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Five Things We Learned from Tuesday’s GOP Debate

CNN offers us the five things we learned from last night’s feisty GOP debate:

Why 9-9-9 was No. 1: A rise in the polls brings more scrutiny, so we knew that Cain’s “9-9-9″ tax plan would come under attack from his rivals. And we didn’t have to wait long for the full frontal assault….

…..Romney gave as good as he got: We knew Romney would be under the microscope, but the attacks from his fellow candidates seemed a bit more vicious in Las Vegas. Call it a Wild West shootout along the Strip, with Romney the target…

….Romney gave as good as he got, but the fact that “RomneyCare” keeps coming up must be frustrating for him and a concern for his campaign.

...Rick Perry finally woke up: Perry’s poor debate performances over the past month are a major reason why he’s faded in national polling. The Las Vegas debate may be the moment when he started to turn things around..

….Rick Santorum’s the fighter: He’s low in the polls and he isn’t rich with campaign cash, but Santorum’s excelling at going on the attack and grabbing attention at the debates…

...Immigration questions not going away: This was supposed to be an election about jobs and the economy, but the topic of illegal immigration continues to rear its head on the campaign trail and in debates.



12 Responses to “Five Things We Learned from Tuesday’s GOP Debate”

  1. malcontent says:

    1. We need tax overhaul…maybe not his one.

    2. Romney proved he is the only one capable of beating Obama.

    3. Rick Perry cannot put together an easy flowing, complete sentence and after memoriazed talking points, cannot speak extemporaneously.

    4. Rick Santorum comes accross as someone who would squeal on this friends to get what he wants or where he wants to go.

    5. Our Prez won’t seriously address immigration and his gameplan for jobs won’t make it out of Congress due to cost to implement. Perry’s plan to open up federal lands and start weaning ourselves from the Middle East and put 1.2 million people to work is a vaible one, but no one is talking about it. Weird.

  2. Quelcrist Falconer says:

    Perry’s plan to open up federal lands and start weaning ourselves from the Middle East and put 1.2 million people to work is a vaible one, but no one is talking about it. Weird.

    You really should pay more attentions to comments, it was pointed out last week in the comments that if we sucked every drop of oil in our proven reserves, we would have three years worth of consumption, if we pulled every drop out of our prospective reserves we would have twenty odd years of consumption at current rates.

    In other word Perry’s plan to open all federal lands for oil exploration is at best a band aid on sucking chest wound, or a very bad joke.

    If you want to wean the US of foreign Oil, start taxing gas at a couple of hundred percent($8 to $10 a gallon) use the revenue to kill the ex-burbs, fix up the inner burbs, do some urban planning and put some functional mass transit systems in place.

  3. JSpencer says:

    What with Plan 999 from Outer Space, Perry’s newfound pugilistic streak, and Mitt’s cracking veneer, Obama has to be smiling. The debate provided some entertainment value, but not much in the way of anything even vaguely presidential.

    Also I agree with QF’s comment. It’s long past time to take the long view, that is if we actually give a crap about whether future generations live in an environment that’s actually worth living in.

  4. wesleypresley says:

    Eight clowns in a Republican car more than willing to drive the USA off a cliff.

  5. malcontent says:

    Wow, Casualobserver…a voice of reason. Where did you come from?

    And Falconer… I have no idea what “comments” you are referring to which proves that there is only 20 years of recoverable hydrocarbons underneath us. All I can tell you is that you are mistaken. If you are talking about oil, gas and coal, you are terribly wrong.

    And JSpencer…if 1.2 million jobs were created by opening up federal lands to drilling and mining; and if we used the oil for short term to bridge us to replacing more refined oil products with natural gas; and if we used this bridge time to develop more affordable alternative energy sources, would you still be opposed to it? In light of our current economic condition?

    If so, what do you propose right now that will create 1.2 million jobs without government subsidies covered by increased taxes, borrowed money or printed money; stabilize the cost of fuels we depend on; keep cost of electricity from skyrocketing; and keep us from totally going under? We are all looking for reasonable alternatives. No one else has presented one. I’m turning to you.

  6. Allen says:

    WE NEED MORE TAX!

    Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 is a perfect start.

    Though CNN poorly managed the debate, or, clown fight depending upon your preferred managerial style, Herman Cain saw the crapolla coming and wisely retreated in good order to avoid the slaughter.

    My friends…THAT…is proper executive behavior! To know when to back-off should not require Yosemite Sam spinning in circles blasting six-shooters. I’m surprised Romney and Perry didn’t end up in fist-a-cuffs and Santorum dragged out in handcuffs! Poor Ron Paul couldn’t squeak out complete sentence for all the mouthy intruders! Ladies and gentlemen, there is no other GOP candidate worth the title except HERMAN CAIN!

    So what did America learn from this God-awful mess Mr. Anderson Cooper, because YOU were in charge?! I’ll tell you what they learned: They learned that Michelle Bachman had made some of the most coherent responses and you didn’t even mention her name, Mr. Joe Gandelman! They learned that CNN is trying to sabotage the GOP run for the Presidency with their withholding of the master of ceremony primacy. They learned that making a point requires more than a minute and a rebuttal more than 30 seconds especially when the debate master just stands there with a, “ what do I do now”, goofy smile as the ship grounds itself.

