or from a number starting with the area code 678 that she said was Mr. Cain’s number.”

She also said that she met Cain in the late 1990s in Louisville, Ky., and that they often stayed together at the Ritz-Carlton in Buckhead, Ga. And that “the physical affair ended eight months ago.”

More from the New York Times:

“It was pretty simple,” Ms. White told the station. “It wasn’t complicated. I was aware that he was married. And I was also aware I was involved in a very inappropriate situation, relationship.”

Fox said that it texted the number Ms. White gave them and that Herman Cain returned the call. Fox said Mr. Cain said he “knew Ginger White” and that she had his number because he was “trying to help her financially.”

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UPDATE, Nov. 29:

Less than 24 hours after Ginger White alleged that she and Cain had carried on a 13-year extramarital affair — one the Cain has denied — the pizza CEO is now reassessing whether to remain in the presidential race.

The Washington Post:

Businessman Herman Cain told senior members of his campaign this morning that he is reassessing whether to remain in the Republican presidential race.

One adviser said Cain is expected to make a decision by the end of the week.

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Author: DORIAN DE WIND, Military Affairs Columnist

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  1. The obvious question is why should we care about this? The guy’s a terrible candidate on his own (lack of) merit without playing the politics of personal destruction.

  2. Perhaps we should “care about this” because only a few weeks ago this guy who is now called “a terrible candidate” was the Republicans’ gift from God, and had it not been for the so-called politics of personal destruction,” aka numerous sexual harassment accusations and now a 13-year affair (denied by “this guy”), could very well have been the Republican nominee for President of the United States and perhaps even become our next President.

    Now, if all these accusations prove to be false, why should “this guy” now be a “terrible candidate.” What has changed?

    Now, you may have always thought that this guy was a terrible candidate, but millions of Republicans thought he was the greatest gift to mankind. What has changed for these millions? Are they so easily persuaded by all these “unwarranted attacks”?

  3. I think the sexual harassment accusations are fair game for criticism, but this is not sexual harassment. Why do you think this affair between two consenting adults is anyone’s business but the involved parties and their spouses? You answered the question – because he’s a Republican.

    Cain is a terrible candidate due to his lack of knowledge and experience, not because he had an affair.

  4. Not only is he Republican’s gift from God but apparently he’s God’s gift to women.

  5. DG:

    Let me just state my personal opinion on this and leave it at that.

    Yes, consensual affairs between consenting adults, married or unmarried, are private affairs, “not anyone’s business” — until the hypocrisy factor comes in.

    I.e. condemning gays and other lifestyles, pontificating the sanctity of marriage, family values, etc., etc. while at the same time trampling those very same principles and values and while legislating against those or demonizing those of different (or similar) persuasion.

    I believe we have been through this umpteen thousand times, and I’ll leave it at this umpteenth-thousand-and-one time.

    Just my opinion, take it or leave it. I thank you for yours.

    Edited to change “flaunting” to “trampling”

  6. in this case the hypocrisy goes both ways. Republicans judge and condemn people for the very behaviors they engage in themselves, while Democrats preach tolerance but can’t wait to judge and condemn as well.

  7. Stockboy: “Not only is he Republican’s gift from God but apparently he’s God’s gift to women.”

    you’re funny.

    just my .02, I suppose some women are attracted to a well dressed guy who brags alot in public. But, many vital and lively women prefer the thrill of seeing swagger go on in private in the bedchamber … without or with the fine clothes on… and NOt in public. ok ok, I go back to my room now. lol.

  8. I keep wondering why all this effort to make Cain look viable? Seriously, the trend with these types of allegations and such has not been to damage someone’s electoral chances, but to ENHANCE them. (think of it as electoral viagra).

    The constant drumbeat fascination with Edwards, and the dead-horse-in-a-blue-dress Clinton years must’ve taught someone SOMETHING about how these things tend to pan out.

    The way to kill a candidate’s chances, is to stop talking about them entirely-this is kind of the opposite, and it’s lending Cain more stature than he’s likely earned.

  9. I thought the precedent for sex in the oval office was already set by a Democrat? So why the big beef with a leader that has a big…libido?

