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(UPDATED) Rick Perry: Ultra-Extremism In A Ten-Gallon Hat


It takes balls to execute an innocent man ~ PERRY SUPPORTER

When Barry Goldwater, in accepting the 1964 Republican presidential nomination declared that “extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice,” the conservatism he represented bore scant resemblance to the extremism of 2012 GOP wannabes Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, whose singular talent appears to be really pissing off people about other people.

Bachmann, of course, is a known quantity whose record of nuttiness pretty much rules out her being the nominee, let alone a vice presidential running mate. Perry, however, is something of an unknown quantity so it will take a while for his extremism to percolate through the body politic.

An aspect of that extremism is the way Perry flaunts his personal faith and intermingles it with his duties of Texas governor, and he recently called on the power of prayer to end the drought that has seared much of the state. Perry is a Methodist, a faith that preaches inclusiveness, but he believes that Jesus Christ is the one true savior and has excluded Jews, Muslims and other faiths from prayer-based events.

None of this may prevent Perry from getting the nomination considering the power of the party’s fundamentalist base and that Mitt Romney, the one-time frontrunner, has been refusing to take presidential-like stands on the issues, most recently his cowardly inability to say anything of substance about the federal budget deficit debacle. Meanwhile, Sarah Palin probably has underplayed her hand — witness her absence from tonight’s Iowa debate — and may find herself out of the race before she is even in.

Perry’s trump card, to the extent that he has one, is the economy. He can point to his record of creating jobs in Texas through promoting a business-friendly environment, but most of those jobs are for cheap labor.

Nevertheless, it’s hard to see the national economy improving sufficiently when the presidential campaigns kick off in earnest 13 months from now to become a non-issue. But President Obama has a trump card, as well, and that is Perry’s extremism, of which religious fundamentalism is the keystone and a huge turn-off for the majority of voters from whom religion is an important part of their lives but don’t persistently flaunt their godliness in public.

Regardless of the state of the economy, it is hard to see Perry drawing sufficient Independent support. Besides which, we all know what happened the last time a Texas governor was elected president.



23 Responses to “(UPDATED) Rick Perry: Ultra-Extremism In A Ten-Gallon Hat”

  1. superdestroyer says:

    The idea that the presidential eleciton will be heating up Next September is laughable. The election will be over by the end of next April after the Republicans have a clear winner and the media has enough time to destroy the candidate.

    The idea that President Obama could lose is laughable.

    The real question for the Obama Administration is what will be the lowest unemployment rate be before President Obama leaves office in 2017 and how big will the national debt be in 2017. I am guess that unemployment will never get below 8% (using honest accounting) and that the national debt will be above $22 trillion dollars.

    Of course when President Obama leaves offce in January 2017, Shaun will still be writing about how bad the Bush Economy is and that the Cuomo Administration will be hamstrung by the Bush economy.

  2. Allen says:

    What is it with republicans? It seems they are getting more and more wacko extreme by the day. I expect a beer hall putsch at any time.

  3. EEllis says:

    has excluded Jews, Muslims and other faiths from prayer-based events.

    Source please, because otherwise I call bullshit

  4. ProfElwood says:

    @EEllis
    That’s the foundation for the entire piece, since I count name-calling as meaningless.

  5. SteveK says:

    The Houston Clergy Council wrote:

    As Houston clergy, we write to express our deep concern over Governor Rick Perry’s proclamation of a day of prayer and fasting at Houston’s Reliant Stadium on August 6th. In our role as faith leaders, we encourage and support prayer, meditation, and spiritual practice. Yet our governor’s religious event gives us pause for a number of reasons:

    We believe in a healthy boundary between church and state. Out of respect for the state, we believe that it should represent all citizens equally and without preference for religious or philosophical tradition. Out of respect for religious communities, we believe that they should foster faithful ways of living without favoring one political party over another. Keeping the church and state separate allows each to thrive and upholds our proud national tradition of empowering citizens to worship freely and vote conscientiously. We are concerned that our governor has crossed the line by organizing and leading a religious event rather than focusing on the people’s business in Austin.

    We also express concern that the day of prayer and fasting at Reliant Stadium is not an inclusive event. As clergy leaders in the nation’s fourth largest city, we take pride in Houston’s vibrant and diverse religious landscape. Our religious communities include Bahais, Buddhists, Christians, Hindus, Jews, Muslims, Sikhs, Unitarian Universalists, and many other faith traditions. Our city is also home to committed agnostics and atheists, with whom we share common cause as fellow Houstonians. Houston has long been known as a “live and let live” city, where all are respected and welcomed. It troubles us that the governor’s prayer event is not open to everyone. In the publicized materials, the governor has made it clear that only Christians of a particular kind are welcome to pray in a certain way. We feel that such an exclusive event does not reflect the rich tapestry of our city.