    Most of all. Most emphatically of all. Most stupendously OF ALL…

    HERMAN CAIN WAS THE WINNER!

    …and with that, I’m ordering pizza.

    Give Pizza a chance.

  7. Quelcrist Falconer says:

    I have no idea what “comments” you are referring to which proves that there is only 20 years of recoverable hydrocarbons underneath us. All I can tell you is that you are mistaken. If you are talking about oil, gas and coal, you are terribly wrong.

    Oil Reserves in the US

    Proven oil reserves in the United States are 21 billion barrels (3.3×109 m3), excluding the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. The U.S. Department of the Interior estimates the total volume of undiscovered, technically recoverable prospective resources in all areas of the United States, including the Federal Outer Continental Shelf, the 1002 area of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, the National Petroleum Reserve–Alaska, and the Bakken Formation, total 134 billion barrels (21.3×109 m3) of crude oil.[1][2] This excludes oil shale reserves, as there is no significant commercial production of oil from oil shale in the United States.

    US Oil Consumption

    U.S. Petroleum Consumption
    19,148,000 barrels/day

    21,000,000,000/(19,148,000 * 365)=3.005 years.

    Basic math.

    Best case scenario:

    134,000,000,000/(19,148,000 * 365)=19.7 years

  8. malcontent says:

    Sorry, Falconer, your wrong. I will just mention that we are not talking about just crude oil…we’re talking about massive reserves of cleaner burning natural gas and even larger coal reserves.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/10/new-report-says-u-s-has-largest-fossil-fuel-reserves-in-world/

  9. Quelcrist Falconer says:

    New report says U.S. has largest fossil fuel reserves in world

    The report estimates that the U.S. has 163 billion barrels of recoverable oil

    Assuming the 163 billion barrels is accurate,

    163,000,000,000/(19,148,000 * 365)=23.3 years.

    All the coal in the world is not going to fuel your car, the only two countries that have ever converted coal into liquid fuel were Nazi Germany during the war and Apartheid South Africa while it was being embargoed, that should give you a hint as to how clean, efficient and cheap it is to convert coal into a liquid fuel.

    As for natural gas, the numbers that count are the proven reserves, according to uncle Sam as of 2009 the US had 283.9 trillion cubic feet. The US consumed 23 Trillion Cubic feet of natural gas in 2010.

    U.S. Crude Oil, Natural Gas, and Natural Gas Liquids Reserves

    The only number that counts is the proven reserves, any thing else is pure wishful thinking.

    BTW getting all that natural gas that has to be fracked will very likely destroy the water tables. Is it worth corporate America making a few bucks taking the gas out the ground and leaving the local farmers and inhabitants without potable water?

  10. malcontent says:

    Can you supply links to your sources of info? Maybe data that is up to date?

    Coal is used to produce cheap electricity in its natural state.

    I live on top of the Barnett Shale which has been producing frac’d NG for years now w/o major problems.

    We’re talking about putting people to work now w/o bankrupting our country and hanging massive debt around our grandchildren’s necks.

  11. Allen says:

    Mal-

    Proof that carbon based energy is sucking the life out of our planet. It must be put aside for alternative fuels. I know you don’t want to hear this, but I think you will agree after seeing proof.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRtymuRMZiE&feature=related

  12. Quelcrist Falconer says:

    Can you supply links to your sources of info? Maybe data that is up to date?

    All the numbers that I have used have come from the US Energy Information Administration

    I live on top of the Barnett Shale which has been producing frac’d NG for years now w/o major problems.

    You obviously haven’t been paying attention.
    Texas Property Owners Blame Barnett Shale Fracking for Water Woes

    Shortly after hydraulic fracturing began on two natural gas wells bordering their property, Catherine and Brett Bledsoe said their water began to sting their eyes in the shower, and their animals refused to drink it. According to the National Resource Defense Council, testing the Bledsoe’s paid for found benzene in their well water. The levels found were double what the US Environmental Protection Agency considers safe.

    The second incident occurred on property belonging to Larry Bisidas, who says that water from two of his wells have turned to brine since fracking started nearby. Apparently a layer of salt water sets beneath the Trinity aquifer that provides fresh water to his wells. Bisidas, who’s worked drilling water wells in the area for four decades, said if gas well is not sealed deep enough, salty water will push upward and contaminate the fresh, upper layer. He also said he’s seen similar problems involving other Wise County water wells.

    North Texas Misery Blamed on Barnett Shale Fracking Boom

    According to the Chronicle, Dish, with a population of just 200, is home to three metering stations, more than 20 major gas gathering pipelines and 11 compression plants stationed within the two square miles of the town limits. An estimated 1 billion cubic feet of natural gas flows through these facilities. Other Dish residents have complained of nosebleeds, pain, and poor circulation since the first compressor station was built in their town in 2005. As we’ve reported in the past, the air around Dish was found to contain high levels of the cancer-causing chemical benzene. While no one has been able to prove a direct connection, many in Dish believe natural gas drilling is to blame for the town’s suffering.

    As we’ve reported in earlier articles, Dish Mayor Calvin Tillman is among those who have left the town over concerns that natural gas drilling pollution was poisoning his family. He put his Dish home on the market in September, and according to the Chronicle, closed the sale last month. He and his family now live in a nearby town

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