    This is nothing. Far better to attract attention to his lack of memory than his lack of embarrassment.

  10. Man, it has been entertaining watching conservatives around here jump from one bandwagon to the next. They aren’t totally at fault. It is usually smart to jump off of a burning bandwagon.

    It will be interesting to see how things go with Newt….that bandwagon has already been burnt to the ground and most conservatives around here are well aware of it.

    It appears that Huntsman is the intelligent conservatives last refuge. Has he yet to poll above 5?

  11. Apparently Cain’s ego is so outsized he has no problem wasting the time of all those who swooned for him. If I’d been one of those folks I’d be a mite ticked off by now. A democrat by the name of Edwards similarly took a lot of his supporters for a ride – until reality came knocking.

  12. DaGoat-

    I think you are right. For social liberals they seem like hydroponic hypocrites. Their objectivity regarding Sexual Morality is all wet. Remember it was Bill Clinton that started this mess and it will probably be somebody like Mit Romney that will finish it. After that, the White House will be transformed into a Roman Orgy Palace. Free night for three political donations. The Arabs are going to go flipping nuts, but at least we’ll soon get all their oil money.

  13. @Allen – I want to think you are being sarcastic, but I don’t know. If serious, that’s fever swamp dreams, right there.

    As for the debasing the White House meme – everyone defaults to Clinton, but no one really seems to notice that we have a successful, family values man, happily married with good kids, a successful wife already in the place. And he happens to be Black.
    Instead of being looked to by the right as an example of how anyone can to rise to the top, and how he can be a role model to the black community, he’s called a Kenyan, Muslim, Marxist anti-american – all while evincing values that we all should be proud of.
    Makes you wonder, or it should.

  14. doubter444:

    Thank you for your insightful comment.

    While some — probably many — will disagree with your “successful” attribute (I happen to fully agree), I don’t think many can argue about the other part: “[a]family values man, happily married with good kids, a successful wife already in the place. And he happens to be Black.”

    That’s why I just can not comprehend that so many have been taken in by this –yes, successful business man –clown who can only say 9-9-9 and nein-nein-nein to the almost insurmountable accusations of sexual harassment and adultery. Just saying

  15. ” Remember it was Bill Clinton that started this mess”

    This is hilarious. Powerful men have been using their positions to get into the pants of any and every woman they want since the dawn of the human race. Clinton’s case may have been the first time the boys club in Washington decided it might be advantageous to turn against each other in the game of “To the Victor Go the spoils”, but pretending that Clinton was the originator of the idea is pretty silly. Hence: where we are today — sorry Newt, Cain, the GOP opened the can of worms (rightly or wrongly) by making consetual sex a political issue, so here we are.

  16. doubter for for for…what?

    Yes of course we have a fine President. But that does not mean that any darn thing Herman Cain is accused of is true. Just accusations by politically motivated people.

    Not to mention that the first to bring sexual shame to the Oval office was a DEMOCRAT. A badge of dishonor we must wear FOREVER. Thanks to people like you who play the whole sorted filth down and that is why Hillary can NEVER be president.

  17. roro

    Not in the Oval office….on the desk. The sacred desk!

    The Clintons destroyed the honor of the Presidency and turned it into a porn show….for ego’s stroke.

    Your arguments are irrelevant in a moot kind of way. More like self-hating hyperbole.

  18. Dorian…you have missed the boat.

    Surely you don’t think I was ever serious about supporting Cain beyond the primary? I’m a Democrat registered as a Republican.

    Good grief just how old are you anyway?

  19. Oh, I’m going to hate myself in the morning for piling on, but I couldn’t resist with my first time EVER agreeing with Allen.
    We were in Borneo and a travel agency owner showed me a fake U.S. dollar with a picture of Clinton engaged in his famous act with Monica. Same trip, in Istanbul taking a boat, the captain asked if I knew Monica Lewinsky. We were embarrassed, needless to say, and had not voted for him.

  20. Allen –

    That’s really interesting logic you have going there. First, my guess is that the hallowed halls of the White House have been defiled far before Clinton. Again, this so is not new.