    Our deepest concern, however, lies in the fact that funding for this event appears to come from the American Family Association, an organization labeled a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The American Family Association and its leadership have a long track record of anti-gay speech and have actively worked to discriminate against the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender community. The American Family Association and its leadership have also been stridently anti-Muslim, going so far as to question the rights of Muslim Americans to freely organize and practice their faith. We believe it is inappropriate for our governor to organize a religious event funded by a group known for its discriminatory stances.

    As religious leaders, we commit to join with all Houstonians in working to make our city a better place. We will lead our communities in prayer, meditation, and spiritual practice. We ask that Rick Perry leave the ministry to us and refocus his energy on the work of governing our state.

    Quit Christian prayer rally, religious leaders urge Texas governor

    August 4, 2011

    NEW YORK (JTA) — Sixteen rabbis are among the more than 50 Houston religious leaders who signed a letter asking Texas Gov. Rick Perry to reconsider participating in a Christian prayer rally.

    Rick Perry, a potential Republican presidential candidate, plans to host “The Response” on Aug. 6 at Houston’s Reliant Stadium. In a commercial featured on the rally’s website, Perry “calls on Americans to pray and fast like Jesus did, and the Israelites did in the book of Job,” as a solution to the “economy in trouble, communities in crisis, and people adrift in a sea of moral relativism.”

    The Response is sponsored by the American Family Association, a Conservative Christian advocacy nonprofit founded in 1977 as the National Federation for Decency. The rally follows the association’s statement of faith, which includes that the Christian Bible is “the inspired, the only infallible, authoritative Word of God.”

    In the letter, the leaders criticize Perry for calling for “a full day of exclusionary prayer. … This religious event is not open to all faiths, and its statement of beliefs does not represent religious diversity.”

    The rabbis who signed are members of the Anti-Defamation League’s Coalition of Mutual Respect, a group of U.S. interfaith leaders who promote education and respect among religions and ethnicities.

    “By his actions,” the letter says, “Governor Perry is expressing an official message of endorsement of one faith over all others, thereby sending an official message of religious exclusion and preference to all Texans who do not share that faith. We believe our religious freedom is threatened when a government official promotes religion, especially one religion over all others.”

  6. SteveK says:

    PS – Here’s a partial list of the signators of the “Huston Clergy Counsel”

    Rev. Dr. Jeremy Rutledge, Minister, Covenant Church, Alliance of Baptists/American Baptist Churches

    Rev. Douglas Anders, Conference Minister, South Central Conference of the United Church of Christ

    Rev. Paul Beedle, Unitarian Universalist

    Rev. Dr. Ginny Brown Daniel, Minister, Plymouth United Church, UCC

    Rev. Beth Ellen Cooper-Davis, Minister, Northwoods Unitarian Universalist Church

    Rev. Michael Diaz, Director of Connections, Resurrection Metropolitan Community Church
    Rev. Dr. Millard Eiland, Alliance of Baptists

    Rev. Pat Farnan, Resurrection Metropolitan Community Church

    Rev. Lura Groen, Pastor, Grace Evangelical Lutheran Church

    Rev. Teddy Hardy, Minister, St. John United Church of Christ

    Rev. Lori Keaton, United Church of Christ

    Rev. Harry Knox, Senior Pastor, Resurrection Metropolitan Community Church

    Rev. Janice Ladd, Executive Pastor, Resurrection Metropolitan Community Church

    Rev. Dr. Becky Edmiston-Lange, Co-Minister, Emerson Unitarian Universalist Church

    Rev. Mark Edmiston-Lange, Co-Minister, Emerson Unitarian Universalist Church

    Rev. Dr. Margie Latham, Minister of Administration, Covenant Church, Alliance of Baptists/American Baptist Churches

    Rev. Mona Lopez, Volunteer Staff Clergy, Resurrection Metropolitan Community Church

    Rev. Laura Mayo, Minister, Covenant Church, Alliance of Baptists/American Baptist Churches

    Rev. Dr. Daniel O’Connell, Senior Minister, First Unitarian Universalist Church

    Rev. David Pantermuehl, Grace United Church of Christ

    Rev. Adam Robinson, Assistant Minister, First Unitarian Universalist Church

    Rev. Ken Richter, Senior Minister, First Congregational Church, UCC

    Rev. Bill Royster, United Church of Christ

    Rev. Sam Schaal, Transition Minister, Bay Area Unitarian Universalist Church

    Rev. Robert Tucker, Executive Director, Foundation for Contemporary Theology

    Rev. Ernie Turney, Pastor, Bering United Methodist Church

    Rev. Bonnie Vegiard, Unitarian Universalist

  7. JSpencer says:

    The only thing worse than an extreme conservative (meaning present day “conservative” – not the endangered traditional species) in the White House would be an extreme conservative fundamentalist. What’s the matter, isn’t the country moving backwards fast enough??

  8. ProfElwood says:

    There’s a big difference between not including, and excluding. There are several types of single-group events, but they don’t exclude people from attending.

  9. TheMagicalSkyFather says:

    Of course if I dont invite you to my birthday party I can just note I didnt include you but that does not mean that you will not feel excluded.

  10. Absalon says:

    Yes, because the worst part about a PRAYER EVENT to BRING RAIN is that ONLY SOME MANIACS are invited.