    And your idea that it was Clinton who brought the dirty little secret to light is laughable. Havng sex is one thing, and I certainly don’t give him a pass for it — but the porn show was all Newt, all the time.

    And I know your CAPS LOCK OMG statement this has anything to do with whether or not Hillary could be president is also super silly.

    I think what Clinton did was reprehensible and creepy on a personal morality sort of level. I don’t think he should have been impeached for it, and I certainly don’t think he was anywhere near the first to filander as a man in power.

  21. For the record, I find it sad and telling that it has not been Cain’s total lack of anything resembling qualifications for the office of president, nor his truly horrendous ideas about policy, nor his lack of knowledge of just about everything, nor even his serial sexual harassment and likely sexual assault that has finally disqualified Cain in the eyes of the GOP, but a consentual sexual affair. I’d be pissed off if I was his wife or family, and there’s certainly something to say about hypocrisy, of course, but really, this is quite the least of his sins.

  22. Duck

    I feel your shame.

  23. @roro

    I find it sad and telling that it has not been Cain’s total lack of anything resembling qualifications for the office of president, nor his truly horrendous ideas about policy, nor his lack of knowledge of just about everything, nor even his serial sexual harassment and likely sexual assault that has finally disqualified Cain in the eyes of the GOP, but a consentual sexual affair.

    That is exactly the most important message to take from this, not the “tee hee, Cain had an affair” tack that many have taken.

  24. DG says:

    “@roro

    I find it sad and telling that it has not been Cain’s total lack of anything resembling qualifications for the office of president, nor his truly horrendous ideas about policy, nor his lack of knowledge of just about everything, nor even his serial sexual harassment and likely sexual assault that has finally disqualified Cain in the eyes of the GOP, but a consentual sexual affair.

    ==

    That is exactly the most important message to take from this, not the “tee hee, Cain had an affair” tack that many have taken.”

    Like Cain’s total lack of qualifications, his truly horrendous idea about policy –especially foreign affairs — his lack of knowledge of just about everything have not been discussed at nauseam here and all over the media!

    The sexual harassment charges and the affair allegation are just, as has been repeatedly said, the final nails on the coffin that finally made even his most rabid supporters realize that this guy is a loser. (And, yes, there are Democratic losers, too)(And, yes, Democrats “do it” too) (And no one is hee-heeing that this sanctity-of-marriage hypocrite has hurt his family so much. However,some may be hee-heeing that this clown has managed to fool so many Republicans for so long)

  25. Hi Dorian –

    Yes, those issues were discussed, but really they were all dismissed and defended by those in the position to give him the nomination, the Republican base. Certainly his policy positions and lack of knowledge was plainly clear long before his rise in the polls. The point I was trying to make is that the priorities of people who stood by him when he was blathering about 9-9-9 and Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan or even when allegations of aggressive *non*consentual sexual encounters came out, but are now abandoning him due to this affair, are really messed up.

  26. Hi roro:

    I agreed with you on your previous comment and I agree with your latest.Looking back, I guess I did not express myself that clearly and focused too much on DG’s “tee hee,” since the infidelity issue becomes very aggravating to me when one considers the holier-than-thou, family values, sanctity of marriage claims made by this hypocrite (Cain, that is).

    We are good.

  27. Dorin-

    Well Dorian if Dumbo Ronnie Raygun can be President, anybody can be President.

    Herman Cain is fully Qualified by the Reagan curve and thus should be afforded equal opportunity. Unless your reservations stem from latent racism, then we might have to re-evaluate the veracity of your objections to a Herman Cain Presidency.

    …and since you have not one iota of proof of Cain’s supposed “infidelity” and that you have already convicted him on circumstantial evidence, I suspect that the former assesment is true rather than your comments about his qualification.

  28. “and since you have not one iota of proof of Cain’s supposed “infidelity””

    Still with this, eh? Not to mention, of course, that Dorian was saying the infidelity was the nail in the coffin. Meaning Cain’d still be dead (metaphorically, of course), if there were no infidelity at all. That’s what that term means.

  29. Thanks, roro.

    Talking about nails, you hit the nail right on someone’s head.

  30. No proof. Just wacky women making wacky accusations.

    …here we go loop de loop….

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