    Whhhyyyyy won’t they secede already?!

  11. ProfElwood says:

    You’re comparing a public event to a private event. Private events require individual invitations. Public events allow anyone who feels like showing up.

  12. TheMagicalSkyFather says:

    Prof-True but those “invited” or that have similar members or members of their community “invited” feel welcome and those that do not feel excluded and do not go since they feel that way. Again we are really parsing words here to get to the same point. If he would have invited or asked members of other communities they would have come and their communities would have felt welcome. By not doing so they felt excluded.

    Feeling excluded does not have to involve being barred at the door. The list of invited, the tone and the language chosen usually does the trick.

    If he wanted it to look more inclusive all he had to do was to send some invites. If they were ignored the fact that he tried would have been enough of a firewall between him and these claims. Of course he chose not to do that.

  13. ProfElwood says:

    It sounds like they wanted a more faiths represented in the speakers, not the audience.

  14. chlai88 says:

    Perry will make Bush look like a Democrat.

  15. JSpencer says:

    Might as well cut to the chase chlai: Republicans of today make republicans of yesterday look like democrats. Democrats of yesterday make democrats of today look like republicans.

  16. EEllis says:

    Perry is not considered ultra conservative as Gov. Honestly it’s politics on both sides. He wants to be seen as such to get the nomination and others push it to try and make him less electable in the general election. Again weak reporting stating claims as “facts” without showing any basis and making other claims that are just false. It’s shallow and sad.

  17. DLS says:

    NOTE: the fun stuff has started — Iowa Electronic Markets.

    See bottom of posting.

    * * *

    Don’t forget, though, that even mildly conservative and even centrist or moderate people often have been called “far right” by the far Left.

    Perry is appealing to the social and religious conservatives that are a coherent portion of Republican voters and conservatives in this country. He might beat Romney, who really is uninspiring, for the nomination (after which he’ll reveal or present other parts of him intended to appeal to other voters), or be selected as VP by Romney in order to ensure social and religious conservatives will turn out in large numbers in 2012.

    (I still currently believe Obama will win.)

    * * *

    Iowa Electronic Markets, the really fun stuff with election speculation, has its 2012 markets going now, starting with the 2012 Presidential Election and 2012 Congressional Election markets. Graphs of Presidential Election data are available now.

    Presidential: Vote Share, Winner-Take-All

    http://tippie.uiowa.edu/iem/markets/data_pres12.html

    Expect Presidential Nomination Markets to start sometime soon in addition to seeing data soon for the Congressional election markets (partisan composition of Congress, House, Senate). (Price histories for these Congressional markets are available.)

  18. ShannonLeee says:

    Yes, this is what America needs… another governor from Texas! He better wait until 2016. America still hasn’t gotten over Bush.

    Of course, Jeb will clean his clock in 2016, so maybe now is better than later?

  19. SteveK says:

    Again weak reporting stating claims as “facts” without showing any basis and making other claims that are just false. It’s shallow and sad.

    What’s “shallow and sad” is when some anonymous political hack thinks that he knows more about religious motives in the Huston area than the Huston Clergy Council. “Shallow and sad” and quite telling.

  20. DORIAN DE WIND, Military Affairs Columnist says:

    chlai88 says:

    “Perry will make Bush look like a Democrat.”

    Perhaps, more appropriately, Perry will make Bush look like a heathen.

  21. DLS says:

    Perry could do better — adopt the John Brown look holding a bible.

    (holding a gun in the other hand, too)

    http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/johnbrown/tragicprelude.jpg

  22. JSpencer says:

    Hah! Good one. (whoops, comment too short)

  23. EEllis says:

    What’s “shallow and sad” is when some anonymous political hack thinks that he knows more about religious motives in the Huston area than the Huston Clergy Council. “Shallow and sad” and quite telling

    first Houston, it’s spelled Houston. Second I live there. What I do know is that this letter is not about other faiths but rather homosexuality and the AFA’s work against that lifestyle. Now I can support and except that effort but that is what this is about not “inclusiveness” of other faiths. The Houston Clergy Council is a construct to disguise the LGBT source of the protest. While I quite understand their opposition to the AFA I do think the whole Houston Clergy Council thing is misleading and just add to the uncivil nature of the current political precess. Now as a direct response you have totally taken my words out of context and used them in a way that was never meant. The quote

    Again weak reporting stating claims as “facts” without showing any basis and making other claims that are just false. It’s shallow and sad.

    was in reference to th OP making statements with no backing. It was a hate screed portrayed and giving info. Fine Shaun is free to do so and I’m free to state my feelings on his activities also. I at no time stated or in any way responded to the “Houston Clergy Council” because it is a complex issue that really has little to do with Perry or the bigger religious tolerance issues and I didn’t want to spend the time here getting into it.

    But mouthing off about crap you clipped off the Internet when I’m here and do know whats going on will just make you look stupid and partisan, which is really what this is about. The Gov went to a modern tent revival. Big deal.

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